Template:Did you know nominations/Derek Minor

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The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 22:30, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Derek Minor[edit]

  • ... that Derek Minor was featured in the video game Altered Pro, a take on Sega's Altered Beast, to promote his third studio album?

Created by 3family6 (talk). Self nom at 04:05, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

  • On 1a, article is considered as an expanded unreferenced BLP; I do note that if I take the revision before Jan 11 to Jan 15 [1] the prose only goes from 7.7k to 12k, but if I consider from just before Jan 11 to Jan 15 [2] it's 5.5k to 12k, which meets the double requirement. The expansion + sourcing and timing is close enough that this is an IAR area allowance for inclusion.
  • Size is fine; article appears to fit within policy (spotcheck of sources agree with quoted statements except as noted below), inline cites are used, writing appears unbiased). BLP marked appropriately.
  • On the hook, I've a few problems with it. Clearly Altered Pro was released in junction prior to the album, no question on that, but I can't find anything in the two sources about the game - or a web search myself - that links Minor to actually being involved in the game's development (maybe I'm missing it). This is claimed in the lead, but the sources in the body don't support this. Further, as written the hook seems to suggest Minor did all the work, and I doubt this is the case from my read. If there is a specific source that mentions Minor's specific involvement with the game, this needs to be added to the article. On a less critical point, it would be help and within size to mention the game's name and as inspired by Altered Beast. (eg "... that Derek Minor helped to create Altered Pro, a take on Altered Beast, to promote his third studio album?", as a suggestion.) But focus on making sure you have sources to support the statement in both the article and hook first before touching up the hook.
  • QPQ is satisfied, while no image is provided.
Symbol question.svg - Need to get proper sourcing fixed out for the hook. --MASEM (t) 07:00, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
  • It appears that I misinterperted the sources. I have removed the statements that said Johson actually created the game. I'm not sure what you are referring to about expansion. The article did not enter mainspace until January 15, which would be considered its creation date. But it doesn't matter. Any other problems?--¿3family6 contribs 11:50, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
  • My bad on the date - the logs don't immediately show the page move unless I search for your page moves (that seems like a new change). It's obviously fine this way, but I was noting that with the nom dated Jan 18, the "5 days prior" period would technically start the 13th. Irregardless that's a moot point - fundamental part of criteria #1 is met in either case.
  • The hook, most importantly the accuracy of the statement both in the hook and article, is better now. --MASEM (t) 14:46, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Should be ready to go. --MASEM (t) 14:46, 6 February 2013 (UTC)