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I added all the names prior to Schmelz, by most all references, the team began, at the very least, in 1882 when the Reds joined the American Association, begining with Snyder as manager. Now, the prior managers before that, were the previous Reds who had been ejected from the league after the 1880 season. Some references indicate that this team was actually the prior version of the same team. Neonblak (talk) 01:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)