Template talk:Electoral systems

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I think this list should be limited to commonly used systems: those that are (or have been) used at a national level, or in many places for local government elections. Otherwise it'll quickly become huge. I would like to have included approval but AFAIK it still hasn't caught on, and if you include one such system you have to include them all. Condorcet is also rare but it was possible to include it under the single "preferential systems" link. Iota 16:08, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

usage on smaller pages[edit]

Is it appropriate to use this template on pages that are not on the template, for example Nanson's method? It would provide a great deal of context to some of the more arcane stubs and split-out articles out there, but if there's consensus against it, then I won't. -- nae'blis 17:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Merge template[edit]

I added the merge template to this template and the Voting template. They both seem to have the same point and massively overlap. They are also used inconsistently on pages that they both link to. Please add your opinion if you Agree or Disagree and a brief reason backing it up.--Old Hoss 05:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Agree - I think the voting template should be merged into the electoral systems template and the brief of the electoral systems template widend to include all electoral systems, not just common ones to present more of a neutral point of view in regards to the subject matter. - Grumpyyoungman01 11:17, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Below is a proposal to merge the aspects of both Template:Voting and Template:Electoral systems and convert them to a footer to be placed at the bottom of each listed page. I have included every link from both templates, and culled as many as I could from the category pages. Unfortunately, I know very little about this topic (other than the navigation was rough). Therefore, I need help in placing the links in the proper grouping; near the end I just ended up throwing them wherever. I may have included some terrible choices and may have excluded just as many. Please review the proposal and make the appropriate changes or suggestions.--Old Hoss 00:25, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Reduce table?[edit]

This table is causing formatting problems because it is so large. Images that follow, floating right, get pushed below this and connected text gets pushed way down with it.

Can this table be split - divide single and multiwinner methods and cross-linking them? Tom Ruen 05:28, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

runoff categorisation[edit]

Can someone explain the rationale/categorisation behind the systems of: Two-round system, Bucklin voting, Coombs' method, Exhaustive ballot and Instant-runoff voting. What logically should come under what sub-category in the hierachial template? Note also from Runoff dab page that there are multiple uses for the term in electoral systems. Either refering solely to Two-round system or as an umbrella term. I don't see how instant-runoff could be called a runoff voting system anymore than could condorcet method, as all the counting is done instantly and there is no other election, preferences are used instead.

Thoughts? Solutions?

Grumpyyoungman01 09:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

These runoff methods have sequential rounds of counting. If there's no winner in the previous round, the count is ignored and the new round is the only active round. Comparatively Condorcet methods use no elimination and track parallel pairwise counts, and all counts are active at the same time. Does that help? Tom Ruen 18:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
That is a pretty clear definition, but the individual pages for these runoff systems aren't so clear cut that they are all alike in this respect, which is what confused me in the first place.
How would that distinction apply to the organisation of links on this template? What you have said suggests that Two-round system and exhaustive ballot should be placed along with the others underneath runoff voting, which they currently are not. Could you please edit the template to clear this up? Thanks for you help. - Grumpyyoungman01 23:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I didn't feel comfortable changing too much since I didn't create it. I actually only recently moved two round system outside of preferential systems which implies the use rank ballots. I'll wait to see if anyone else is watching for ideas. Tom Ruen 23:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

The category Random selection should be dropped since those methods are also either Single-winner or Multiple-winner. There is no reason why this aspect of methods (being deterministic or non-deterministic) should be considered any more relevant than other ascpects (e.g., being monotonic or non-monotonic, being preferential or not, and so on). Heitzig-j (talk) 12:08, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Oklahoma primary electoral system[edit]

It is not clear that this is the name of a system, as opposed to a description. Sergeant Cribb (talk) 18:43, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

If you have a better suggestion, please promulgate it. If not, then you can either nominate the article for deletion or let it stand as a well-researched and -referenced piece of encyclopedic material. But an article about an electoral system exist and not be part of the template which lists electoral systems is absurd. ╟─TreasuryTagAfrica, Asia and the UN─╢ 18:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Name[edit]

This template is named Electoral methods, but deals with more than elections. What could be a more representative name? Group selection methods? I guess that sounds like a method to select a group. Collective selection methods? --Chealer (talk) 19:26, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

MMP and AMS[edit]

MMP is classified under proportional. AMS (which is a bit of a vague term) is included under semi-proportional systems. What's up? They can't be both. Unless AMS is meant to be parallel voting but that already has its own heading. Nlsanand (talk) 23:02, 24 July 2012 (UTC)