Template talk:Cite book

Citing footnotes

Do you think it would be possible to add a footnote field into this template? I've just come across a book where the information I want is in the footnote of a page and there is no way to direct readers to the specific footnote. A parameter in this template would allow for this. A similar thing could be done with endnotes, too. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 19:01, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

How about |at=p. 123, footnote 4 --Redrose64 (talk) 19:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Oh of course - that'd work. Thanks. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 19:46, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I think you'll find |page=123 (footnote 4) also works fine. Stephen Kirrage ^{talk - contribs} 15:13, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Translator

What is a good way to identify the translator of a work? I wonder why there is no corresponding parameter? Lfstevens (talk) 15:37, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

• See the documentation for the use of |others=. See also Template talk:Citation/core#Translators (again). ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 17:17, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Page range error

Recently (last 2 days) when doing a page range in cite book I have been getting this rubbish appearing instead of hyphen: "–" which on my browser is an "a" with ^ on it and unrenderable unicode 0080 0093 in little boxes. Does anyone know where this came from and can fix it? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:40, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Example please. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 09:05, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps I should be apologizing, it may not be in cite book, but in the citation tool that I am using that generated the cite template. see example: author, first. the title. pp. 1–2. 

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:44, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Not a template issue, as those characters are actually there. What tool are you using? ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:00, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

When I edit there s a row of buttons above the edit box starting with B for bold and ending with cite which appears after ref. When I click "cite" it inserts a row of buttons web, news, book, journal .... cancel. When one of these is clicked a form opens that inserts a template into the textarea. I have edit toolbar enabled, but enhanced editing toolbar disabled, and use Monobook skin. A relevant gadget may be "Enable dialogs for inserting links, tables and more" Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:13, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

You are using RefToolbar 1.0. A simple test seems OK with FF8/Win7: author, first. the title. pp. 1–2. 

How are you entering the page range? How do you type the dash? What if you copy this and paste it into the Page number(s) field: 1–2

What browser and OS are you using?

---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:23, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

The button is probably from this gadget: Wikipedia:RefToolbar, I think you are right. I just type "-" hyphen character as that is what is on my keyboard. I am using Windows 7, Firefox 8 same as you!. Testing the different page range here: . pp. 1–2.  (that seems to look OK.) cf . pp. 1–2.  with the hyphen. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:30, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

OK! The standard hyphen is the problem. You should be using an ndash using Alt+0150, but the hyphen should not bork like that. See MOS:NDASH. This only occurs in the Cite book dialog, the other tempates are OK. Reporting at Wikipedia talk:RefToolbar 1.0. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:39, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Thankyou! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:04, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Tracked the problem and proposed a fix. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 16:17, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Boldfacing of volume is inappropriate

FYI: Pointer to relevant discussion on another talk page.

It just doesn't make sense for books (or other non-periodicals) and needs to be fixed in {{Citation/core}}. I've raised the issue at Template talk:Citation/core#Boldfacing of volume is inappropriate for non-periodicals, with suggested code. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 20:27, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Laysource

This template supports laysummary and laydate; any issues with adding laysource? ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 15:05, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Is that intended to be recursive—i.e. with a place for another citation template? After all, presumably the lay summary is also citable somehow. (Similar in principle to when you want to indicate that you are quoting from X, who is quoting Y—but you don't have Y available to verify directly.) No objections—just wondering. TheFeds 05:56, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Y Done ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 08:46, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

deadurl parameter

Hi! Could we please add the |deadurl= field to this citation template per Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Dead url parameter for citations.

The edit needs to be like this: [1].

You can see all the testcases at User:H3llkn0wz/Sandbox3. This basically does this:

{{cite book | last=Bloggs | first=Joe | authorlink=Joe Bloggs | year=1974 | title=Book of Bloggs | edition=1st | url=http://en.wikipedia.org/ | accessdate=2006-02-17 | archiveurl=http://wikiarchive.com/en.wikipedia.org | archivedate=May 2011 }}

Bloggs, Joe (1974). Book of Bloggs (1st ed.). Archived from the original on May 2011. http://wikiarchive.com/en.wikipedia.org. Retrieved 2006-02-17. 

to

{{cite book | last=Bloggs | first=Joe | authorlink=Joe Bloggs | year=1974 | title=Book of Bloggs | edition=1st | url=http://en.wikipedia.org/ | accessdate=2006-02-17 | archiveurl=http://wikiarchive.com/en.wikipedia.org | archivedate=May 2011 | deadurl=no }}

Bloggs, Joe (1974). Book of Bloggs (1st ed.). Archived from the original on May 2011. http://en.wikipedia.org/. Retrieved 2006-02-17. 

—  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:48, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Y Done ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 12:21, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

WP:BOOKLINKS

Would it be possible to add the guide link for "books links" to the url parameter line. Moxy (talk) 07:56, 16 January 2012 (UTC) url: URL of an online location where the text of the publication can be found. Cannot be used if title is wikilinked. If applicable, the link may point to the specific page(s) referenced. Do not link to any commercial booksellers (such as Amazon.com) (See WP:BOOKLINKS)

Documentation pages are not protected. The URL section uses a subtemplate from {{csdoc}}. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 08:50, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Parameter asin=: URL fails to default to amazon.com

In Richmond Park Academy I have cited some books published during the 1940's and 1950's. The only reference to these I can find is on Amazon so I included an 'asin=' element as referred to under 'Several other parameters' in the documentation for this template. The URL generated by this, however, lacks a 'com' top level domain and therefore fails to work. Thus asin=B0019X06I8 generates the URL http://www.amazon/dp/B0019X06I8 rather than the desired http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0019X06I8 - I have worked around this by using id={{ASIN|B0019X06I8}} which works as documented. -- KenBailey (talk) 15:16, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

There was a recent change in core. Let me look at this. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 15:27, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Fixed ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 15:41, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks :) -- KenBailey (talk) 22:17, 22 January 2012 (UTC)