Template talk:Anglophone states

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First p0st!

The template should show states with an Anglophone majority, and preferably one over 40%. I've included what I think are anglophone nations although I'm not entirely sure on some of the islands. The three crown dependencies are included as they are not part of the UK, merely dependent on the Crown. I don't know whether to include South Africa, whilst the English presence is undeniable, as far as I know, it's not a majority. I don't know the statistics of either Singapore or HK so I can't include them. +Hexagon1 (t) 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

English isn't the majority language in Suriname according to this site. Could you provide citations for the inclusion of Suriname. Rozth (talk) 17:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I made assumptions with some nations, as I stated above, so why don't you remove it then? +Hexagon1 (t) 12:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, I assumed the template was based on a source and figured it be more polite to request a citation first. I would have removed the country, but I see you already have. Cheers. Rozth (talk) 12:20, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Cool. +Hexagon1 (t) 13:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

RSA

Shouldn't South Africa be included, as it is the language most used by the government, media etc, as well as the most understood. It may not be the main mother tounge language, and according to most sources, the country is part of the Anglosphere. Also, I may be wrong, but couldn't my above description also be appropriate for countries such as Nigeria, Singapore, Hong Kong and the Philippines were English is an official language, and the most widely understood. I believe that this template, should be renamed English speaking countries or Anglosphere, as there is no actual template that lists all countries where English has official status Stevvvv4444 (talk) 21:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure about RSA, as I said above. English is a part of the culture of many countries, but actually walking down a random street and seeing everything in English and everyone speaking English is another thing. +Hexagon1 (t) 05:05, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Citations for all included countries please

Hi, please provide citations for any included countries and not make assumptions which is very misleading and unencyclopedic. --Bardcom (talk) 20:10, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Anglosphere the same as the Anglophone world ??

This template presents the Angloshere in terms which are too linguistically based - ie the Anglosphere seems to be more a matter of socio-cultural values, and politico-legal ideas than language. It does not seem that the Anglosphere is the same thing as the Anglophone world, although there is a lot of overlap. Arcan (talk) 11:10, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Belize

Shouldn't Belize be included? English is the only official language there, although not everyone speaks it well. It's a matter of education and diglossia, in my opinion. --Atitarev (talk) 23:15, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I saw this comment: Don't add Belize : only spoken by a minority. I disagree. A country where the only official language is English should definitely be included, even if many people cannot speak it. --Atitarev (talk) 21:49, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Don't add Jamaica?

According to this book [1], cited at the article English-speaking world, Jamaica is one of the major Anglophone countries. It probably comes down to whether you define their patois as a truly separate language or not, but that author at least identifies almost the entire Jamaican population as English speaking. Fishal (talk) 07:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Whitespace

The whitespace has been removed from the bottom of the template to the Merge box. This was causing an empty whitespace on all the pages that use this template.
 —  .`^) Paine Ellsworthdiss`cuss (^`.  05:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Proposed merge

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result was to merge into Template:English official language clickable map.
 —  .`^) Paine Ellsworthdiss`cuss (^`.  07:29, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

It has been suggested that Template:Anglophone states and Template:English official language clickable map be merged together. For those who would like to see what this might look like... Please see my sandbox version.
 —  .`^) Paine Ellsworthdiss`cuss (^`.  02:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I think this merger is a good idea. Debresser (talk) 00:26, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Agree. However, the map needs to be cleaned up, like Malaysia has EN as an official language, Singapore has it as their main language, etc.

Nicholas.tan (talk) 15:06, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Nicholas.tan, I'm working on that.
 —  .`^) Paine Ellsworthdiss`cuss (^`.  03:23, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

(out). Yes check.svg Done. Malaysia and Singapore have been added to the maps, both the official map and my sandbox version.
 —  .`^) Paine Ellsworthdiss`cuss (^`.  06:29, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Agree. But, the table should show what the light blue countries are as most people would not know what the countries are...Likelife (talk) 16:10, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Likelife, are you saying that the "mouseover", which shows what the countries are, and the fact that one can click on the country and go to its language article or section, are you saying that this isn't enough?
 —  .`^) Paine Ellsworthdiss`cuss (^`.  03:23, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
  • Agree I suppose. Regarding the Anglophone template, perhaps the little note should be changed to say "countries and territories" rather than just "countries", 4 of the 5 European entries are the same country (the only one not part of the United Kingdom is Ireland, the other 4 are the same country). TJ Spyke 14:56, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done. Well, in my sandbox version, anyway. Thank you, TJ Spyke!
 —  .`^) Paine Ellsworthdiss`cuss (^`.  03:23, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

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