Template talk:Presidents of Argentina
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Should be reviewedKeNNy 17:48, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I think it is a mistake to call that the different sucession of democratic presidents "different republics". You have a different republic when you change the Constitution or Supreme Law (For example, France does have first, second, third, fourth and fifth different republics). Argentina has the same constitution since 1853 with some adjustements, but it has never been changed. It was supressed during the military dictatorships and restored in democratic governments. I think we have always had the same republic, not different ones.Aletano (talk) 20:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Ortiz and Castillo
They were democratically-elected presidents, they shouldnt be in the "First military dictatorship" section. Thats gotta be corrected. If there was fraud on its election is not known. Anyway, it is known that there was fraud in the elections of Roca, Juarez Celman, Figueroa Alcorta amongst others, yet they are not regarded as a "dictatorship". Aletano (talk) 20:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
The "Confederacion Argentina" bit should be revised.
- The "Pacto Federal and Argentine Confederation (1827–1862)" and "National Organization – Argentine Republic (1862–1880)" sections are wrong, mainly because they minimise the importance of the constitution of 1853.
- "Pacto Federal and Argentine Confederation (1827–1862)" is a mix-up of governors of Buenos Aires province (Dorrego, Rosas) and the first Presidents of Argentina (Urquiza, Derqui, Pedernera.
- I strongly suggest changing it to
- Juan Manuel de Rosas
- Juan Ramón Balcarce
- Juan José Viamonte
- Manuel Vicente Maza
- Juan Manuel de Rosas (There are two periods, but does he has to be mentioned twice?)
Pacto Federal: Governors of Buenos Aires (1829–1852) National Organization – Argentine Republic (1853–1880)
Pacto Federal was signed in 1929, not in 1927, thus Dorrego cannot appear there.
Urquiza was the first president of Argentina under the current constitution. he governed all the provincies except for one: Buenos Aires (and those which still didn't exist). Mitre is not the first president, although this mistake is widely repeated. He is the first president, however, to govern all of the argentinian provinces with minor constitutional changes.
I think we should have a 1st paragraph ( named perhaps first governments 1810-1814 ) including : Primera Junta, Junta Grande, First Triumvirate (Argentina) and Second Triumvirate (Argentina) --Jor70 (talk) 10:42, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
About listing acting presidents
User:188.8.131.52 points out that acting Presidents Ramón Puerta and Eduardo Camaño should not be listed, although both of them did hold office per constitutional mechanisms of succession. If the rationale for this dropping is that they were not directly elected to the office, we then should drop from the list, as well:
- acting Heads of State Ignacio Álvarez Thomas, José Rondeau, Juan Pedro Aguirre, Juan Esteban Pedernera, José María Guido, Raúl Alberto Lastiri
- Vice-Presidents that took office Vicente López y Planes, Carlos Pellegrini, José Evaristo Uriburu, José Figueroa Alcorta. Victorino de la Plaza. Ramón Castillo, Isabel Martínez de Perón;
- Not to mention every single de facto Head of State.
- And so on.
So, what is the rationale? The time spent as Head of State? I don't think that is a valid criteria.