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Problem with this template. I like that it now collapses and gives you the option to "show" or "hide" but in the "show" option it wipes out the bottom portion of the page. The same thing happens with the Indians franchise box. Is this a problem with the browser or the box or just me? Thanks.69.68.238.142 18:49, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Mike Hargrove[edit]

Please leave Mike Hargrove as part of key personnel.

The Tribe is making a big deal out of bringing Hargrove on board, thus it's justifiable to include him on the list.

Thank you.

Vjmlhds 03:22, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

They may be doing that for PR purposes, but we keep "Key Personnel" strictly defined as Owner, GM, President and Manager at most, or else it could become a slippery slope with everyone in the entire front office being included in the template. --Muboshgu (talk) 03:37, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Key personnel equates to those who have high ranking positions and are high profile personalities in the front office. Hargrove is a high profile figure with a long history with the club. Joe Blow office assistant isn't the same as a Cleveland baseball legend. This isn't a slipeery slope. Hargrove's addition to the list does have merit.

Vjmlhds 03:34, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Ray Chapman's death[edit]

Chapman's death should be included in the culture and lore section.

There's the historic nature of being the only player to die in a game, and the effect on the team is also very important...it opened the door for Joe Sewell to come in, and he went on to have a Hall of Fame career.

Vjmlhds 02:20, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Please demonstrate how this is a part of the team's "culture and lore" section. From History of the Cleveland Indians, it seems to have made little to no impact on the team. Simply paving the way for Joe Sewell isn't sufficient, or else Wally Pipp's "headache" would be entered in {{New York Yankees}} – Muboshgu (talk) 16:37, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

The Indians, who at the time were locked in a tight three-way pennant race with the Yankees and White Sox,[19] were not slowed down by the death of their teammate. Rookie Joe Sewell hit .329 after replacing Chapman in the lineup

Retired numbers[edit]

No. 455 was never used by a Cleveland Indians team member, and the team website via mlb.com also does not recognize No. 455 as an officially retired number. Listing a PR move on the part of owner Larry Dolan — who, ironically, had little to do with the sellout streak in the 1990s under Richard Jacob's ownership — only diminishes the "retired numbers" section which is actually intended to highlight legendary players like Bob Feller and Larry Doby.  Levdr1lostpassword  (talk) 21:41, 23 April 2012 (UTC)