Template talk:Australian Honours System

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Purpose of Template[edit]

This template is for awards created within the Australian Honours System. The Order of Wearing Australian Honours and Awards distinguishes between 'awards in the Australian System of Honours and Awards', 'those conferred by the Sovereign in the exercise of the Royal Prerogative', 'those within the Order of St John', 'imperial awards pre-6 Oct 1992' and 'foreign awards'). The Orders of the Garter, Thistle and Merit, the Royal Victorian Order, Coronation and Jubilee Medals are conferred by the Sovereign in the exercise of the Royal Prerogative, not Australian Honours and Awards. Likewise, the Order of St John is not an Australian Order. The article on the Australian Order of Precedence provides adequate coverage for the status and integration of these awards in the Australian context. AusTerrapin (talk) 13:33, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Australian Honours Order of Precedence’[edit]

Suggest that the subtitle ‘Australian Honours Order of Precedence’ be deleted since it bears no resemblance to either the Australian Order of Precedence’ or the 'Australian Order of Wear'. Perhaps the subtitle could be ‘groups of similar awards’ or a pithier sub title.

Several picky points. The Victoria Cross for Australia is not an Australian Gallantry award but stands alone as the Victoria Cross for Australia. The Australian Gallantry Awards are the SG, MG and the Commendation for Gallantry.

Neither the Australia Service Medal 1939-1945 nor the Vietnam Medal are awards of the Australian Honours System. Both were instituted prior to the creation of the Australian Honours System. Anthony Staunton (talk) 10:06, 28 July 2012 (UTC).

Australian Operational Service Medal - Border Protection[edit]

ADF coastguard operations have never been either warlike or non-warlike service and therefore have not attracted medal entitlements. In June 2012, the Australian Operational Service Medal (AOSM) was established with the promise that it would also replace the AASM and ASM but those medals will continue for the moment for current operations. Neither AASM nor ASM have been renamed with the dates 1975-2012. The first of the new AOSM medals is the Australian Operational Service Medal - Border Protection whose long winded title will probably be shortened to AOSM - Border Protection or perhaps Border Protection Medal. Again it does not have a date although eligibility for the medal has been made retrospective to 1997. Anthony Staunton (talk) 14:17, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Proposed Merger[edit]

It has been suggested by User:Pdfpdf that the template - 'Australian Campaign Medals' be merged with this template. I tend to agree with Pdfpdf. However I can see that this template was intended to only show awards specifically brought about through the Australian Honours System. User:Anthony Staunton and User:AusTerrapin, what are your thoughts on the matter? Nford24 (Want to have a chat?) 04:52, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

My reaction is against but I see the advantage of eliminating duplications which is the bane of Wikipedia. The Australian Honours System is more than campaign medals. So if you amalgamated the two templates you would have all Australian Honours System awards but only some British awards. It seems each template is performing different functions. Perhaps the campaign template could be redefined as British and Foreign campaign medals to the ADF. There could be a note where Australia modified Second World War campaign stars, in particular the 1939-45 Star, the Africa Star and the Pacific Star. The ASM 1939-45 should be included with the British awards since it was created as part of the Imperial system in 1949. So for that matter was the Vietnam Medal but I am a realist at the howls of protest. However, no one listened to my mocking of the commemorative AASM 1945-1975 Vietnam clasp created years after Vietnam ended being worn before the Vietnam Medal. I raise these issues now in order to assist the process.Anthony Staunton (talk) 07:09, 23 August 2013 (UTC)