Template:Did you know nominations/Seafood pizza

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:26, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Seafood pizza[edit]

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~~... that the world's most expensive pizza listed by Guinness World Records is a seafood pizza that costs CAD $450?~~

Reviewed: Great Northern Highway

Created by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self nominated at 02:23, 3 September 2014 (UTC).

Article is new and long enough. QPQ done. Hook is properly formatted, well sourced with inline citation. But there is citation overkill. Many citations are repeated all over the sentence, ex. in the 2nd line of lead. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 08:50, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

The image caption is marvellous. Please, please, use the image and caption when it is promoted. Belle (talk) 11:31, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the citations: it's the only way most accurately verify content, because the sources don't all list the various ingredients that may be used. If the citations were moved to the end of each sentence, then someone would likely tag with the "not in citation given" template. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 19:59, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

I made a small edit which I believe will clear up the citation problem in the lead. Yoninah (talk) 01:03, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: I checked some of the other pizza articles and non of those had such aggressive citations. Can you cite the incidences where someone has tagged a ingredient in a food article for "not in citation given" template, while that ingredient is present in the citation given at the end of sentence. For me, citation after every word is too distracting. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 02:58, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

I've copy edited the article, placing the citations at the end of the sentence. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:33, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Here is a more recent source, which claims a more expensive $750 pizza by the same restaurant. --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 04:52, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

some more claims --Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 05:11, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Your conversion in the first post directly above (Here) is incorrect. The source states the cost of £275, which presently converts to Canadian dollars as $487.99 using Google. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:12, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Also, the hook cites the Guinness World Records official recognition, which your second link does not include anywhere in the article. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:13, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

The first link, after C6 (£275, $487.99) mention C7 (£425) pizza (after the pictures). I know the pizzas in 2nd link doesn't mention Guinness World Records. I am providing links for you to consider. I think it can be ignored (2nd). I am bit concerned as the hook is not supported by a direct citation from Guinness World Records officials (they may not have updated their website). After seeing this hook, I immediately went to Guinness website to check the claim, and may be other readers will also do the same. Perhaps adding a footnote into the article will be useful.--Vigyani_talk^{ਯੋਗਦਾਨ} 05:40, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Updated – Added to the article: "As of September 2014, Guinness World Records still lists the Gordon Ramsay pizza on their website."<ref>"Most Expensive pizza". Guinness World Records. Retrieved 4 September 2014.</ref> NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:23, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

I disagree with @Vigyani:'s complaint about the citations, and I think they should be restored. Please see Shavuot#Dairy foods, where each ingredient has its own citation. Putting all the cites at the end of the sentence is not helpful for someone checking up on which source goes with which. Yoninah (talk) 09:55, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

It is more precise to have separate citations. However, consecutive citations to the same source are redundant and distracting. My preference would be to restore individual citations, but only one per source, which means that mussells and shrimp should be moved next to each other. Also is "mussells" a correct regional spelling? In the U.S., it's spelled "mussels". MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:06, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Updated - After careful consideration, I agree with the specific citations, which is more accurate. Also, note another of my recent DYK nominations that was recently promoted which has the same citation style, French onion dip. There were no objections to the citation style at the discussion for that one. I've restored the citation style at the Seafood pizza article and copy edited per the suggestions directly above. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 19:37, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

I think that looks much better than the original. I've taken the liberty of removing six more instances of redundant consecutive citations throughout the article. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:06, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

ALT1 below (which I prefer over the original above). NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 19:49, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the world's most expensive pizza listed by Guinness World Records is a seafood pizza (different example pictured) that costs CAD $450?

Everything looks good now. New enough, long enough, well-referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Hook ref verified and cited inline. QPQ done. Image is public domain. I don't see any difference between the original and alt hook other than "pictured", but ALT1 is good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:47, 6 September 2014 (UTC)