Talk:Zuni people

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Gaps[edit]

Theres sort of a big gap there- makes it looks like the article ends. I suppose it has to do with one of the images (as it doesnt exist in the edit window). Any ideas? ~ User:Urukagina

There also seems to be a general gap in information. Maybe a history of the Zunis would be beneficial?

Gutenberg text with illustrations[edit]

Perhaps worth adding some text and pictures from this Project Gutenberg text: The Religious Life of the Zuni Child.--Eloquence* 19:52, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Zuni vs. Zuñi[edit]

By all outward appearances, Zuñi is the correct spelling. Since there are no technical impediments to using the correct spelling for the article title, why is Zuñi instead a redirect here? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Matt Gies 19:11, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree.--BMF81 17:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
The name and spelling of Zuñi with the tilde was given to us by the Spanish conquistadores in the 16th century. It is not known how they derived this name. Zuni without the tilde is the English spelling.

Ewato 20:39, 16 October 2007 (UTC)ewato

Zuni fetishes[edit]

Is there any info on the Zuni fetishes? If there isn't then I'll have to put up what I have to offer. I have a good bit of zuni fetish info that I can add if there isn't any place that already has it.Mattkenn3 22:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

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Mention of Japanese influence hypothesis[edit]

I think this is warranted. The evidence seems quite convincing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.48.33.133 (talk) 05:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the whole reason I came to this page was to learn more about this theory! Why isn't it mentioned!? I had to search the history to find this, "Nancy Yaw Davis, in the Zuni Enigma, and Gavin Menzies, have suggested that the Zuni share some affinities with the Japanese people, due in part to genetic, linguistic and cultural similarities." How on earth is this not significant!? It's published material by experts!!!71.228.253.106 (talk) 23:48, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
That Zunis are the descendants of mid-14th century Japanese pilgrims, as put forth by Davis in her book, is an unsubstantiated, fringe theory that has been refuted by Zuni people. Check out Wikipedia:Fringe theories. -Uyvsdi (talk) 19:12, 21 April 2012 (UTC)Uyvsdi
Having not read the book and being aware of much of the popularity of fringe archeology I am aware of the worries. However, people come to wikipedia for more information. Perhaps there should be a page on the fringe theory? Or mention that the Zuni's are subjects of a relatively popular fringe theory? It would be nice to get links to the said Zuni debunking too, as an Asia specialist myself it would be an interesting read. --Shadowy Sorcerer (talk) 19:23, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
How about adding documented history of the Zuni to the article instead? It's not like the article is particularly well-written or complete as it is. -Uyvsdi (talk)Uyvsdi
Heh. That probably should be a higher priority, not that I am in anyway qualified to do it. Though I would be glad to help.--Shadowy Sorcerer (talk) 21:35, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh brother, I just discovered where this sudden interest in this theory is coming from. Cracked.com mentioned it, then someone posted it to Reddit. -Uyvsdi (talk) 21:42, 21 April 2012 (UTC)Uyvsdi

Unreferenced books moves from talk page[edit]

If any of these can be cited, I'm moving them here.

  • Baxter, Sylvestor, Frank H. Cushing, My Adventurers in Zuni: Including Father of The Pueblos & An Aboriginal Pilgrimage, Filter Press, LLC, 1999, paperback, 1999, 79 pages, ISBN 0-86541-045-3
  • Bunzel, Ruth L. "Zuni Katcinas: An Analytic Study". (1932d). Forty-Seventh Annual Report of the Bureau of American Ethnology. Pp. 836–1086. Washington, D.C.: Government Printing Office, 1932. Reprint, Zuni Katcinas: 47th Annual Report. Albuquerque: Rio Grande Classics, 1984.
  • Cushing, Frank Hamilton. My Adventures in Zuni, Pamphlet, ISBN 1-121-39551-1
  • Cushing, Frank Hamilton, Barton Wright, The mythic world of the Zuni, University of New Mexico Press, 1992, hardcover, ISBN 0-8263-1036-2
  • Cushing, Frank Hamilton. Outlines of Zuni Creation Myths, AMS Press, Reprint edition (June 1, 1996), hardcover, 121 pages, ISBN 0-404-11834-8
  • Cushing, Frank Hamilton. Zuni Coyote Tales, University of Arizona Press, 1998, paperback, 104 pages, ISBN 0-8165-1892-0
  • Cushing, Frank Hamilton. Zuni Fetishes, pamphlet, ISBN 1-199-17971-X and ISBN 1-122-26704-5
  • Cushing, Frank Hamilton. designed by K. C. DenDooven, photographed by Bruce Hucko, Annotations by Mark Bahti, Zuni Fetishes, KC Publications, 1999, paperback, 48 pages, ISBN 0-88714-144-7
  • Cushing, Frank Hamilton. Zuni Fetishes Facsimile, pamphlet, ISBN 1-125-28500-1
  • Cushing, Frank Hamilton. Zuni Folk Tales, hardcover, ISBN 1-125-91410-6 (expensive if you search by ISBN, try ABE for older used copies without ISBN)
  • Cushing, Frank Hamilton. Zuni Folk Tales, University of Arizona Press, 1999, trade paperback, ISBN 0-8165-0986-7 (reasonably priced)
  • Cushing, Frank Hamilton. Zuni Breadstuff (Indian Notes and Monographs, V. 8.), AMS Press, 1975, hardcover, 673 pages, ISBN 0-404-11835-6
  • Ferguson, T. J. and Hart, E. R., eds., 1995. A Zuni Atlas (Norman: University of Oklahoma Press).
  • M. Conrad Hyers The Spirituality of Comedy: comic heroism in a tragic world 1996, Transaction Publishers ISBN 1-56000-218-2
  • Green Jesse, Sharon Weiner Green and Frank Hamilton Cushing, Cushing at Zuni: The Correspondence and Journals of Frank Hamilton Cushing, 1879–1884, University of New Mexico Press, 1990, hardcover ISBN 0-8263-1172-5
  • Elsie Clews Parsons and Ralph L. Beals, "The Sacred Clowns of the Pueblo and Mayo-Yaqui Indians," American Anthropologist, vol. 36 (October–December 1934), p. 493
  • Tedlock, Dennis, tr. Finding the Center: Narrative Poetry of the Zuni Indians. From performances in the Zuni by Andrew Peynetsa and Walter Sanchez. Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press, 1972.
  • Young, M. Jane. Signs from the Ancestors: Zuni Cultural Symbolism and Perceptions in Rock Art. Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press, 1988.
  • Bunzel, Ruth L. (1929). The Pueblo potter: A study of creative imagination in primitive art. New York: Dover. ISBN 0-486-22875-4
  • Hieb, Louis A. (1984). Meaning and mismeaning: Toward an understanding of the ritual clowns. In A. Ortiz (Ed.), New perspectives on the Pueblos (pp. 163–195). Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press. (Original work published 1972). ISBN 0-8263-0387-0.

-Uyvsdi (talk) 21:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi