Template talk:Ethnic groups in Burma

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I work with Burmese refugees and am personally familiar with several Burmese-Nepalese families and individuals.

I have not found any reference to them on Wikipedia under ethnic groups of Burma. My understanding is they arrived there in the wake of Nepalese independence in the 1940s or 1950s, sometimes due to close ties with the former British colonial rulers. I know other Nepalis fled to Bhutan and India.

I wish someone more knowledgeable than myself would start a page for them as I wish to know more about this ethnic group.

Thanks,

Peter Huston 65.110.133.104 (talk) 18:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

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Why do not want to put Burmese Muslims or Myanmar Muslims and Burmese Indian Muslims or Myanmar Indian Muslims as separate group. But Burmese Malays and Panthays could be mentioned. Ne Win’s BSPP/SLORC/SPDC is illegally denying to register us as separate ethnic group without success. Germans killed 6 million Jews but failed. I am not asking for any special rights but no one can deny that we are Citizens and in Democracy, please read UN articles in Wikipedia for the citizen rights and Individual Freedom. No need to fight anymore. --— Preceding unsigned comment added by Darz kkg (talkcontribs)

It's difficult to use religion as the sole determinant that qualifies a group of people as an ethnic group. There are many Muslim ethnic groups, including the Rohingya, Panthays, and Malays, Indians, and other ethnic converts (like ethnic Burmans who marry Muslims). I believe we should classify on the basis of ethnolinguistic similarity, not by religion. Nonetheless, the template does not include groups like the Burmese Chinese, Indians, etc., because the list currently includes only the 135 ethnic groups classified by the government, out of precedents set in other Wikipedia articles.--Hintha 22:31, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Cleaning up the template[edit]

I propose that we clean up the template and split up all 135 groups into the "national races" as designated by the government (the Burmese version is available here: my:Template:မြန်မာပြည်_လူမျိုးများ), even if it's inaccurate, ethnolinguistically speaking. --Hintha (talk) 08:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Source for this template?[edit]

What is the source for this template? There are many problems with it. For example, the Khmu people are not Shan...they're not even from Tai stock, they're Austro-Asiatic. Does the Burmese government recognize them as "Shan"? If so, it should be cited or at least made more explicit in the template so as not to give readers the wrong impression.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 03:40, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

The Source for this template is a stupid military rule. It is a widely known problem that Shan State has four language families. But the military would like to see all the ethnic groups in museum. And only there. The military regime is so stupid that it is best to ignored it. The propaganda is stupid, rash, ill.Jesper7 (talk) 08:40, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
The nine groups in Kayah State from begging letter from a missionary in Shan State. Ghekhu by Paolo Manna in 1902.

http://www.shanland.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4965:135-counting-races-in-burma&catid=115:opinions&Itemid=308 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesper7 (talkcontribs) 10:47, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

The official documents from Burma, refers to a (lost) Tourism page:

http://www.myanmars.net/NEWVER/people/ethnic.groups.htm (2006) which respond to http://www.journeysmyanmar.com/123_ethnic.htm

But this page is from wikipedia. In a developing country like Burma, so write wikipedia official documents.Jesper7 (talk) 12:04, 24 August 2013 (UTC)