Template talk:Coord

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Non-breaking spaces[edit]

Is it possible to add an optional parameter to this template so that an editor can set the inline output to use non-breaking spaces? — Ipoellet (talk) 21:10, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Use {{Nowrap | {{Coord|...}} }}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:23, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay, I'm feeling a bit silly that I didn't think of and try that already. Thank you for helping jog my thinking. — Ipoellet (talk) 17:23, 8 June 2014 (UTC)


Please tag this template with:

<noinclude>{{Tfm/dated|page=Coord|otherpage=Lunar coords and quad cat|link=Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 June 10#Template:Lunar coords and quad cat|help=off}}</noinclude>

Though why it's not editable by thsoe of us with template editor status isn't clear. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:09, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --Redrose64 (talk) 13:15, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

source:S parameter[edit]

Hi, just popping in to say that the doc on this parameter doesn't make it very clear as to acceptable values. It refers to a few specific cases such as GNIS, but it doesn't say what to do in cases that are not mentioned. For those cases, can we code whatever we think is appropriate, or will that cause problems down the road? Could the doc be clarified in that regard? (I would be happy to do that myself given the needed information, but I don't think I'm authorized to edit that page.) Thanks a lot and have a great Wikiday. Mandruss (talk) 17:35, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

I never use it myself, but some coord-adding bots do: if you're not a bot operator, you shouldn't need to worry about this data item. AFAIK it's plain text; but for technical reasons certain characters are not permitted. These forbidden characters include spaces, which won't throw an error, but will cause strange display. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:55, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Redrose64. But again, in the interest of the whole editing community rather than only myself, could the doc be changed to clarify? There's nothing in it that tells an editor, if you're not a bot operator, you shouldn't need to worry about this data item. And, from the many uses of {{coord}} that I've looked at in the relatively short time I've been editing, there have been a lot of people coding that parameter unnecessarily. I'm sure it seems like a nit to you, and I suspect I would feel the same way in your shoes. It's been a long time since you were a noob editor! Cheers, Mandruss (talk) 20:19, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
I looked long and hard for this information in 2008, but did not find much. My conclusions are here. —EncMstr (talk) 22:54, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Can we make a similar template for paleocoordinates?[edit]

As we all know, Earth's continents have moved over time. In light of this, scientists have worked to determine the historical locations of different geologic formations. I was wondering if a template could be created for those articles to display their "Approximate paleo-coordinates"? I think it woud be really interesting and informative. Abyssal (talk) 19:39, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

I have no doubt it could be done. But why? What would it mean? For example, how would 45°22′N 121°42′W / 45.37°N 121.70°W / 45.37; -121.70 map to a paleo coordinate? Maybe someone can start that article to explain the concept in a way that could be the basis of a conversion? —EncMstr (talk) 17:56, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
Paleocoordinates describe the location of a rock unit when it was deposited. If I say that the Antrim Shale of Michigan has paleo-coordinates of 34°24′S 29°12′W / 34.4°S 29.2°W / -34.4; -29.2 that means that about 385 million years ago, the US state of Michigan was in the southern hemisphere (!), at a location now far to the southeast of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (!). Abyssal (talk) 13:39, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
While I understand continental drift and plate tectonics and all, I have to wonder about what would form the frame of reference for a grid from 100 to 900 million years ago. Also, how accurate might that be? It seems to me there are many variables and too little knowledge about prehistoric geography and astronomy. Did the magnetic poles reverse, or did a large planetary body impact revise the Earth's spin? Did plates move faster during one period and more slowly during another? What about chaotic dynamics making them move in different directions at different times? How could the coordinates be within 25% and what are the reliable source for such a grid? There would also have be a time dimension as part of the coordinates: How should that be encoded. —EncMstr (talk) 17:51, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
I don't have any real background in paleogeography, so as for the accuracy of the science itself I can't comment. There are many reliable sources for paleocoordinates, including scientific journals, secondary non-fiction, textbooks, and such, but the best for our purposes would be the Paleobiology Database, since it could be mined using a bot and the articles tagged with a paleocoordinate template automatically. I don't think we need a time element for the template. How are you picturing it working? I was just picturing something like "Approximate paleocoordinates: 34°24′S 29°12′W / 34.4°S 29.2°W / -34.4; -29.2" being displayed in the upper corner of articles on geologic formations. Abyssal (talk) 18:48, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Adding a box mode[edit]

This monument is located at: 43°46′18.9″N 13°7′53.33″E / 43.771917°N 13.1314806°E / 43.771917; 13.1314806 (Lapide confinaria)

Is it possible (= do you think it would be useful) to add a "box" display option that generates something like this? When I have to place this template as inline in a particular section I never know how to introduce it. This would be a standardized and nice way of placing the coordinates of the subject of a subsection into a page. The word 'monument' would be an extra template's parameter that can be customized by the user depending on what he's geolocalizing. If you think it is good, somebody else has to implement it because unfortunately I don't know how to do it. --Bedo2991 (talk) 19:15, 11 July 2014 (UTC)