Template talk:Surviving ocean going ships

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Mary Rose[edit]

I would dispute the inclusion of the Mary Rose on this template, she is not exactly surviving, rather what we have of her is recovered wreckage and although some of the wreck survives to this day, I would not consider her surviving in the same sense as the Cutty Sark or the Victory and she is certainly not ocean going. JonEastham (talk) 17:40, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

bumped to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject ShipsCruickshanks (talk) 16:03, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Mary Rose should be removed. Vasa also probably. 70.24.244.198 (talk) 13:14, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
When I first created this template, my intention was to try to trawl for all of the originally ocean-going 'survivors' out there. That is why I included Vasa and Mary Rose in the first revision of the template (by memory) because the very existence of those two very old ships is so significant. My use of the term "ocean going" was only intended to differentiate from the myriad of small coastal vessels out there that could swamp this template. The term "ocean going" is not intended to construe that they are still "ocean going" today. Indeed, to apply such a filter now would basically empty the majority of the ships from the template and make it rather pointless. Thus, the inclusion of Vasa and Mary Rose, as well as Cutty Sark and Victory, is fully in keeping with the initial intent of the template. I hope this helps. Cruickshanks (talk) 05:14, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Suggested additions[edit]

In the military section, I would add:

Bancki (talk) 13:03, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Good collection; I have now added Cruickshanks (talk) 00:19, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

AWB Bot[edit]

Thinking aloud, I wonder if someone who is experienced in using Bots could use a bot to append this template, in the auto-collapse state, to each of the ships in the list that do not already have the template.Cruickshanks (talk) 01:25, 14 October 2014 (UTC)