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The result was: promoted by Harrias talk 11:18, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Dobrilovina Monastery[edit]

Dobrilovina Monastery

  • ... that Dobrilovina (pictured) was the centre of the spiritual and political life and aspirations for freedom in the wide area of Potarje?

Created by Zoupan (talk). Self nominated at 09:13, 31 October 2013 (UTC).

  • Length and date verified. Assuming good faith on hook reference as I was unable to access the full page on Google Books. Toдor Boжinov 19:49, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Assuming AGF that the hook reference is accurate, then the hook is failing to credit an exact translation that is quoted in the article, which is a copyvio. Also, from context, I would have expected that the monastery, not the hamlet of Dobrilovina, was the center. This needs to be clarified; I think, under the circumstances, the quote in its original language needs to be given in the citation; if the context (monastery or hamlet) is made clear by immediately nearby words, please include it as well. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:03, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
  • fixed.--Zoupan 10:05, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
  • The hook is still unchanged, and the quote remains in the article, so you have dealt with neither of the hook issues I raised. Indeed, your improvements to the article have made it clear that it was the monastery, not the hamlet, that was the "centre". I've struck the original hook due to the continuing copyvio; you can create an ALT with as much you want to quote, though I think "in the wide area of Potarje" is a bit stilted; is there a way to better describe the area that would still be sourced? BlueMoonset (talk) 18:33, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
  • ... that Dobrilovina (pictured) was the centre of the spiritual and political life and aspirations for freedom in the Tara river region? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoupan (talkcontribs) 10:08, 6 November 2013‎
  • It seems I wasn't sufficiently clear. You may not include the "centre of the spiritual" phrase in any hook unless it is quoted: this is a direct quote in the article, and as such it must also be quoted here or it is a copyvio. Also, your continuing to pipe "Dobrilovina Monastery" to "Dobrilovina" is inaccurate; if you wish to say something is the centre, and the article is accurate as is, it must be the monastery. Please try again. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:49, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
  • ... that the Dobrilovina Monastery (pictured) was "the centre of the spiritual and political life and aspirations for freedom" in the Tara river region?--Zoupan 01:52, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Latest hook needs reviewing; make sure "Tara river region" clause has inline source support. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:27, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Article appears to be ok if I AGF on the sources. I think the statement from the article The monastery is located on the left Tara river banks, in a region known as Potarje, at the beginning of the Tara River Canyon is sufficient to back up the assertion about the Tara river region and it is directly cited to a source that I can't confirm 100% because I know very little Serbian but again I'm AGF. Should be good to go. Thingg 00:15, 8 December 2013 (UTC)