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WikiProject Biography (Rated Template-class)
WikiProject icon This template is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.
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The person icon for this template has remained the same since its creation in 2006 (File:Crystal personal.svg - a faceless, peach-skinned, presumably male person in a tie). I'd like to change the icon to reflect a different skin tone, gender, or style of dress. Perhaps we can have a woman of color icon for a while. Commons has a number of other icons in Category:People_icons or a new icon could be created. Just as an example, I think the lower image on the right (File:Etno icon.png) demonstrates how this icon could be more worldly and inclusive of different genders/ethnicities. Gobōnobō + c 19:01, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Living parameter

List-class/template class should mean that no error (Category:Biography_articles_without_living_parameter) is shown for not having a living parameter. User:GKFXtalk 17:51, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

RfC: remove the attention flag from WPBannerMeta

See the discussion here. RockMagnetist (talk) 05:26, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

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RfC: BDP in Biography template

Should the Biography template be adjusted to include the "bdp=" parameter? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:18, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

No, it duplicates blpo=yes. Maybe change the wording of blpo slightly.--Racklever (talk) 08:59, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
I don't think it does duplicate it; it doesn't neatly fit into either BLP or BLPO, as blp=yes adds it to a living persons category, whereas blpo=yes adds a banner saying "the Biographies of living persons policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article", which works for actual BLPO articles, but not articles covered specifically under WP:BDP. I think a bdp parameter might be useful, especially if we can track when it's been added so that it can be changed when an appropriate amount of time has passed. Even if that's a little too much, however, I don't think changing BLPO's wording would be beneficial for any non-BDP article. - Aoidh (talk) 09:04, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Maybe change the wording to "the Biographies of living persons policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article unless they have recently died" --Racklever (talk) 09:25, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

What do you (or anyone) see as the benefit of announcing that? The BLP banner says, in effect, "we must be especially careful with fairness and sourcing on this article." A "BLP doesn't apply" banner would say, in effect, "we can be less careful with fairness and sourcing on this article." I suppose that is true, in a sense, but I don't see much value to emphasizing the fact. Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:58, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

That's not what a BDP parameter would say, because BLP does apply to BDP articles, but the problem is that adding blp=yes to articles is also including them in a category for living people, and changing it to blpo=yes is saying that BLP doesn't apply to the subject of the article, which is inaccurate for articles of recently deceased subjects, especially controversial deaths. A bdp parameter would state that BLP applies without actually adding it to the living people category. - Aoidh (talk) 08:05, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

I am neutral on this subject - I can see Aoidh's point but I am also sympathetic to Racklever's suggestion about changing the wording. Can someone who is against BDP clarify what the downside of adding a BDP parameter would be, other than the fact that it may be somewhat redundant? It seems to me that disambiguating between different categories of BLPO is not necessarily a bad thing, we can always just have the BDP flag transclude BLPO for now, and if in the future we decide that we want further disambiguation, the pages where BDP applies will already be appropriately tagged. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 14:18, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

  • Couldn't a banner be displayed for "living=no" that explains that BLP policy may apply to this article? If people don't like that, then I guess bdp could be used. The issue doesn't seem critically important, but I guess such a feature wouldn't hurt anything. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:52, 14 September 2014 (UTC)