Template talk:Monarchs of Japan

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Hirohito/Shōwa[edit]

The designation in this template of the Japanese emperor who reigned from 1926 to 1989 as "Hirohito/Shōwa" is a reflection of the consensus of the latest round of a long series of discussions on the appropriate name for this person in English Wikipedia usage (see "Requested move - Jan 2009" on the Hirohito talk page and the talk page archives). Please do not change the designation in this template until and unless there has been a documented change in the above consensus. -- Meyer (talk) 04:35, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

"Empire of Japan" historical period[edit]

I reversed revision 345411456 by 61.115.125.93 at 12:38, 21 February 2010. The revision regrouped the monarchs previously listed under "Modern Japan" into "Empire of Japan" and "Current". I cannot find any source using the Empire of Japan as a basis for historical periodization. Sources either group Meiji through Heisei eras together as "Modern Japan", or consider each era since Meiji as its own historical period.

At the moment, "Modern Japan" redirects to Heisei period, which isn't accurate. I think "Modern Japan" needs it's own article, even if just links to the four modern eras. I won't have the time to put anything together for at least a few days, so anyone should feel free to jump in with something first. --Meyer (talk) 04:54, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

I have changed it to "Empire of Japan", since that is the term generally used for this period of Japanese history. "Imperialist Japan" does not even have a redirect on Wikipedia (unlike Imperial Japan, which might be acceptable). It is also historically questionable/POV, since the word "imperialist" is generally used with another meaning, and to describe Japan in the early-Meiji period this way is slightly offensive (unequal treaties, black ships and all). And the early-Meiji period was the only time when the Emperor was actually the supreme ruler -- the Meiji Constitution promulgated two decades into his reign bound him to the terms of the constitution (Article 4) and his decisions needed to be signed off by a minister (Article 55). elvenscout742 (talk) 08:01, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Although if you or anyone else has a significant problem with my edit I am prepared to compromise with Imperial Japan? Another issue, though, is that the Showa Emperor now appears on the list twice. Anyone have a problem with removing the Empire of Japan reference to him? The majority of his reign, and the part of the Showa period most widely associated with the name, took place after the War. elvenscout742 (talk) 08:11, 16 October 2012 (UTC)