Template talk:American conflicts
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This is a nice looking template, but shouldn't it be called "Military conflicts of the United States" or "Wars involving the United States" to make the scope more clear. As it stands I thought is was covering all wars in the Americas when I first saw it. Eluchil404 14:24, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
- The list cannot have off-beat terms not in common use (like "Sixty Year War"), and cannot include trivial events. Keep to serious conflicts or this template is highly misleading. Rjensen 05:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- The Vietnam War was an international war rather than an "external conflict" as a number of nations were involved. 126.96.36.199 23:26, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
- Shouldn't these conflicts be referred to by their more useful national, historical, and geographic names rather than US department of defense code names, which almost no one remembers?
I moved the Indian Wars to the external conflicts section, since they are by definition. Besides, I don't really get the difference between "external" and "international".
188.8.131.52 05:52, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
I second this confusion about the difference between "external" and "international" conflicts. Panama is another nation, isn't it? Wasn't that conflict thus international? 184.108.40.206 01:00, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
What about Colombia? the Colombian armed conflict is financed in part by the United States through the billion dollar worth Plan Colombia, should this be included in the template?--F3rn4nd0 (Roger - Out) 02:44, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Alright, either the heading has to be changed to something a bit more conservative than "conflicts involving the U.S.", or this Template is grossly lacking. The following are some omissions that jump to mind...
- Armed conflicts involving the United States (with direct U.S. Armed Forces involvement)
- 1801 First Barbary War.
- 1815 Second Barbary War with Napoleonic France as strategic ally.
- 1903 Panama Canal conflicts, Hay-Herran Treaty.
- 1914 Tampico Affair in revolutionary Mexico.
- 1916 Pancho Villa Expedition.
- 1918 Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War. 
- 1967 Six-Day War (U.S. attacked by Israel in USS Liberty incident).
- 1980 Operation Eagle Claw (Tehran embassy rescue attempt).
- 1981 [first] Gulf of Sidra incident (1981) (U.S. shot down two Libyan Su-22s).
- 1983 Beirut barracks bombing (Multinational Force in Lebanon|MNF).
- 1986 Operation El Dorado Canyon (Libyan Palace Bombing).
- 1989 [second] Gulf of Sidra incident (U.S. shot down two Libyan MiG-23s).
- 1993 Battle of Mogadishu (U.N.).
- 1998 Bombing of Afghanistan and Sudan (August 1998) (aspirin factory bombing).
- 1999 International Force for East Timor (U.N.).
- 1999 Kosovo War (NATO).
- Armed conflicts involving the United States (without direct U.S. Armed Forces involvement)
- 1913 La decena trágica / Henry Lane Wilson.
- 1914-34 US occupation of Haiti.
- 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état.
- 1957 Tibetan resistance (U.S. military aid ).
- 1964 Plan LAZO (CIA military and financial aid to Colombia.
- 1967 Six-Day War (U.S. military involvement disputed).
- 1973 Yom Kippur War (Arab-Israeli War) (military and financial aid).
- 1975 Indonesian invasion of East Timor (U.S. military aid).
- 1979 Soviet war in Afghanistan (Military training and financial aid to Mujahideen).
- 1979 Salvadoran Civil War (Military training and financial aid).
- 1982 Falkland Islands War (material assistance to U.K. but the US accused France of doing the same to Argentina).
- 1982 Israeli-Lebanese War (military and financial aid).
- 1986 Nicaraguan Contras (financial aid to anti-Sandinista campaign, Iran-Contra affair)
- 1994 Haiti (military occupation of Haiti to restore president Jean-Bertrand Aristide planned in his exile in the US).
- 1995 Operation Storm (Croatia, covert military aid to the Bosnian Army).
- 2006 Israeli-Lebanese War (military and financial aid).
A proposal to replace the current American conflicts navbox:
- I think this makes far more sense - External is International by definition. best, Sunil060902 (talk) 12:46, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- my 2 (euro)cents: seems to me that the authors/editors of the template has taken "military" for "land forces" e.g. US Army; indeed in the current list are absent major conflict whose has involved only the US Navy, for example, the two barbary wars and the Tampico Affair culminated in the Veracruz Landing. This, IMHO, of course. Best regards from Italy, dott.Piergiorgio (talk) 16:26, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
I've changed the Mormon War link back to 1838 Mormon War again, because Mormon War is a dab page not an article and it causes problem dablinks to be created - see Wikipedia:Disambiguation_pages_with_links/Maintenance. 1838 Mormon War is the name of the article on the conflict in question. If there's some stylistic reason, perhaps to do with dates in titles, why this name should not appear in the template, please consider replacing it with Missouri Mormon War, which will redirect to the appropriate article, rather than just reverting again to the undisambiguated "Mormon War" link. Thanks. Karenjc 14:57, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Yes, re the 1946 "Battle of Athens" involving the county sheriff's department - if that why not the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral? If it is to include US Military forces, perhaps the state militias (?) but not sheriffs (?) Hugo999 (talk) 01:29, 7 February 2009 (UTC)