Template talk:Communist parties in the United States

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Black Panther Party[edit]

Although the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense had a period of convergence with the Communist Party, USA, exemplified by the United Front Against Fascism conference in Oakland in July 1969 and by the active role in both of Angela Davis, I don't think that it can be considered a Communist party in the sense that most users of the template would have. Its ideology wasn't really that close to any form of classical Marxism-Leninism. But I'm going here on memory of living in Berkeley and Oakland in the 1960's and 1970's, rather than having solid sources to back me up, so I'm ready to be persuaded by good reliable sources that say the BPP could indeed be Communist in some way that's different from dozens of other Black nationalist, New Leftist and Leftist organizations of the time. —— Shakescene (talk) 18:00, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I think I now see where some of the confusion, both here and at Black Panther Party (where a change from "was" to "is" was recently reverted), may have come from. See New Black Panther Party, which most outside observers consider to be a new group rather than a direct descendant of the Black Panther Party of the 1960's. The Wikipedia article (no better of course than its sources and its editors) says that the New BPP doesn't really have a Marxist-Leninist ideology, since it considers Marx's analysis to derive from earlier African thought. Also note (as I did when trying to add Communist Labor Party), that the template is for "current" Communist Parties. To the best of my imperfect understanding, the old Black Panther Party (which is what had been added to this template) isn't current; and the New BPP isn't Leninist. Needless to say, there's room for some sincere disagreement about those points. —— Shakescene (talk) 18:21, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

International Socialist Organization?[edit]

The International Socialist Organization is currently active and has a Leninist ideology. Should we add it to the template? —— Shakescene (talk) 06:00, 31 August 2012 (UTC)