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Untitled[edit]

I would like to suggest some changes to this template.

I am of course away that Conde Dracula and Bram Stoker's Count Dracula do not yet have articles. I am willing to write stubs of same (as I have done for Dracula (1968) and Count Dracula (1977) and Dracula (BBC).

I see two other possible considerations--namely, should the Brides of Dracula be included among the characters? And should Dracula Sucks and/or Lust For Dracula be included (these are pornographic adaptations of the novel, not simply pornography using the idea of vampires and the name "Dracula")? Zahir13 07:12, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

---I recently added a section about other films featuring Dracula (like the "sequels" previously mentioned) though I am still missing alot. I also added a "hide" feature like some other templates have, but it's hard to see (it's in the upper right corner). Lastly, does anyone know how to get the v*d*e thing on the template (view*disscuss*edit)?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.75.79.126 (talk) 00:18, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Should we mention Forgetting Sarah Marshall? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freezing the mainstream (talkcontribs) 04:44, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Color[edit]

Something needs to be done about the color. We can't have jet black because it will blur out the separation lines. Unless you change those to another color, the black needs to be dimmed some, to all the accent lines to appear.  BIGNOLE   (Question?)  (What I do)  13:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Kim Newman[edit]

I don't see how Kim Newman's pastiches, while interesting, are worthy of being part of the main Dracula template. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BoosterBronze (talkcontribs) 19:41, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

There are in fact many solid reasons why they should be there. Perhaps you might want to start with considering their general popularity, favourable reviews and literary awards. The first Anno Dracula, for instance, won both The Children of the Night Award, The Fiction Award of the Lord Ruthven Assembly and The International Horror Critics' Guild Award. A more relevant question is: Why are books listed at the bottom, below video games? A more logical listing order might be: Characters, books, comics, stage plays, films and then video games. --Minutae (talk) 12:10, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Including Newman's books in "Literary Sequals" as opposed to their own section "Alternate Histories" seems much more appropriate. But for interest of space, perhaps just a link to the Anno Dracula series page. Also, as "Anno Dracula" is not exactly a sequal (but an alternative reality version) I propose a different title for the section. Perhpas something akin to "Literary Adaptions" or "Pastiches," as this would also allow notable works like Saberhagen's "Dracula Tapes" BoosterBronze (talk) 16:20, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Reworked the 'Literary Pastiche" section. Also included Salem's Lot, as Stephen King is very vocal that this notable novel is a blatant reworking of "Dracula."BoosterBronze (talk) 17:06, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Newman's books are not pastiches, as they don't attempt to mimic Stoker's or anyone else's literary style. They are fairly straight sequels, in that they take place after the point in time where Stoker's novel ends, involves most of the same characters in a continuation of the same story, and employs the traditional sequel trick, informing us that the villain didn't die after all. The fact that these books are also alternate universe stories neither makes them pastiches or non-sequels. --Minutae (talk) 23:15, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
They're not sequals in the sense that they hinge on the idea that the entire second half of Dracula didn't happen and he not only survived, but conquered England. I'm all for a better title for the section on literary works adapted from some aspect of "Dracula" but 'sequals' doesn't fit the Anno Draculas. BoosterBronze (talk) 17:46, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
You seem to have a somewhat limited idea of what a sequel is, but perhaps you mainly know the term from modern blockbuster movies that tend to be fairly linear. By the way, it is spelled "sequel" not "sequal". --Minutae (talk) 00:30, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
I added the "Historian" since it was such a major best-seller about Dracula, and another pseudo-sequal. We need to come up with both a fitting title for the literary section, as well as some kind of standard for notability of what shoud be included. BoosterBronze (talk) 19:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Notability[edit]

Given the sheer ammount of Dracula material out there, some standard of notability needs to be in place for this template, otherwise it becomes an unmanagelbe and not helpful regurgitation of the "Dracula in Pop Culture" article. I deleted a number of films from the list, for extreme obscurity and not really being a Dracula cenetered movie (LXG and Waxworks). I think even more can and should be removed for ease of navigation. BoosterBronze (talk) 17:11, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Given the near endless ammont of Drcula novels in publication, the following books seem notable enough to include in the main template. Many good books (among them Saberhagen's "Dracula Tape," Freda Warrington's "Dracula the Undead") don't seem significant enough, and should probably just be mentioned on the "In Popular Culture" page.

'Salems Lot- Huge best-seller, notable author, two film adaptaions. Anno Dracula- Successful series. Bloodline- Had a sequel The Historian- International bestseller Fangland- Film in production with John Carpenter The Un-Dead- Lots and lots of press coverage due to co-author's lineage. BoosterBronze (talk) 20:16, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Just an idea to help reduce the clutter - how about we exclude any works that are adaptations of anything other than the original Stoker novel? For example, right now we have Van Helsing and the Van Helsing video game, and the Coppola film and the video game based on the Coppola film. I suggest we remove the two games, as they are both mentioned briefly in the articles for the films. After all, if we include all the tie-in games, then you could say we'd have to include the various novelisations of the films... NeilEm (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:30, 23 November 2011 (UTC).

"Bram Stoker's"[edit]

I noticed someone had changed the heading for this template to Bram Stoker's "Dracula", probably someone unformilior with the original novel, so I changed it back. IndridCold13 (talk) 23:28, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Transylvania 6-5000[edit]

Why is the 1985 film Transylvania (6-5000) included in this template? The name "Dracula" is certainly mentioned in that film several times and one character is referred to as "a lady Dracula" but no character called Dracula appears in it. Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 12:40, 9 October 2012 (UTC)