Template talk:Confusing

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"for some readers" ?[edit]

Who wrote this template? It's horribly worded. Get rid of the "for some readers" bit. Every article will be confusing to somebody, somewhere. Maelin (Talk | Contribs) 14:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

this tag is useless unless. . .[edit]

. . .it is accompanied by explanation of what is confusing and why. All it says is that someone, somewhere, didn't understand some part of the article, which could have any number of causes:

  • maybe the writing is abstruse and/or jargon-filled
  • maybe the organization is incoherent
  • maybe the topic requires a certain amount of background knowledge to understand (e.g. many mathematics articles)
  • maybe the author didn't really understand the topic in the first place and is thus incapable of enlightening anyone else
  • or maybe the tagger lacks basic literacy.

Who knows? —Charles P._(Mirv) 19:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree. It should get a mandatory argument that points to a talkpage section detailing the problems. Shinobu (talk) 16:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Confusing redirects[edit]

What I find confusing are the redirects to these templates. I mean, {{clarify}} redirects here although the template does not include this word (however, includes unclear instead), while {{unclear}} redirects to the template named {{clarifyme}} and the text of which is simply "clarify". This is counterintuitive and the redirects should be swapped. --Eleassar my talk 12:29, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

this is historical. {{clarifyme}} and {{confusing}} have different uses, and it just so happens that the original meaning of the 'clarify' template was closer to the meaning of 'confusing' while the original meaning of 'unclear' was closer to the meaning of 'clarifyme'. there's no way (short of a bot) to go back and change the actual wording in the text, and changing the redirects would change the meaning of the tags in numerous articles. in other words, life sucks, but what are you gonna do... the only real solution would be to propose merging 'confusing' and 'clarifyme' - don't know if that would fly though. --Ludwigs2 19:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Using the AWB, I've replaced the text in the articles and swapped the redirects. --Eleassar my talk 12:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
OK that broke some stuff, but nevermind. Rich Farmbrough, 11:00 8 October 2008 (UTC).

Unclear section?[edit]

Where's the template that says this SECTION may be unclear? Michael Hardy (talk) 23:30, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

{{Confusing|section}} Rich Farmbrough, 17:33 26 May 2009 (UTC).

Relinked to how-to clarify[edit]

The prior intent of this tag-box (for years) was to link to the page that describes how to clarify text: "Wikipedia:Please clarify" (in 2007). Since then, that page about clarification had become un-clarified by people who added unclear wording that needed clarification about clarification steps. Naturally, that complification of the page was bound to happen, as perhaps a cosmic joke that the clarification steps would become unclear. However, I reworded that page to clarify the steps, and relinked that page as the advice for how-to clarify text. It is now very useful. All done. -Wikid77 (talk) 08:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

simplify redirect[edit]

I'm getting here when using { {simplify} }.

I was expecting to see a template about making text simpler, as in using less difficult words and concepts. Perhaps not to the point of using Simple English, but in that direction!

This one is about making text more clear, and that's arguably the opposite! (because when you simplify, you might replace technical terms with less precise but more commonly known terms)

I would like the simplify tag to point to a more appropriate template. Now, I'm off to find such a template! CapnZapp (talk) 15:30, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


Please add

| small = {{{small| {{#ifeq:{{lc: {{{1|}}} }}|section|left}} }}}

on a new line just below

"| class = ambox-confusing"

to allow section styling and small selection.

-- (talk) 23:29, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for contributing. mabdul 17:56, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Add new part of template[edit]

Please add in this: to add code of {{confusing language|date = August 2014}} as "This article may be confusing because of the way it is written. Please re-word this article so that the general public can understand this article."