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Placement[edit]

I'm concerned about the placement of this template in a large number of cattle breed articles. Those articles don't appear in the template, and the purpose of the template is navigation between related topics. If the (mostly stub) breed articles aren't high level topics such as beef and veal, then I think it's excessive. In some cases the template is longer than the article itself. Steven Walling 01:20, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Yep. That was me. I couldn't find the guidelines on where to put them. I added them to beef cattle articles because I thought they might be useful to visitors. I'll remove them if you like. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:54, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Since I'm the one who brought it up, I'll do the work of removing it, but I didn't want to without asking first. Steven Walling 03:28, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
I suggest holding on for a while. Others may want to comment. Plus, I can rollback, which is easier. They are little-edited articles, so most can be reverted that way. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:34, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
I guess I should explain my rationale for adding the navboxes. I asked myself the question: "Would a visitor to, say, Luing cattle, prefer to the navbox to be there, or would s/he wish it to not be there?" Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
I agree that's the right question to be asking. I just think that when it comes to that specific of a topic, the answer is probably not. For something like sirloin or beef cattle it's a big enhancement, but something like Luing cattle is not really a central subject in beef. A person showing up at the stub for a particular breed is just as likely to be interested in the geographical region and its culture as in beef overall. Not to mention that many beef breeds, such as the Chianina or Marchigiana, actually began primarily as oxen rather than beef producers. Steven Walling 05:57, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
I thought about it some more, and you're right. It's not doing any harm and might help some readers. You made a good call. Thanks, Steven Walling 18:07, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. I'm still not sure I'm right. I'm only one person. And if you ask my parents, you see that I'm always wrong. But, boy, is it ever rare to read what you've just written. My greatest respect for you. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:29, 10 July 2011 (UTC)