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I dislike the heading in this as "all-rounders" is said twice. Also "done" is a bit gramatically lazy. Instead of

Iantalk 00:37, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I changed it to a variant of what you suggested:
Stephen Turner (Talk) 10:06, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Tests played[edit]

Glancing at the test played figure to acheive the double for Imran it just looked wrong to me. A bit of digging around on cricinfo suggests he passed the milestone in his 50th test not his 75th. Kapil Dev oddly enough also looks like he passed the milestone in his 50th test. Ian Botham did it in 42, not the 55 listed. Is there a source for the figures in the table as it stands or is everyone happy to go with figures from Cricinfo? I'll change them this weekend if there are no objections. --LiamE 10:35, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

The "Career milestones" in the Cricinfo StatsGuru is useful — I've never played with that before. I checked Imran and Botham, and they both reached 3000 runs in the match listed on the template. I wonder if the original author, Hamedog, originally planned to use 3000/200 or 3000/250 and then changed the inclusion criteria without changing the number of matches? I bet that's what happened. Good catch, by the way. Of course, feel free to go ahead and fix it. Stephen Turner (Talk) 10:45, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Those 3 changed as per cricinfo. I also got Benaud and Vaas's figures from there. I'll check the others when I get a moment. --LiamE 10:50, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, but I think I mistyped 3000 and put 2000! --HamedogTalk|@ 06:38, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Are you suggesting we should go back to 3000? The template is becoming rather long. Stephen Turner (Talk) 06:43, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
It was a typo. BTW i got my information from here: [1]

--HamedogTalk|@ 06:44, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Players getting close[edit]

Several players are getting close to joining the club. Players to keep an eye on are Kallis, Flintoff, Vettori Kumble and Streak. --LiamE 16:57, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Change the criteria?[edit]

The list is getting pretty long now - shall we change it to the 3000/200 criteria as originally intended? To my mind that is the better test of an all-rounder anyway. --LiamE 17:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I would agree with this change. Stephen Turner (Talk) 19:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Request for 3000/300 template[edit]

There was a request for a 3000/300 all-rounder template in addition to this template. I would think that anyone listed on the 3000/300 template should not be listed on the 2000/200 template (or 3000/200 if you switch the criteria to that as some requested but doesn't seem to have happened). This would reduce the size of the 2000/200 template. I could create the 3000/300 template copying the format of the 2000/200 but I would need the data for such a template. If everyone is fine with these ideas, then as soon as I have the data I can proceed. Thanks. --MECUtalk 17:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I disagree with this suggestion. I think there should be only one template. We just need to decide where the proper boundary is. Stephen Turner (Talk) 18:23, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Stephen Turner; more than one template would muddle things. I think it may be time we push harder for changing the criteria to 3000/200 that has been previously mentioned and seems to have substantial support. GringoInChile 07:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I'd certainly support a move to the originally intended 3000/200 as a single template. 3000/300 is too restrictive on batting all-rounders (Sobers wouldn't even make it!) and would have a VERY strong modern bias as its not long ago that the first bowler passed the 300 milestone. 3000/200 to my mind keeps all the big all-rounders with long test careers whilst weeding out quite a few bowlers that scored a few runs. --LiamE 10:08, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

As a result of the TfD at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2008 November 30, this template is to be merged. Here is the raw wiki-text of the template:

From the closing admin, RyanGerbil10(Four more years!) 01:46, 11 December 2008 (UTC)