Template talk:Infobox company

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edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for Template:Infobox company:
  • Change Net income to Net income (profit)
  • Redesign or fork template to reduce 27 variables to the essentials!
  • Allow a photo field in addition to logo
  • Please add a field for the DUNS of the company.

Add former names parameter[edit]

I suggest add a parameter to add the former names, like in Template:Infobox television channel. I suggest add this parameter after |romanized_name=

| label14 =  Formerly called
| data14  = {{{former names|}}}

--Vivaelcelta {talk  · contributions} 11:29, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi.
I need to know whether this addition would be complaint with WP:DUE. Please give us an example as to how this parameter is going to be used.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 02:10, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't see that being an issue; and any cases where it is can be dealt with locally. Accordingly, I've added the requested parameter, but as |former name= (singular, and with an underscore) in keeping with the template's other parameters. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:46, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
and I fixed your edit. we should use a sandbox before making changes? Frietjes (talk) 14:49, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Is the "called" part really necessary? Would it not be adequate to simply be "formerly"?--Tærkast (Discuss) 13:16, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Headquarters[edit]

Something I noticed: when a <ref> for location_city is not placed after the location_country text, the Headquarters entry will display the citation number before the comma. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 17:27, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

The citation should be in the boy of the article, not the infobox. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:38, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi. Did you just say the "boy" of the article? Do you mean {{reflist}}?
Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 01:27, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I think Andy meant to write body. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 01:36, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Oh, yes, that actually makes more sense. LOL. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 15:22, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

logo padding[edit]

just added a |logo_padding= parameter after it was brought to my attention that

and others were using <br /> to create spacing before and after the logo. not sure why we need this, so please feel free to remove it if you think it's entirely spurious. Frietjes (talk) 21:25, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Frietjes I see no reason why to have extra spaces above and below. Logos seem OK to me. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:27, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I also cannot see why. Extra padding contradicts the nature of infoboxes. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 04:45, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

The template is broken?[edit]

screenshot for Template talk:Infobox company

Link: Kikkoman --RaphaelQS (talk) 12:33, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

breakage was caused by someone not using the sandbox, but it was fixed here. Frietjes (talk) 15:57, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Formatting of negative amounts of money[edit]

A couple of times (see Template_talk:Infobox_company/Archive_6), questions on how to format negative numbers have been asked, but no discussion has followed.

It seems that the most common way is to write the currency symbol, followed by digits in parentheses, then followed by a multiple (e.g. "millions"). Among the FTSE 100 companies, this is currently the only way of denoting negative amounts that is in actual use. See [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], and [8]. E.g.: "£(0.802) billion (2013)" For one FTSE 100 company, Barclays, a potentially confusing notation with positive dollar amounts in parentheses is used, though: "£1.297 billion (2013) ($2.224B USD)"

I have only been able to find a few major American companies with negative financial amounts: [9], [10], and [11]. For these three, hyphens were used in order to denote negative amounts, which is against MOS:MINUS, where the use of &minus; is prescribed (now fixed for those). E.g.: "US$ -6.544 billion (2013)"

The template documentation does not comment on how to express negative amounts. If it were not for the precedent, I would advocate specifying in the documentation that a minus should be used. Not every Wikipedia user is accustomed to reading financial tables, and adding to potential confusion, there are prescribed uses in the infobox of parentheses around digits with other meanings than negative numbers, e.g. years and ownership percentages. Finally, of course, in most non-financial contexts, negative numbers are denoted by minus signs.

But it seems like an uphill struggle to reverse the currently most common notation, and as long as the parentheses are placed strictly just around the digits, there can be little confusion about their meaning. Does anyone have a clear opinion about this? The use of a hyphen is clearly wrong, as upon a quick glance, the hyphen is almost invisible in the default font. Perhaps the documentation should specify the use of "either the appropriate '&minus;' minus sign, or no minus sign at all but instead parentheses around the digits?" --OttoG (talk) 17:35, 4 September 2014 (UTC) --OttoG (talk) 18:31, 4 September 2014 (UTC)