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Treat first unnamed parameter...[edit]

...as if a |date=, i.e. {{cn|October 2014}} would be the same as {{cn|date=October 2014}}...? Sardanaphalus (talk) 11:07, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm sure this has been rejected before; one reason would be that it would make the template inconsistent with all the other cleanup templates which use an explicit |date= parameter. There is at least one bot going around fixing such usage. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:52, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Understood. Thanks for pointing out. Sardanaphalus (talk) 11:51, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 12 October 2014[edit]

On this page, could the following text:

[[Category:Protected redirects]]

...please be replaced with the following text:

{{R fully protected}}

...so that the redirect is is put into the category via a tranclusion in an Rcat template rather than a category transclusion? Thanks! Steel1943 (talk) 18:19, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --Redrose64 (talk) 18:55, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2014[edit]

2. AFM 31-201 paragraph 2.5.5. The bombing of Khobar Towers prompted then Secretary of the Air Force, Dr. Sheila Widnall to state, ―…our review of the facts and circumstances surrounding it (the bombing) has drastically altered the way the Air Force thinks about, prepares for and defends threats to the safety of our forces.‖ In light of that changed environment, the Air Force directed actions to ensure Force Protection changes were instituted to meet those threats. (talk) 22:53, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[1] (talk) 22:53, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

  1. ^ AFM 31-201
Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{Citation needed}}. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:35, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 11 February 2015[edit]

Movie: 1) Land of The Minotaur Caracter of Beth: the name of the actress playing Beth is Vanna Revelli (Gelsomina)- 2) Movie Doubious Agent (Simmoreia Ston Mesogeio) the name of 'girl' is Vanna Revelli (Gelsomina) Can you please amend the cast names on these movies with the right spelling, thank you. (talk) 22:58, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{Citation needed}}. If possible, please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. If you cannot edit the article's talk page, you can instead make your request at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Current requests for edits to a protected page. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:19, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Distinct uses of this template[edit]

I feel it would be useful to have a means of differentiating between two distinct scenarios for which this template is prescribed:

In the latter case, I anticipated using the {{disputed}} template, but the documentation for that template says it's to be used only for cases where a source is given. It's for disputing a source, not an assertion lacking a source. That documentation points us to the {{citation needed}} template for unsourced assertions whether or not we disagree with them.

My reason has to do with more effectively attracting attention to the two different issues. This template places tagged pages into the Category:All articles with unsourced statements. I'd like a means of sorting these into "All articles with undisputed, unsourced statements" and "All articles with disputed, unsourced statements". The former would attract editors who enjoy searching for supporting references. The latter would attract editors who enjoy helping to ferret out inaccuracies and fixing or disposing of them. The outcome would be a more effective direction of editorial resources.

Ideally, there would be separate templates for the two scenarios, but the same could be accomplished with a disputed parameter. Hmm, even with the parameter, we could also create a template, {{disputed unsourced}} or something like that, that's redefined as this template with the disputed parameter.

What do you all think? —Largo Plazo (talk) 13:42, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

You'll see that I just resolved my issue regarding the church in Montevideo, but my proposal stands! —Largo Plazo (talk) 13:59, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
@Largoplazo: There is Template:Dubious. The documentation says its for sourced statements but I don't see anything wrong with using for your second case above. Jason Quinn (talk) 14:26, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

LONNIE BURR - citation verification anent HANS CHRISTIAN ANDERSEN[edit]

March 20, 1915 >> I am LONNIE BURR and provide evidence that I am related to Hans Christian Andersen [www.mouseketeerlonnieburr.com / lonniemmc@aol.com]under my WIKIPEDIA page. Karl Eimer Andersen, third cousin of Hans, was a ship's captain from DENMARK, and he and his family emigrated to the U.S.A.in the Nineteenth Century. Karl was the grandfather of my grandmothe, hence my great-grandfather, on my mother's side of the family. Sorry, I do not have his birth certificate. I have BEEN TRYING TO EDIT THIS CITATION FOR OVER FIVE YEARS but, being as civil and polite as possible and exercising our now lost "social contract", I have over the years found that the supercilious, obfuscated, time consuming, onerous and convoluted DIRECTIONS TO EDIT to be the second worse thing I have experienced. The first, like Oedipus, was putting out my eyes for which I used weasels. ;;--]]]

Mr. Lonnie Burr — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:05, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Note: this is the wrong place to discuss this. You should discuss this on the article's talk page, Talk:Lonnie Burr. I have actually removed the wording. We would need a published reliable source so that the information can be verified. -- GB fan 00:13, 17 March 2015 (UTC)