Template talk:Non-free video game screenshot

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Edit request[edit]

{{editprotected}} Request: Can you please replace the two images with this version? Copyrighted video game icon.svg Image:Copyrighted video game icon.svg Thanks in advance! -- Tkgd2007 (talk) 02:22, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:30, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

wow[edit]

Talk about a run-on sentence... "It is believed that the use of a limited number of web-resolution screenshots for identification and critical commentary on the computer or video game in question or the copyrighted character(s) depicted on the screenshot in question on the English-language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation, qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law, as such display does not significantly impede the right of the copyright holder to sell the copyrighted material, is not being used to turn a profit in this context, and presents ideas that cannot be exhibited otherwise." Ross Uber - Talk - Contributions - 03:10, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Table of contents breakage[edit]

The table of contents on Category:Screenshots of computer and video games currently does not work correctly. All letters link to Image:LETTER, but the "Image" part of that is ignored for the purpose of indexing the images. I think this should be fixed in this template, rather than in the category page, because some images are included within the category without using this template, and those do work correctly. If someone knows how to fix this, please do so. Thanks! StuartBrady 03:37, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually it wasn't that either was wrong, but that they didn't match. Generally we index image categories by the image name so that not everything ends up under I, so I fixed the category page and undid the template change. JYolkowski // talk 18:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, but there are still images under 'I' which don't belong there. CategoryNamedTOC|Image is used for other categories and works for those categories, which is why I tried to fix it in the template. Thanks for trying, though. StuartBrady 21:34, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Actually, there's more to this than I first thought - some images that use Template:Game-screenshot are affected. StuartBrady 21:41, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
What you need to do is to make null edits on all of the images indexed under "Image". Simply popping into edit and hitting "Save page" will cause the images to be re-indexed to the proper place in the category. JYolkowski // talk 03:06, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
Okay, done - thanks! StuartBrady 13:38, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Company that developed the game[edit]

Do you think it would perhaps be better changed to: "the copyright for it is most likely held by the company or person that developed the game?" This template is used for a screenshot of Scorched Earth, which was developed entirely by one person. Just a thought. 87.232.1.49 21:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Clarification needed[edit]

Ok, there are editors using this vague template as an excuse to over-reach Fair Use.

  • A photograph is copyright to the photographer.
  • The contents of the photograph are copyright to the owner of the content.

...

  • Fair-use is you taking a photo of a game to upload to an article.
  • Fair-use IS NOT taking a photo from a random website and uploading it into the Wiki.

Please read: 1, 2. BcRIPster 21:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

What sort of change are you proposing? From the sound of things, it seems the users involved may need to be reminded of our fair use policy; if there's a particular template modification that could resolve this, I'm not sure if I see it, and it's not clear what sort of change you want, either way. =\ So, what sort of text would you like added or removed? Luna Santin 03:03, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, I was thinking something expansion on the bullets above, but I'm not sure how to keep it concise? The problem relates to a lack of understanding of where the lines for fair-use and derivate works reside in regards to screenshots of games found on the web. There appears to be this belief that any screenshot of a videogame is fair use, discounting the fact that that only applies to the photographer/publisher of the original photograph. A reuse of that photo by a third party without consent of the photographer is a copyright violation. BcRIPster 03:42, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Game screenshots are generally considered to have their copyright reside in the maker of the game, rather than the taker of the screenshot, because that's where the creativity came from. A reviewer won't come after you for reusing their screenshots (and would be on dubious ground anyway). Is there an example I'm missing? Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 08:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Nothing personal, but for the sake of brevity, maybe you should read this recent exchange I had at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Computer_and_video_games#Screenshots.3F in its' entirety. Then come back and we can talk more. Don't feel bad, most people don't understand all of this, and the gaming mags haven't helped matters much. A screenshot of a game is covered by two copyrights. One with the content (by the game creator), and the second with the photographer (who took/published the photo). The photographer may have fair-use/derivative works protections depending on how he intends to use the photo (thereby protecting him from being sued by the content creator). A third party who wants to use that photo has to get permsion from the original photographer first, and then if they wish to use the content of the photo in a commercial manor, they will need permissions from both the content creator and the photographer, and possibly owe both royalties. If the third party wants to replicate the photo in a fair-use/derivative works arangement, then they may only need permission from the photographer. Just because game magazines don't go around suing everyone doesn't mean they can't. They have that right. Thanks. BcRIPster 09:25, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Quick comment. Without forming an opinion on the discussion, there doesn't seem to be a consensus to change the licensing template at this time; you may wish to pursue dispute resolution or head to the village pump or appropriate image policy talk pages (perhaps WP:FU?) so that such consensus can be achieved. Luna Santin 22:22, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

After consideration I have added the discussion entry at WP:FU . BcRIPster 21:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Add link[edit]

Can you add link to article screenshot, thanks. ---Majestic- 12:04, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

"This is a screenshot of a copyrighted computer game or video game..."

categorization[edit]

I'd like to request that the template be moved from Category:video game templates to Category:video game media templates. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 02:51, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

SVG image should be used.[edit]

Can someone please update the image to this one? Image:Gamepad.svg

Thanks!--SUBZ3R0 ( Talk | E-mail ) 20:40, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

YesY Done. Sandstein 22:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Encouraging fair-use rationale[edit]

I have proposed a wording change to our non-free image templates, and I'm trying to keep the discussion centralized here. Please join in the discussion. (ESkog)(Talk) 11:31, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Looking at the category...[edit]

Since the category the template uses, Category:Screenshots of video games, has a number of sub-cats, is it possible it add the same functionality that {{Non-free game cover}} has? That is, to allow the screenshots to be catted directly to the sub from the template in stead of having both the parent and sub.

Thanks for listening... - J Greb 16:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

For GPL game screenshots[edit]

{{editprotected}}

You know like for The Battle for Wesnoth, that game is open-source, yet whenever they go to tag screenshots of games, they always go for the "non-free game screenshot" tag. Think maybe we could add one of those If this is a screenshot of free software (GPL, BSD, etc.) do not use this template! Use the license tag that correspond to the license instead, optionally alongside {{Free screenshot}} to categorize as a free screenshot boxes to this tag? ViperSnake151 12:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Done. — Carl (CBM · talk) 16:31, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Image:Red copyright.svg[edit]

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Red copyright.svg

Please add one above the present image. It will make the fact that the image is actually copyrighted clearer. — Kalan ? 17:22, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


In addition to, or instead of, the current controller image? — Coren (talk) 04:04, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 04:53, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Make like Category:Video game covers?[edit]

The aforementioned category has subcategories for each system, so as to make it easier to navigate and to clutter it up a lot less. Why not do the same thing for Category:Screenshots of video games? After all, there already are a few categories for certain consoles set up. N. Harmonik (talk) 17:06, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Freeware[edit]

I think we should create a template for freeware because this template has been used in images of free but copyrighted software (specially videogames).Marco94 (talk) 02:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Copyright owners?[edit]

Shouldn't we also list the copyright owners? they deserve proper credit too. 68.36.214.143 (talk) 18:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Edit request[edit]

{{editprotected}} There is a text in the template which show as "non-free", but link to the Free software page. I'd like to suggest to replace the link to Proprietary software.

--Drhlajos (talk) 08:41, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --CapitalR (talk) 14:41, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

mk interwiki[edit]

{{editprotected}} Please add mk:Шаблон:Неслободен скриншот на игра interwiki. Thanks. --iNkubusse? 22:17, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Done. --- RockMFR 22:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Covers and Screenshots[edit]

{{editprotected}} You know how Template: Non-free game cover is made so that you put this (|) then the console's name to have the image put in a specific sub-section? Maybe the same thing could be done to this template. If the screenshots were put into console-specific sub-sections, it would make navigating them much easier. N. Harmonik (talk) 21:28, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

N Not done. The request is not specific enough. Please provide the exact code you would like to change.  Sandstein  13:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Just add the text between the 'nowiki's: <includeonly>{{{category|[[Category:Screenshots of {{{1|Video}}} games|{{PAGENAME}}]] {{#if:{{{2|}}}|[[Category:Screenshots of {{{2}}} games|{{PAGENAME}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{3|}}}|[[Category:Screenshots of {{{3}}} games|{{PAGENAME}}]]|}} }}}</includeonly> To make it easier, maybe Category: Screenshots of video games should be moved to Category: Video game screenshots. N. Harmonik (talk) 02:25, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Change link[edit]

{{editprotected}} Change the video link to video game. It read like the template was for videos and computer games instead of video games and computer games. RP9 (talk) 19:56, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Done. --- RockMFR 23:12, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Computer game[edit]

{{editprotect}} The link to Computer game needs to be changed to Personal computer game (maybe have it as [[Personal computer game|computer game]]. This is the correct link and is needed since the template is widely (fixing links in templates and infoboxes is allowed). TJ Spyke 17:33, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Done, cheers,  Skomorokh, barbarian  08:37, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Like game covers?[edit]

{{editprotected}} I know I've said this before but I thought it important to reiterate: you know how Template: Non-free game cover is made so that you put this (|) then the console's name to have the image put in a specific sub-section? Maybe the same thing could be done to this template. If the screenshots were put into console-specific sub-sections, it would make navigating them much easier. Just add the text between the 'nowiki's: <includeonly>{{{category|[[Category:Screenshots of {{{1|Video}}} games|{{PAGENAME}}]] {{#if:{{{2|}}}|[[Category:Screenshots of {{{2}}} games|{{PAGENAME}}]]|}} {{#if:{{{3|}}}|[[Category:Screenshots of {{{3}}} games|{{PAGENAME}}]]|}} }}}</includeonly> To make it easier, maybe Category: Screenshots of video games should be moved to Category: Video game screenshots. N. Harmonik (talk) 01:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Your idea sounds good, but it is quite a big change and probably deserves some discussion before going ahead. Therefore I have disabled your request for the moment. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

PS, I see your request has already stood for two days without comment. Maybe you could bring this up at WT:VG? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:39, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Video game screenshots and covers[edit]

{{editprotected}} I believe there is enough consensus from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games#Video_game_screenshots to move forward with better organizing the screenshots. Note the coding I provided above, I think it'll work. N. Harmonik (talk) 03:29, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. Please update the documentation. If you want to move categories, please start a discussion at WP:CFD. Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:44, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Er...When editing the template, you captialized the 'V' in 'Video'. Because of that, practically all of the screenshots are in a nonexistent category: Category:Screenshots of Video games. N. Harmonik (talk) 20:40, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Fair-use rationale[edit]

Other templates, e.g. {{Non-free software screenshot}}, {{Non-free web screenshot}} include a more prominent (notice) reminder for the uploader to include a rationale. They also include a parameter to set when such a rationale is in place. While {{Video game rationale}} can be used to substitute parameters in the {{Non-free use rationale}}, it's not linked to in the reminder here in {{Non-free game screenshot}}. Is it reasonable to ask for this template be amended as follows?

  • Notice reminder to draw attention
  • Suggest use of {{Video game rationale}}
  • Addition of image has rationale parameter

Thanks for reading. -- Trevj (talk) 15:00, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Bug?[edit]

Does the template support only three subsections?. When I add more it only show three. See: File:Baconing screenshot.png, File:Portal2-chamber-comparison.jpg. --Mika1h (talk) 13:47, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Update to allow for NFUR status check[edit]

Please consider replacing the current code about To the uploader with

|below={{#ifeq:{{{image_has_rationale|{{{image has rationale}}}}}}|yes|<includeonly>[[Category:Non-free images with NFUR stated]]</includeonly>|{{imbox | type = notice | image = [[File:Ambox warning blue.svg|50px|alt=Attention|link=]] | style = background:#d3edfd; |text = '''To the uploader''': # Please add a detailed '''[[Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline|fair use rationale]]''' for each use, as well as the '''source''' of the work and copyright information. # This tag should only be used for video game screenshots <br />''' To patrollers and administrators''': If this image has an 'appropriate' rationale please append <code><noiwiki>|image has rationale=yes</nowiki></code> as a paramater to the license template. }}<includeonly>[[Category:Non-free images for NFUR review]]</includeonly> }}

which enables the NFUR status to be tracked. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 19:41, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 December 2012[edit]

As far as I can tell, the change to this template made by SchuminWeb on November 19 was never discussed, and thus there was no consensus for it established. This makes it a Bold edit. I would like to take the next step in WP:BRD and Revert it, but I cannot, since I am not an admin. Therefore I request that an admin revert SchuminWeb's edit of November 19. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:56, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Please see my comment at Template talk:Non-free video game cover#Edit request on 17 December 2012. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:01, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Done. See discussion at User talk:SchuminWeb#Changes in the wording of "Non-free" templates. — Mr. Stradivarius (have a chat) 10:38, 18 December 2012 (UTC)