Template talk:History of the United States

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WikiProject United States (Rated Template-class)
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WikiProject United States History (Rated Template-class)
WikiProject icon This template is within the scope of WikiProject United States History, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the history of the United States on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
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Footer vs. sidebar[edit]

I would feel much better about this if it were a footer rather than a right-aligned box. I will change it myself in a few days if there are no complaints. --mav

Complainant here. :) We've been talking about this box and others on Wikipedia:Article series and I think it fits with the other national history series boxes. Consistency is, yes, the hobgoblin of little minds, but I think it also pulls Wikipedia together nicely. Could you show us what you had in mind? jengod 22:24, Mar 6, 2004 (UTC)
Like the footers on the country pages. See bottom of United States. The box at History of the United States is especially bad since it duplicates the section names - people should visit those sections first, read the summary if needed, and then, if they want more info, visit the main article on that section. Having the box at top also takes up very important real estate that would be better used by having a WikiProject table (like at American Civil War) and/or a photo. If still needed, a link to History of the United States can still be in the same spot as the current table. --mav
Whatever. jengod

Topics[edit]

To keep this navbox simple and straightforward I think it would be better if the topics section were removed and only the "history of the United States" series kept. The topics are also linked in the bottom navbox {{US history}} which has more space.

Alternatively, perhaps inclusion criteria could be formed? I expect links to articles that are topical yet holistic in terms of time and place (at least in terms of contemporary U.S. territory), which would exclude links to the African American civil rights movement (1896-1968), the Civil War, and the South. These are important topics of course however there's also slavery, the Revolution, and the West that are similarly important yet omitted. African American history and women's history would be included.

I favor the simplicity of the first option. Does anyone have any opinions? Remove, clarify, none of the above? —Mrwojo (talk) 23:02, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Image[edit]

The Great Seal is kind of dull as an image choice for this template. Could we possibly replace with something that might cast a little more color on US history? I was thinking of (a scaled-down version of) Washington Crossing the Delaware, as that is a pretty iconic moment in - and unmistakable depiction of - American history. --70.181.184.7 (talk) 21:03, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Topic vs. Ethnicity[edit]

I kind of think that topics should appear before ethnicities in this template. I believe them to be more general and of more broad-based interest. Thoughts? pbp 14:40, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

  • I don't think I mind, although perhaps it could be argued that it's "by topic" which is most general in scope (i.e. regardless of year or ethnicity), so should come last..? CsDix (talk) 15:34, 2 March 2013 (UTC)