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Does anyone know what the word "ZONBU" means or how it was invented? Dhollm 01:11, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

1kWh introduces in the atmosphere 1.35 pounds of CO2 on average in the US

Does this mean 1.35 lb CO2 per hour, or 1.35 lb CO2 per year, or 1.35 lb CO2 per newton-frog-meter?

I guess it means per kWh (that is, drawing one kilowatt for one hour). Whether it is relevant/appropriate here I'm not sure. -- samj inout 04:52, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Zonbu means nothing in particular. It was a 5-letter available domain name :)

It's 1.35 lb CO2 per kWh... a kWh is a measure of energy, not power. You can consume this amount of energy in any amount of time.

Aymeric (Zonbu employee) 76.233.237.29 18:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


Hardware manufacturer/seller[edit]

Try to imagine a company, which sells a special type of minicomputer, and this company adds its own customized operating system and additional services (like on-line storage) to it. Also imagine, that it is known by many people, that those minicomputers can be bought without these services (without operating system) from a different company (in fact, the former company obtains those minipc's from the latter). So, should Wikipedia article on the former company/product keep the latter (original) company/product in secret, or is it OK to have a link to the hardware manufacturer in references ? (For clarity, look at Zonbu article editing history) Mykhal 15:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

This information should go in the article. We're not talking about a component, we're talking about the entire device. It'd be like selling a Ford as a Zonbu because you offer a warranty, which is to say BS. -- samj inout 04:53, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
aside from Zonbu, where can i buy this computer by DMP Electronics today?




I believe that Wikipedia should never hide any information. Therefore, the original manufacturer of Zonbu hardware (DMP Electronics from Taiwan: http://compactpc.com.tw/ebox-4854.htm ) must be *distinctly* informed in the history, introduction and links part. It should be well clear that Zonbu only adds the remote storage service, support and a Gentoo Linux instalation to the original bare ebox-4854 hardware. I thought it was an absurd when someone at IP 76.233.237.30 (probably someone belonging to Zonbu Inc. and thinking that Wikipedia is just a stand to show off commercial products for free) just whitewashed the text I added recently explaining the origin of the Zonbu hardware, which is a not-trivial piece of information, without providing any plausible justification for that http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zonbu&diff=151041647&oldid=150123889) http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=76.233.237.30-255&ip2=&ip3=&ip4=

I also think that this page is too commercial, with lots of obvious commercial expressions emphasizing the goodness of Zonbu, without citing the shortcomings of hardware, limitations of processor/storage, processing, security, critics, comparisons with similar devices. In other words, this article is still very biased towards advertising and selling Zonbu as a commercial product, which should not occur according to Wikipedia content guidelines (Advertisements masquerading as articles - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Spam)

e.g.

'the creator of WAP' -> this is only marketing, it's not related to zonbu

'affordable','greener','unlimited support','free device replacement',...

others expressions over all the text.

The article should be reformulated using a neutral point of view (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view), and never selectively hiding any information as 76.233.237.30 did. Therefore, I added the POV_check tag to it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:POV_check)

A6m 17:49, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

aside from Zonbu, where can i buy this computer by DMP Electronics today? thanks.

Hi, I'm an employee at Zonbu and have been asked to improve this page to reflect what Zonbu is, and what Zonbu isn't, fairly. I know about Wikipedia and I don't intend to do whitewashing like some people did before me... :'(

On one hand I have a good knowledge of Zonbu, on the other hand it's difficult for me to be truly neutral. Let's work constructively to improve this article.

It's about Zonbu, and Zonbu is a software company, not a hardware company. There's no reason to hide that we outsource our hardware, but I don't understand the added value of mentioning this fact before speaking of Zonbu itself, and of mentionning it in every section of the article.

A6m, you have added negative reviews in the links sections. But there's not a single positive review there! Actually, you have selected the two most negative reviews on the net! My sense of neutrality is to reflect the average opinion of reviewers about Zonbu - for example by googling and selecting the N first results.

I will remove the content that is closer to advertisement than information, and also the NPOV warnings. I hope this will make the article better.

Aymeric.

76.233.237.29 17:54, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

$99 not[edit]

The article does not mention "cheap". This "feature" is a key potential attraction. The product is touted as "$99". This is why the product gets media coverage. This is what makes this product "notable". But this is false advertising. This product will never be available so cheap. The $99 does not just require a commitment to paying an additional over $10/month for a year or two -- it requires pre-paying that total amount. So, this product always costs well over $200, as much as all kinds of other cheap "real" computers. So, the only real potential attractions of this product are: low-power, small, low-maintenance. But it is not so low-cost, sadly. -69.87.204.169 23:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, that is the information I could not find on either the zonbu site or the this wiki page, please premote this imformation to the main page. 131.107.0.73 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 16:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. This is deceptive and would land said company in hot water in most of the civilised world if it were true. -- samj inout 04:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Zonbu Laptop[edit]

Should the Zonbu laptop be included here? There is a link at the bottom, but it seems that Zonbu's laptop should also have tech specifications listed, not just the SFF pc. CompIsMyRx (talk) 16:48, 14 December 2007 (UTC)