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Iberian?[edit]

I suggest extending this to cover the whole peninsula.
Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:54, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I actually agree with you 100% on this, particularly given that the geography of the area has been far more constrained than the political boundaries. Allows adding Luistano, Sorraia, etc... Rename "Iberian horses"??? Montanabw(talk) 03:48, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Follow up: Here's the list from the FAO identified group of breeds in the Iberian horse article (which may need to be tweaked to be brought up to speed, though we have very good articles on the Andalusian, Sorraia and the Lusitano, the rest are pretty much stubs). Montanabw(talk) 04:22, 5 April 2011 (UTC)  :

Portuguese: Lusitano, Sorraia and Garrano

Spanish: [[Asturcon|Asturcón]], Burguete, Caballo de Monte del País Vasco, [[Galician Pony|Pura Raza Gallega]], Pura Raza Española ([[Andalusian horse]]), [[Hispano (horse)|Hispano-Arabe]], [[Hispano-Bretón]], [[Jaca Navarra]], [[Losina]], [[Monchina]] and [[Pottok|Pottoka]], as well as the Cavall Mallorquí, Mallorquina and Menorquina (subsets of the [[Balearic (horse)|Balearic]] breed<ref>[http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S1415-47572007000100009&script=sci_arttext Genetic characterization of the Spanish Trotter horse breed using microsatellite markers], ''Genetics and Molecular Biology'', accessed November 5, 2009.</ref>).<ref>Lopez, Maria S. ''et al.''. "Mitochondrial DNA Insight On The Evolutionary History Of The Iberian Horses." ''Poroceedings of the XIV Plant and Animal Genome Conference,'' 2006. Web page accessed June 17, 2007 at http://www.intl-pag.org/14/abstracts/PAG14_P594.html</ref> Marismeno is not on FAO list.

That page certainly needs some attention. As you know, Spain is not at all 'my' area, I just thought I'd fix the redlinks in this template I found, that got me interested. I agree that the FAO is a very important and authoritative source, but I don't think it can be taken as better authority than the Spanish government on Spanish matters. The Marismeño is among the breeds protected by Decreto Real 2129/2008 dated 26 December, and I think we should take the King of Spain's word on that one! I think I put into the stub I made that recognition and recovery began only in 2003 (except I couldn't put 'only', that would have been OR).
I'll move and rename the template and add the three Portuguese breeds.
Are we sure that the Menorquí and Menorquina are separate? My superficial understanding is that the first is the Catalan and the second the Castellano name for the same thing. As for 'Balearic horse' subsets, again I think we should take the King of Spain's word: if he thinks they are separate, we separate; if not, not (he does, btw). The Mallorquí is on the FAO Critical-maintained list, the Menorquí is not. What do you think?
Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:07, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Recent changes[edit]

Discussion consolidated at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Agriculture#Breed navboxes. Montanabw(talk) 18:41, 12 February 2014 (UTC)