Template talk:Norwegian Royal Family

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His/Her Highness[edit]

Both Prince Sverre and Princess Märtha are entitled to use HH when abroad. Please see: http://www.kongehuset.no/c28433/seksjonstekst_person/vis.html?tid=28780 and http://www.kongehuset.no/c27273/seksjonstekst_person/vis.html?tid=28744 Inge 13:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Non-royal members of the royal family[edit]

"The remaining members of the Royal Family are the Crown Prince and Crown Princess’s other children, His Highness Prince Sverre Magnus and Master Marius Borg Høiby; Her Highness Princess Märtha Louise, Mr Ari Mikael Behn, Miss Maud Angelica Behn, Miss Leah Isadora Behn, Her Highness Princess Ragnhild Mrs Lorentzen, Mr Erling Sven Lorentzen, Her Highness Princess Astrid Mrs Ferner and Mr Johan Martin Ferner." (kogenhuset.no)

"The members of the Norwegian Royal House are Their Majesties King Harald and Queen Sonja and Their Royal Highnesses Crown Prince Haakon, Crown Princess Mette-Marit and Princess Ingrid Alexandra." (kogenhuset.no)

According to the official site, this template does not list members of the so-called Royal House nor the members of the Royal Family. It lists people who would be members of the royal family by "British rules" (monarch, consort, monarch's sons, daughters, daughters-in-law and male-line grandchidlren, and other princes and princesses). Although they are not royalty and they normally should not be members of the royal family, they apparently are and Wikipedia can't decide who is member and who is not. So, should we add these people to the template? Surtsicna (talk) 18:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Prince Martha Louise's daughters are in line for the Norwegian throne. They should probably be on the template even though they don't have titles. Ariadne55 (talk) 07:04, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Their place in the order of succession is not what makes them members of the royal family (eg. the Princess Royal's children are in line for the British throne, but they are not members of the royal family). They are members of the royal family because the official site says they are. Surtsicna (talk) 09:40, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
The official site says they are members so I believe they should be added to the template. - dwc lr (talk) 15:34, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Only the constitution of Norway determines whether someone is a member of the Norwegian royal house. The list on the website is very much unofficial and includes some people who are in the personal and extended family of royals, but not in any way royals, holders of any special constitutional status or members of the royal house themselves. The template should only include the actual royals, who hold either the title King, Queen, or (Crown) Prince or Princess, or those without titles who are in the line of succession (the Behn children). Norway is different from the UK, in that any royal person automatically holds the title of Prince or Princess of Norway. The Behn children is a special case, since inheritance rights to the throne for children of a princess didn't exist in the previous generation, meaning the Behn children are technically not royal, but could theoretically become so if they inherited the throne. In Norway, it is the constitution, not the king, who determines whether someone is a member of the royal house, and the only way of becoming so is by being a legitimate descendant of it or by marriage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minnatre (talkcontribs) 14:55, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

RfC notification[edit]

A request for comments which may impact this template has been started at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies#RfC on style in royal family templates. You are welcome to comment there. Fram (talk) 14:31, 31 July 2013 (UTC)