Template talk:Orthodox Hierarchs

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Shouldn't Metropolitan Herman (Swaiko) of the OCA be on this list? --Jfruh (talk) 22:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

  • I suppose that depends on who you ask. Currently the OCA's autocephaly is not recognized by all other Orthodox Churches, so that would be the argument for leaving him off the list. But they are recognized by the Churches of Russia, Bulgaria, Georgia, Poland, and Czech and Slovak lands, so that's the argument for including him. Personally, I would vote to include him. --cholmes75 (chit chat) 17:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

The addressing for a patriarch (in estern orthodoxy) it is always His Beatitude (or Your Beatitude ) His Hollines it is for Mitropolitans and archbishops. I will change back to the last version It is a exception when the metropolitan church or the archbishopric it is a autocephalous churche. For the ,,head" of that church you must adress him with Your Beatitude. Arthasfleo (talk) 13:25, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

For styles of greek orthodox clergy see http://www.goarch.org/en/special/usvisit2002/clergy/clergy_greetings.asp Orfanth (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


There appears to be a lack of uniformity, as far as the links from the abbreviations are concerned—some link to the countries and some to the churches. I will attempt to find the remaining Church links and use them in the template; most of them should exist. Waltham, The Duke of 14:36, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Metropolitan Jonah[edit]

I removed the horribly inaccurate placement of "Archbishop Demetrios (U.S.A.)" and replaced it with "Metropolitan Jonah (OCA)". Feel free to remove this, but please, for the sake of accuracy, do not replace it with Archbishop Demetrios. It is true that the OCA's autochephalousy is not universally recognized (and thus should not necessarily be there) but no one would claim that Archbishop Demetrios (as the head of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese in America), not even he himself, leads an autocephalous Church. As such, it is horribly inaccurate to place Archbishop Demetrios there as the leader of an autocephalous Church. I for one feel that Metropolitan Jonah should be listed as not only do the majority of Orthodox people recognize the OCA's autochephalousy, but also it might as well be there for the sake of being a more complete template (even if you don't agree with it). —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:22, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Could ‘other’ patriarchs be said to be ‘national’ patriarchs?[edit]

Perhaps ‘national’ sounds nicer than ‘other’? – Kaihsu (talk) 20:03, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

"Macedonian Orthodox Church"[edit]

I removed all references to the so-called "Macedonian Orthodox Church" and their "Patriarch," Stephen. Unlike the OCA, which is in communion with the rest of global Orthodoxy, even if its autocephaly is not recognized, the MOC is not in communion with any other canonical jurisdiction. The only canonical Orthodox Church within the bounds of the FYROM is the Autonomous Archdiocese of Ochrid, currently led by the (imprisoned) Metropolitan +Jovan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:58, 26 May 2013 (UTC)