Template talk:Eurovision Song Contest
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Someone added Young Dancers so I've added the Young Musicians competition to the page.--gottago 14:19, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
I thought that this was supposed to be for the Song Contest only? Not the kiddie contest... not the dancing contest... not the musicians' contest... but the Eurovision Song Contest.
I propose that we strip out all the other stuff and make it about the ESC only.
- In fact, now I check it, it seems that there are already existing templates for those other competitions separately. Now on their pages they have TWO template boxes: their individual competition boxes, and the generic Eurovision one! I will fix this... EuroSong talk 08:35, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Eurovision Dance Contest
- I think that would be good but we should wait until we are closer to the contest and when a new article is made for the specific 2007 contest.--Gottago 18:53, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
- I have already created a 2007 and have been updating it page and I have included it on the template for like the 10th time, hope you do not delete it this time.--Tony0106 14:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC-7)
I absolutely disagree. The "Dance Contest" is not a part of the Song Contest - nor is it a "spin off", like the Junior version. It's simply another event by the EBU which uses the "Eurovision" name. The Dance Contest does not belong as a part of the Song Contest template. In any case, the first edition has not even been broadcast! EuroSong talk 23:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Template standardisation plans
I have put together some plans to standardise the template structure in Eurovision articles, as a variety of different naming styles are currently used. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#Standardising templates for details. CT Cooper · talk 15:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Remove cities and venues
Well, then we might as well take the issue over to WikiProject Cities, as this template is apparently about a bunch of cities. It doesn't matter if it isn't an article, templates do not "belong" to projects either. As this template is transcluded into various articles about cities it clearly goes beyond the scope of your project. Also, WikiProjects cannot locally decide that their articles should go against general guidelines, and this template clearly doesn't follow the spirit of WP:NAVBOX. I appreciate the work you've put into these templates, but would suggest that you think a bit more about their usability and their function in the larger encyclopedia. Väsk (talk) 14:12, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
- Please do not remove templates like you did by removing the closure template. You action is basically refactoring other's comments and is against WP:TPNO and WP:TPO. The debate has been moved to the project talk page so that other members are aware of this discussion and can participate if they wish. The fat that you are not wanting this to happen could be seen as you objecting to their rights to take part. If you wish to make further comments and receive replies, then they will be made at the project talk page from herewith. And please try to maintain civility. I found the last sentence of your comment to be an attack on my ability to think. These navoxes have not been created by myself, so I would appreciate if you retracted that remark. WP:OWN is in regards to editor's; not project's. WP:LOCALCONSENSUS refers to participants within Project's, not project's on their own merit. Wes Mouse 14:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
- I didn't see your closure of the debate as a comment in itself, if you interpreted this as me removing one of your comments, I'm sorry. I found your sudden closure of the debate perplexing as I hadn't experienced that before on Wikipedia. Also, your closure of the debate is against the documentation on Template:Discussion top which states it "should only be used by uninvolved editors or administrators". If you want to involve people from various WikiProjects it is perfectly permissible to post a notice on various talks pages or noticeboards pointing towards the relevant talk page. My final remark was merely a suggestion that you respond to my point of view and was not a slight against you as a person, if you interpreted it as such I am of course sorry.
- However, I can see that my suggestions for changing this template weren't taken well and will not push this any further. Väsk (talk) 17:43, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
- Apology accepted. The closure wasn't a sudden thing as such. Whenever I've moved a debate to a more appropriate place, then I use the "Template:Discussion top" to show that a debate has been moved, so that new editors are aware, if they so wish to participate. That method also avoids having the debate taking place in multiple places; which may confuse matters further. Ultimately the proposal would bare an impact on the other templates too, which is why it would be more logical to discuss them all together at WT:ESC which is the Project that primarily deals with Eurovision-related material (including templates). There's always one person who would start to discuss each template on their individual talk pages, so merging the discussion to one easier to access talk page (in this case the project talk page) would be the logical and less-perplexing way forward. Wes Mouse 19:51, 7 July 2014 (UTC)