Template talk:Pirates

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Add Roche Braziliano in famous pirates![edit]

This link was added to the template by [[80.53.225.74]. I don't think he is that notable so I took him off but also wanted other peoples opinion on it. I also asked 80.53.225.74 on his talk page. Deflagro Contribs/Talk 00:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Add Bill Johnston (pirate) in famous pirates![edit]

I consider him to be important enough to warrant a place in this template. He has enjoyed a certain fame since his presence on Sid Meier's Pirates. I vote yea. Witbcoedus 23:14, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

That article seems like a stub since the intro is longer than the article. Also I am in the process of redoing this template because we had a few complaints of it being intrusive. The new one will be a banner along the bottom of the page. Deflagro C/T 23:29, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
After looking at a few other articles on the template I have added Roche Braziliano Deflagro C/T 02:18, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I added Ushkuiniks to the list of types of pirates in the template. They're pirates, the article is a pain in the ass to find otherwise and maybe with some more exposure it'll get filled out more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.209.109.81 (talk) 17:40, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Thoughts[edit]

the template's looking awesome, but it's really getting huge now.. I was just wondering on the viability of creating a separate template with just a timeline of piracy - opinions? shasYarr!/T|C 09:08, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

The "famous pirates" section needs to be reduced significantly. I mean, do we really need to list every single one of them? Maybe we should just reduce the list to only the most famous ones, and direct the readers to a more exhaustive article/list. I think everyone appreciates the fact that someone tried to alphabetically organize all of the names for easier navigation, but still; the way the template looks now, it's probably the largest template I've ever seen on Wikipedia.--71.112.145.102 (talk) 18:08, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
I can't read most of the names of the famous pirates. I think that portion of the template needs to be condensed to a list. --Son (talk) 02:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Add Jack Sparrow to fictional pirates![edit]

Yeah, add Jack. He is a very popular pirate.--Carolinapanthersfan (talk) 15:45, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

As this is a wiki, you are encouraged to be bold and make the edit yourself. Best regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:49, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

also, monkey d luffy comes to mind... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.126.84 (talk) 13:57, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Could someone add Jack Sparrow to the Fictional Pirates section? Because Jack Sparrow has been in three(and soon to be four), Pirate films(Pirates of the Caribbean). Therefore, Jack Sparrow NEEDS to be in this Template. 75.91.0.219 (talk) 10:46, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Crystal Clear action edit add.png Added — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:20, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2014[edit]

Lawrence Prince 75.80.129.37 (talk) 04:06, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

  • Yes check.svg Done - no reason he shouldn't be included. Stalwart111 05:28, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 May 2014[edit]

Vincenzo Gambi 75.80.129.37 (talk) 04:41, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

  • Yes check.svg Done - no reason he shouldn't be included. Stalwart111 05:36, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 May 2014[edit]

Roche Braziliano 75.80.129.37 (talk) 04:43, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

  • Yes check.svg Done - no reason he shouldn't be included. Stalwart111 05:36, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2014[edit]

Confederate privateer 75.80.129.37 (talk) 05:25, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 14:59, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Yes check.svg Done. Request is the same as those above by the same IP editor. Not really a "type of pirate" so I've included it under Miscellaneous. Stlwart111 23:31, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Organization[edit]

This template is quite disorganized, and in its current state is not as useful as it could be. There seems to be no order in the listings. Some sections have so many articles that the listing ceases being useful. This is supposed to be a navigation template, right? --Bejnar (talk) 20:49, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Agree 100%. I've long thought that removing all fictional pirates to a separate template would be a good start. Fictional presidents aren't included in the template {{US Presidents}}. Stlwart111 00:48, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
We could also split "modern piracy" and "golden age piracy" into two different templates with "see also" notes from each. Stlwart111 00:53, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Both those ideas sound great. --Bejnar (talk) 03:50, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
I concur that it's about time this mammoth template was overhauled, it really is neither use nor ornament at this stage. It's currently taking over things that should be the preserve of categories and/or articles at the moment. I think there's scope for individual templates for the periods of piracy, types of pirate, and piracy by geographical area. The rest should not be linked by a template but collected in a category, as they already are (Famous pirates, Pirate ships, Pirate hunters, Pirate battles and incidents, and Fictional pirates.) The lists section might belong on a template, but 'Miscellaneous' and 'Literature' should be in relevant articles, and not collected by a template. As for the slave trade section, though occasionally intertwined with piracy, this is something else altogether, and just shows how this template has hoovered up far too many subjects and articles of increasingly tangential connection with each other. Benea (talk) 14:31, 14 August 2014 (UTC)