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Just a question[edit]

I thought this is a template for all active WWE Superstars on all three shows, not just performers who are active wrestlers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Five spice tofu (talkcontribs) 08:09, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Active/Inactive talent[edit]

So apparently they are listed by "on-screen status." This should be noted somewhere on the template or a clarification should be made about this, as DH Smith (for instance) has been inactive both on screen (and off, actually) yet remains listed as active, while Chavo has been actively wrestling house shows yet is listed as inactive (and last time I checked, the TV part of the business is not the whole business - and WWE's most recent financial reports can attest to the importance of non-televised live events). Either way, there is an inconsistency that should be addressed. --Edward Morgan Blake (talk) 10:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

The current division of active and inactive wrestlers is completely arbitrary. Guidelines should be created or the distinction should be scrapped. -- Kevin Browning (talk) 03:42, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

as far as i'm aware DH Smith is listed under inactive. Skitzo (talk) 11:26, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


COULD YA'LL COPY THIS TEMPLATE TO HERE?-- (talk) 20:41, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Why don't you do it yourself Hornetman?-- bulletproof 3:16 03:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Because, the correct templates do'nt exsist over there to do it that way. It's gotta be built by some one who knws code well enough. Keep in mind project colors over there.-- (talk) 05:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
That’s not how things work. Templates can't just be copied and pasted from one Wiki to another. You're just going to have to make a new one or work with what you have on that Wikia. -- bulletproof 3:16 05:33, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


Seeing as this is a pretty bloated template, it seems logical to me to split it up into 3 separate templates; one for each brand. Thoughts?Hezekiah957 (talk) 22:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Steve Austin.[edit]

Austin is still on the roster. There is no reason to remove him from the template. I have put him back on it. -- Kevin Browning (talk) 03:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

he may be on the roster but he only makes "special" appearences, they leave him on WWE.com so when people google him it links to their site, unless he comes back full time leave him off.Skitzo (talk) 17:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Why? The template includes all current WWE roster members. That includes Austin. Hogan is not under contract, for example, thus he is not on the roster, although he still makes special appearances. I am going to keep adding Austin unless a good reason is given not to. -- Kevin Browning (talk) 03:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Austin is not under contract, except MAYBE a films deal, DO NOT ADD him he is on the roster page under "other personel" or something like that he doesn't not need to be on the template as he DOES NOT WRESTLE, persisting in adding him COULD be seen as vandalism. Skitzo (talk) 18:25, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

If he was not under contract, they couldn't legally put him on the roster on the website. He is not under other personnel, he is right there with the others on WWE.com. Whether he wrestles or not is irrelevant, as many of the so-called full-time performers rarely wrestle on Raw either. I disagree that it's vandalism, but rather a difference of opinion. Please see WP:Civil. Thanks. -- Kevin Browning (talk) 00:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes they can they did it for years with The Rock and Hogan, he probably has a kegends contract and is working with their films department, HE IS NOT UNDER A WRESTLING CONTRACT WITH THE WWE OR ANYONE ELSE. He is under "other personnel on the roster page on here, which is how we update the template, and it would be vandalism when the vast majority agree 1 thing and ONE person keeps doing something different. Skitzo (talk) 18:41, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

It's irrelevant how he's categorized on the Wikipedia page. On WWE.com, Austin is on the Raw roster, just like all the others. It's not vandalism to follow the primary source. And once again, I would ask that you stop posting in all caps, as it's considered inflammatory. Thanks. -- Kevin Browning (talk) 18:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
I tend to agree here with Skitzouk. We should be adding anyone without a wrestling contract unless we would want to add Mae Young to the roster somewhere for her appearances. Steve Austin appears on wwe.com from mostly promotional reasons, he is under contract with the WWE Films project, but not under a contract for anything else. His minor stints of action do not call for an addition on this template. — Κaiba 22:50, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Mike Adamle[edit]

Why is Mike Adamle on the roster if he's a reporter. Bam123456789 (talk) 21:17, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Same about Jon Ross and Jerry lawler. Bam123456789 (talk) 21:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Because they are active on-screen talent on the show. — Κaiba 14:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

But why aren't all the wwe roster on there. Bam123456789 (talk) 21:11, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Alphatbetical Order[edit]

Are the wrestlers supposed to be sorted by last name or by first name? The Raw list in particular is all over the place with that. Beth Phoenix under B for Beth, but Lance Cade under C for Cade, for example. McJeff (talk) 21:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

The alphabetical order is simple:
If it is a real name, it is alphabetized by the first letter of their surname.
If it is a stage name, it is alphabetized by the first letter of their name.
Κaiba 14:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Professional wrestling#Employees templates for the recent change to the template's alphabetical order. — Κaiba 22:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Roddy Piper[edit]

Why is Roddy Piper on the Raw roster list? He is not even on WWE.com; i'm gonna remove him. Virakhvar321 (talk) 04:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


I revised the template to this:

{{Navbox |name = World Wrestling Entertainment employees |title = World Wrestling Entertainment VampireHeart♥ 11:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

The Brian Kendrick[edit]

There is no reason to overlink his name. The [[Briand Kendrick]] is the SAME INFO as [[Brian Kendrick|The Brian Kendrick]] except it takes up less space. I will point out Road Warriors and New Age Outlaws as similar articles where you always say "The" before them but leave them out of the link. Please discuss here rather than just putting it back in the article. TJ Spyke 21:16, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Since no one has raised any objections, then be default this is the consensus. TJ Spyke 15:04, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

LThe Brian Kendrick is his official ring name though. It's no actual difficulty to have the word 'The' included in the link, and it looks more correct, as the rest of the roster doesn't have parts of their name un-linked. Besides, the Road Warrior part is a stupid argument. The emphasis of his name is THE Brian Kendrick. The word 'The' was not emphasized in the Road Warriors. FOr that matter, The Big Show is fully linked and the word 'The' isn't even on his WWE.Com profile. I'm re-linking the word 'The' and it should remain that way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:33, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Not being in the link doesn't make it look any less official. How is The Road Warriors part stupid? It's the EXACT same situation. Writing "Brian Kendrick" twice just to have "The" appear blue instead of black is what's stupid. TJ Spyke 15:40, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


Remove the "Other" section. if we really need an "Other" section, than we would have to pile every single non wrestler not assigned to a brand. so this "Other" section needs to go. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:15, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Hurrican Helms[edit]

His TitanTron video says "Hurricane Helms". His on-screen graphic says "Hurricane Helms". Tony Chimel announced him as "Hurricane Helms". Matt Striker and Josh Mathews called him "Hurricane Helms". His ringname is Hurricane Helms, end of story. A compromise was put in until Truco reverted for no good reason. At most both Hurricane Helms are The Hurricane are used, but no intelligent person can say Hurricane Helms isn't one of his current ringnames. TJ Spyke 22:19, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Here's the problem, the storyline as of late is that Gregory Helms and The Hurricane are not the same person, which is why they created 2 separate profiles for them under "Gregory Helms" and "The Hurricane" [not Hurricane Helms]. The Hurricane Helms on the titantron is clearly a mess up by production, Chimel is always making mistake as are the commentators. For now all sources on WWE.com point to "The Hurricane", and recall that they just started this "split-personality" thing this past week, so I think its best to wait for this week's ECW on Syfy to see what is made of it.--Truco 503 23:16, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Matt Striker rarely ever makes mistakes. He even made a point of saying it's not known if "Hurricane Helms" and "Gregory Helms" are the same person. At the very least it should be said he uses both versions of the Hurricane name. You can't say that the TitanTron, on-screen graphic, ring announcer, and both commentators are all wrong. TJ Spyke 23:55, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
TJ, be honest with me man. Do you really think that if they were trying to pull off the storyline of "Gregory HELMS" being different from "Hurricane HELMS", don't you think they would have not used the HELMS name for the Hurricane character? --Truco 503 00:00, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
In the real world? No. But logic has no place in wrestling (do you think Jeff would really forgive Matt after Matt burned down his house, killed his dog, tried to kill him by running him over, and tried to injure him by making the pyro go off in his face?). Things may change, but as of right now they are using the Hurricane Helms name on TV. TJ Spyke 00:09, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


Just putting this here in case the IP bothers to check. There is no more DJ Gabriel. After he was sent back down to FCW over 4 months ago (which means he should not be listed on the SmackDown roster), he started dropping it. On the July 2 episode of FCW, he started wrestling as just "Gabriel" and said he wanted to get back to the basics. There is also no source that Brett DiBiase is a member of the Raw roster. Just appearing in 2 backstage promos (of which he has about 2 sentences combined) doesn't mean he will be a member. Developmental wrestlers appear on WWE TV frequently without being called up to the main roster. TJ Spyke 21:31, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Ruthless Roundtable Stable?[edit]

On WWE TV, William Regal, Ezekiel Jackson and Vladimir Kozlov have formed an alliance which has been referred to as the "Ruthless Roundtable", should this be added to the Stables and Alliance section or is it to soon? -- (talk) 00:47, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I haven't seen confirmation that it's not just a nickname for them. TJ Spyke 00:49, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
OK, fair enough. It's been noted by commentators and such that they have formed an alliance though so why not just add them in as William Regal, Vladimir Kozlov and Ezekiel Jackson? -- (talk) 01:03, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
The template is really just for a way to quickly navigate between articles. I think the alliance is already included at List of World Wrestling Entertainment employees. TJ Spyke 01:14, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Fix the Template![edit]

Can someone come and fix this template? I don't know how to fix it.--Yugiohmike2001 (talk) 03:54, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? TJ Spyke 22:09, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind. somebody had destroyed the template, but someone already fixed it. I didn't know how to fix templates.--Yugiohmike2001 (talk) 22:17, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Commentators and On-Screen Authorities[edit]

Can we move the commentators and on-screen authorities as a seperate part of the template instead of being apart of the shows they're on?--Yugiohmike2001 (talk) 19:22, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Why? They are brand specific just like the wrestlers are. TJ Spyke 19:24, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, I thought it will be simple just to have them in their own catagory because in 2008, they swapped JR and Cole, and recently as late 2009 with Vickie coming back as SD's consultant.--Yugiohmike2001 (talk) 19:34, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Montel Vontavious Porter/MVP[edit]

I think it's better to have MVP as Montel Vontavious Porter, since it's the full ring name.--Yugiohmike2001 (talk) 02:13, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, MVP is basically just a nickname and shorthand that is easier to write than "Montel Vontavious Porter". TJ Spyke 15:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Free Agents[edit]

Since the free agents section now down to five, I think it will be better to put everyone in the FCW section. Does anyone agree with me?--Yugiohmike2001 (talk) 20:47, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Only if you have a source stating they will be in FCW. TJ Spyke 20:50, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, I was thinking that because we haven't seen Tyler for months and everyone else haven't been heard of for the past three weeks since ECW folded.--Yugiohmike2001 (talk) 20:54, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Neither was Tiffany till last weeks SmackDown, or Kozlov till Raw last night. They don't seem to be moving all of them over right away. TJ Spyke 20:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
True, but I still see Abraham's, Tyler's and Vance's photos(along with Rosa's, Savannah's, Caylen's, Trent's and Serena's) on the FCW talent page, so they're back there temporary.--Yugiohmike2001 (talk) 21:03, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Curt Hawkins[edit]

Since Curt Hawkins is at FCW, can I move him to the FCW roster section until his television return?--Yugiohmike2001 (talk) 21:57, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Hide Eliminated NXT Rookie or Move Him Back to FCW?[edit]

I got a question. Since it's the first elimination on NXT tonight and there are more eliminations after tonight, are we gonna hide them or move them back to FCW until they appear on either Raw or SmackDown?--Yugiohmike2001 (talk) 00:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


I think the template should look like this:

Does anyone agree?--Yugiohmike2001 (talk) 05:23, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

The Uso's[edit]

When did they become a part of the main roster? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonslayer619 (talkcontribs) 00:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Last monday on Raw. Right after The Hart Dynasty vs. Regal/Koslov match, the duo and their valet from FCW Tamina(aka Sarona Snuka) attacked the trio and gave all three the Superfly Slam at the same time.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 00:57, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

jimmy uso[edit]

link connects to rikishi70.15.191.119 (talk) 01:03, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from, 21 July 2010[edit]


There is incorrect information on here relating to the employees of World Wrestling Entertainment Jonathanmj17 (talk) 01:10, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Help guide to help improve this template[edit]

Here is the guide to help any user to improve this template. All the links below are from the official websites of WWE and its farm FCW. There are the official ring names and brand assignments of each wrestler.

Raw brand roster: http://www.wwe.com/superstars/raw/

SmackDown brand roster: http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/

NXT rookies: http://www.wwe.com/superstars/wwenxt/

FCW roster and staff: http://www.fcwwrestling.info/talent.html / http://www.fcwwrestling.info/divas.html / http://www.fcwwrestling.info/class.html

Referees, WWE En Español and WWE.com: http://www.wwe.com/shows/espanol/ / http://www.wwe.com/superstars/wwereferees/ / http://www.wwe.com/subscriptions/wweclassics/personalities/ / http://www.fcwwrestling.info/talent.html

Unassigned employees: If someone reportedly signed a WWE contract, but did not debut yet, or if someone was keyfabe fired or injured and, therefore, removed of the roster page.

I hope this guide can be helpful to you all that want to help us to improve this template. WWEJobber (talk) 03:24, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Note: Make sure any additions abide by WP:NAVBOX which is in short only add names that have an internal article on wikipedia. STATic message me! 03:28, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Move Sin Cara to Raw[edit]

I read somewhere that Sin Cara might be heading to Raw. If it's ok, can we move him to the Raw roster? If not, should we wait until an official date is announced?--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 03:42, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

An official annoucement is the only way to go by, not dirt sheets or rumors. STATic message me! 03:47, 22 March 2011 (UTC)


Who added these colors? They are blinding. The other WWE templates don't have color and don't need it to reflect their purpose. --Truco 503 17:37, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with the colors.

This is no different than sports team templates that are done in their colors.


Come on!

Vjmlhds 03:32, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I have moved them back to what they were before.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 13:29, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

WWE Legends Section[edit]

Is a WWE Legends section actually necesary?, There could be hundereds of people who could fit in this list. Muur (talk) 20:24, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

It's a list of ACTIVE legends. The other legends are mostly INACTIVE.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 20:36, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Consensus for changing colors?[edit]

Ok, since vjm is deciding that there's nothing wrong with the colors that he chose, I am going to put it up for a consensus discussion here.

-Those colours are attrocious, and whoever changed them should feel ashamed of themselves. zzz (talk) 14:48, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I do not feel comfortable either. The default ones were good. WWEJobber (talk) 15:51, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I however, fell extremely comfortable. They spice things up a bit, and the colors have purpose (Raw = red, SD = blue, etc.. Vjmlhds 18:57, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I've modified things a bit.

I'm using a white background instead of black. It's simple, and makes the colors "pop" more.

Vjmlhds 19:11, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

You can't change things such as this without consensus first, vjm. Why do you feel that the colors need to be changed, when they have remained how they were before you made your bold changes?   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 19:13, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
I liked the colors Arc. I feel like plain's just boring.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 19:16, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Admin Note: The template has been fully protected for 1 week until the dispute is sorted out. Once consensus is reached, please feel free to request at WP:RFPP for unprotection. The Helpful One 20:54, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't really understand why people are having coniptions over this.

I added the colors because:

1. It follows the policy of sports team templates that are done in their repective colors (ex. The Lakers templates are all purple and gold, the Celtics templates are green and white, etc.) Same deal here--Raw in Red, SD in Blue, etc.

2. It dresses up a blase template. It doesn't affect the content any, it's just for looks.

So I repeat--What's the reason for the hair pulling? (And don't just say "I don't like it"--give me logical reasons, or else you're just whisting Dixie).

Vjmlhds 04:43, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Here's my objection (and I am not the only one objecting to your changes) on this, based on what you said above - The WWE is a company, and not a "team" in the vein of other sports. Therefore nothing needs to be changed here. There is no "dressing up" that needs to be done here. And, since this is a "high visibility" template, you needed to seek a consensus first, so that's what we are trying to achieve now.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 07:35, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

That is a very weak arguement. There other "non-sports" templates Look at McDonalds for example. They're in red and yellow, which are their colors (on the golden arches sign).

Vjmlhds 15:07, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Only because you made it that way. I'm sorry, but I fail to see what bug got under you to all of a sudden start changing colors on templates when they don't need to be changed.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 15:16, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Agree with Mikey's arguement. STATic message me! 23:37, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

This is pretty ridiculous... I see no problem with adding color to templates.--UnquestionableTruth-- 02:51, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
After giving this some more thought, I have decided that this is no big deal, and have requested the template be unprotected. I apologize for the trouble.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 22:42, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Hope the edit warring stops when it gets unproteccted. It doesnt matter much. Wikipedia:Don't edit war over the colour of templates. Wrestling0101 (talk) 22:50, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Unprotected as requested, as above, please don't edit war, we don't need any 3RR blocks. :) The Helpful One 22:48, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
As I said above, I have accepted that I made a mistake, and will do no further reverts on these templates with regards to the colors.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 22:57, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

I give up.

You wanna keep the default colors, keep 'em.

If that will get this thing unlocked, so we can actually update information, then so be it.

I stand down, the fight is over.

Though a lot of y'all really made a mountain out of a mole hill here.

Vjmlhds 11:48, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Remember the draft[edit]

To those it may concern...

In roughly 24 hours, WWE will have it's draft.

There's gonna be a bunch of people switching from Raw to SD and vice versa.

So the template is going to have to updated to reflect those changes.

This is a content matter, and has nothing to do with the current discussion about colors.

Just a heads up.

Vjmlhds 00:57, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Then I would suggest to whoever wants to make changes while protection is in place to make use of the Edit protected template.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 01:13, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm planning to be on here while the Draft goes down. How do I work on it while the template's on Edit protected?--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 02:14, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
I'd say just edit in a sandbox while the draft is on, and once the entire thing (including supplementary) is finished, used editprotect, and ask for it to be replaced by the changed version. Crisis.EXE 02:17, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Booker T[edit]

Why isn't he under the "Tough Enough" section? KP McZiggy (Allow Me To Introduce Myself...) 00:34, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Because he commentates on SmackDown. Plain and simple.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 00:37, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
But he's on both shows. KP McZiggy (Allow Me To Introduce Myself...) 02:22, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Let's unlock this.[edit]

Let's get this thing unlocked.

The colors are irrelevant. If y'all rather keep the default settings, then Mazel Tov, you got it.

The more important matter is updating it to reflect the draft.

Guys are coming and going all over the place, so let's unlock this bad boy so it can be up to date.

Vjmlhds 15:24, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Given the rank immaturity displayed in the last few days by a couple of editors across a broad swathe of navboxes, and the lack of any clear need for urgent updates, I don't see why unprotection is a good idea here. As suggested above, edits can be made to the sandbox and synced when complete. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 17:55, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from WWEs1fan, 26 April 2011[edit]

The WWE draft took place and we should be able to move the Superstars and Divas to their new rosters.

WWEs1fan (talk) 20:44, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

I second that...half the roster switched brands. Vjmlhds 20:55, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Here's a list of who needed to be changed.


  • Jack Swagger
  • Kelly Kelly
  • JTG
  • Drew McIntyre
  • Curt Hawkins
  • Chris Masters
  • Kofi Kingston
  • Tyler Reks
  • Beth Phoenix
  • Rey Mysterio
  • The Big Show
  • Alberto Del Rio


  • Daniel Bryan
  • The Great Khali (w/Ranjin Singh)
  • Jimmy Uso
  • Alicia Fox
  • William Regal
  • Yoshi Tatsu
  • Natalya
  • Jey Uso
  • Ted DiBiase
  • Tyson Kidd
  • Tamina
  • Alex Riley
  • Sheamus
  • Randy Orton
  • Mark Henry
  • Sin Cara

--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 22:49, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Please make the necessary changes to Template:WWE personnel/sandbox and reactivate the request. Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:27, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Sync with sandbox. Frietjes (talk) 20:46, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
What do you mean Frietjes?--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 22:34, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
He means that the edit request is to sync the live template with the sandbox (i.e., copy the sandbox version to the live template). Is this what you want? Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:53, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Oh, I don't know how to do that.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 02:06, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Let me try to be clear here (1) You asked for a protected edit, (2) MSGJ asked you to make changes to the sandbox, then reactive the request, (3) You reactivated the request here, (4) I asked if you want me to copy the sandbox to the live template, (5) you said you don't know how to do it. I didn't ask if you know how, I asked if you want the sandbox version copied to the live template. Please make any necessary changes to the sandbox, then say "please copy the sandbox version to the live template", and then reactivate the request. We are not mind readers here. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:16, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Ok. Yes, please copy the sandbox version to the live template.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 02:47, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done, we got there eventually! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:12, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Link fixes[edit]

Just minor ones. The link to WWE at the top can be simplified (it now says [[WWE|WWE]]. Also. the article for Eli Cottonwood is now at that name, so that can be fixed (currently it links to his real name, which the article used to be named). TJ Spyke 18:51, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Done. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:22, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Mikeymike2001, 29 April 2011[edit]

Jinder Mahal made his WWE debut tonight on SmackDown in a backstage segement with The Great Khali and Rajin Singh. Please move Mahal to SmackDown.

--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 04:30, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I did it, but this template is not protected? Frietjes (talk) 15:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
An addendum to this request: the link should be changed as the article was moved from Tiger Raj Singh to Jinder Mahal. NeoChaosX (talk, edits) 19:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Go ahead. Frietjes (talk) 19:55, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
The Tiger Raj Singh link still works (it's a redirect) so there isn't really a need to change that. Wrestling0101 (talk) 19:59, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Paul Bearer & Stables & Tag Teams[edit]

You guys need to put Paul Bearer under the WWE Legends category as he just reported that he has signed a new 5-year contract w/ an option for a 6th, and one more thing; under stables & tag teams you don't have "The Corre" listed probably because there ins't a page for it. They've been around for a while so someone should jump on that, I would but I can't. As a matter of fact, since you guy are so professional and have everything under categories I would add a Stables & tag Teams section too. Ok guys thanks.

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by RKOTaKeR (talkcontribs) 21:44, 5 June 2011 (UTC) 

Rearrangement of listing[edit]

I have rearranged the listing of the article to Raw / Smackdown / NXT / WWE Legends / Stables and tag teams / Tough Enough / Commentators / Referees and WWE En Español / Unassigned employees / FCW. Mikeymike2001 doesn't seem to agree. Why? The current one is Raw / SmackDown / WWE Legends / NXT / Commentators / Tough Enough / FCW / Referees and WWE En Español / Unassigned employees / Stables and Tag teams.

Here's my rationale: There are three main categories: WWE "cast", WWE "crew" and FCW. FCW should be last. FCW is the developmental territory for WWE and nobody in that category appears on WWE programming at all, therefore it should be last. Now, regarding "cast" and "crew". "Cast", the wrestlers, go first. "Crew", go second. Who are the wrestlers, the cast? Raw / SmackDown / NXT / WWE Legends / Stables and tag teams. Arrange them however you want, but these five cagetories have to be first. Who's the crew? Tough Enough hosts / Commentators / Referees / Unassigned employees. Tough Enough participants though, seem to be "cast", but they're in a separate universe anyway from Raw / SmackDown, so Tough Enough just becomes the first category after the first five.

Therefore I will be rearranging the listing to reflect "cast", then "crew", then "FCW". Starship.paint (talk) 02:20, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

The reason I've changed it back is because it's suppose to match with the WWE personnel page. Plus, you made some errors like adding another Curt Hawkins and Tyler Reks links to the Tag Team list when they already appear on the Raw section and adding a (I) to the original Sin Cara. It just looks better the old way.--Mikeymike2001 (talk) 02:34, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
I'll go to the WP:PW talk page. But the Hawkins/Reks/Cara thingy wasn't me. It was already changed. I just rearranged everything, I didn't touch the content except changing broadcast team to commentators and adding developmental to FCW Starship.paint (talk) 03:56, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Changed as per Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Professional_wrestling#Rearrangement_of_listing_of_Template:WWE_personnel. Tough Enough removed as there isn't confirmation of another season, Broadcast Team to Commentators because everyone there is a commentator, Averno removed as his there are as much reliable sources saying he wasn't signed as there are those that said he was signed. Starship.paint (talk) 11:53, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Merge the Raw/SD/NXT/Multibranded sections?[edit]

I propose merging the Raw/SD/NXT/Multibranded sections. Given the virtual end of the brand split where upper-card wrestlers from any brand appear on both Raw/SD as they wish, whereas lower-card wrestlers don't even appear on Raw/SD but on NXT/Superstars and also given that even WWE (through its newest version of its website) doesn't even bother to track which wrestler belongs to which brand, I propose we simply merge the sections.

Also, can we separate the commentators/announcers/hosts from the wrestlers... just like we separate the Spanish commentators and the referees? Starship.paint (talk) 08:11, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

I am going to make the changes based on the lack of dissent (and the presence of agreement) to them here and at the WP:PW talk page. Starship.paint (talk) 05:55, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Birth name edits[edit]

Why did you revert my last edit of this template which included the wrestlers' birth names? --Jayemd (talk) 16:55, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I didn't revert it, but what was the point of putting the birth names? Starship.paint (talk) 07:01, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Never mind, I've gotten over that. Anyway, what I meant was anybody who reverted that edit. --Jayemd (talk) 04:00, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Major changes[edit]

Before making major wholesale changes to the template, please discuss them here and try to reach a consenus.

Judging by the dates these major changes started occuring, to the naked eye they kinda look like sour grapes edits after a consensus went against somebody on the main page.

I could be wrong, but certain things just didn't look right.

Vjmlhds 20:39, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

OK...let's do this by the book.

Does anybody agree with the changes Jobber made to the template?

Put me down for no. Vjmlhds 01:16, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

OK, Jobber...you just erased this out of spite. Erasing requests for consensus just shows you don't want to play the the rules, and would rather just bulldoze your POV through here. Vjmlhds 01:50, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Vj... please try to remain objective and neutral. As for the major changes, I disagree with two and I'm on the fence with the last change. Firm 'nos to merging referees, commentators and ring announcers with other on-air personnel, as well as shifting stables and tag teams out of the main roster "group". About removing Legends' House and other legends, I'm more open to that, seeing as Legends' House has stagnated and never aired despite it being taped. Starship.paint (talk) 02:04, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Starship.paint I just put the stables/tag teams group out of the main roster group so we could list the developmental ones that may appear (like the Ascension for example) in the same place. And the referees, the commentators and the ring announcers are other on-air personnel just like the GMs and the managers. The Legends group is simply unnecessary to this template. But I am okay if my edits are not welcomed here. WWEJobber (talk) 02:17, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Okay, regarding stables, tag teams, why should we combine the developmental tag teams (rare as they may be, are there any other articles on developmental tag teams apart from the Ascension? I doubt that the Ascension article will stand against deletion given that Ascension never made it to main roster) with the main roster tag teams, when we are clearly separating the individual main roster and developmental wrestlers? Regarding the other on-air talent, it's true that the R/C/RA are other on-air talent, but the separation just makes it clearer IMO instead of lumping everyone together. Right now, the R/C/RA are distinctly and clearly separated, while the other on-air talent are the leftovers (five of six except Heyman are authority figures while Heyman and Vickie might be considered managers). About the Legends... are there sources about Legends/Ambassador contracts, apart from my current queries about Legends House? Vj? Keith? Starship.paint (talk) 09:10, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Go ahead and kill the Legends' house section, as God only knows when that will (if ever) come to pass. There are references out there discussing Legends contracts and who has them, though they may have to get peace-mealed together to get a clear picture. Vjmlhds 15:23, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Not everybody that has appeared on WWE Classics has a Legends contract. Ric Flair for instance is not under any kind of contract, as he just got done with TNA, and was brought in at the Slammys as a one shot deal. Vjmlhds 19:37, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
About Ric Flair, you have a source for that? And about the most recent edits of adding Garvin and Trish and whoever... are there sources, WWEJobber? Starship.paint (talk) 04:45, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
About Trish there are sources that dated back the last Tough Enough season (and she was expected to be a TE trainer again in the new season that will start when WWE Network debut). With a little time I can find a concrete report to post here. Jimmy Garvin works in WWE as a major colaborator since the The Triumph and Tragedy of World Class Championship Wrestling DVD and participates in the WWE Legends roundtable (a discussion roundtable composed just by Legends of course). Still waiting for the source that indicates Ric Flair as a "one shot deal". WWEJobber (talk) 09:26, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Alright, good job, at least you know of the sources, next step is to provide and list the sources in http (or, at least provide screenshots) About Trish, I don't think we should list her until the new TE season starts, after all, the last season of TE is over and WWE Network hasn't started and may never will. Starship.paint (talk) 12:30, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

I agree with you but in fact she is not just a former TE trainer. She appears on WWE TV programs on a constant basis just like Roddy Piper, Mae Young and Ron Simmons, for example. Citing the last appearances that I can remember: April 3, 2011 Raw; June 6, 2011 Raw; September 16, 2011 SmackDown; July 23, 2012 Raw (without mention all of her appearances from Elimination Chamber 2011 to WrestleMania XXVII because of her angle with Snookie). WWEJobber (talk) 20:10, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Jobber's got a point. Stratus' inclusion makes perfect sense. Nomelck (talk) 20:37, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Would you like to provide any reliable sources Jobber? Since you're the one that insists on including Her and others. Even if all those dates are true only one is from the last 12 months. Simmons appears countless times over the year and Young is 89 years old so that really is not anything to compare a young fitness model to. STATic message me! 20:41, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
You are totally wrong. I did not include her in the template. She was here a long time before. And I did not understand what is the conection between her appearances with her age. By your POV we should remove Bret Hart too because before Raw 1,000 he last appeared on September 12, 2011 Raw. And Steve Austin too because the last time he appeared Raw still had the Anonymous General Manager. Jimmy Snuka last appearance was on 2010. Kevin Nash on TLC 2011. Jimmy Hart before the "Blast From The Past SmackDown" just on SummerSlam 2011. WWEJobber (talk) 21:33, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Ain't better if we remove this template's Legends section at all instead of discussing who's got a contract and who hasn't? There aren't any sources here proving who should be removed nor who should be kept. It should work both ways right? Is better to list just the people that are really active and in storylines (like Lesnar and Johnson) and leave behind all the ones that just make guest appearances on special shows and PPVs and backstage skits and segments. Nomelck (talk) 22:01, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


Since when are Percy Watson and Derrick Bateman on the main roster? If you don't mind, they should be removed. (talk) 03:41, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

They were listed on WWE.com as main roster sometime in the past. I just checked again and they have been removed, I wasn't aware of that. Funnily enough they are not listed in the NXT roster either so maybe they are released haha Starship.paint (talk) 00:33, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

I checked again, WWE.com does not list them as CURRENT ROSTER but they appear under ALL SUPERSTARS. Certainly a level of ambiguity. Watson I'm leaning towards developmental because since the end of the "main roster" NXT Redemption, he has wholly wrestled on the developmental WWE NXT. A case for Bateman is that he's wrestled on Saturday Morning Slam versus Cesaro and Superstars since the end of NXT Redemption. Starship.paint (talk) 08:26, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

UPDATE: Watson, Bateman still not listed as "Current" on WWE.com, "Superstars" section, but only on the "NXT" section within "Superstars". That should settle it. Starship.paint (talk) 06:53, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Watson and Bateman are listed on WWE.com and ain't on NXTWrestling.com. Not developmental wrestlers for sure. They also appear on Superstars and Slam. And they travel and work live events with the main roster too. AARDJ (talk) 12:20, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Sure, they're not on the NXTWrestling page... and they're not on the CURRENT WWE roster. So they are anomalies. Working live events isn't notable (without a title change). Bateman has appeared on Superstars and Slam. Watson hasn't, so he's leaning towards developmental roster. He can't have appeared more than twice on Superstars, and that was during NXT Redemption, since then he's been stuck on WWE NXT. I thought about it more and I get your point. Problem is, they really don't fit in either category. Starship.paint (talk) 12:47, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
To clarify, yes, I got your point so I understand where you are comng from. But I don't totally agree with it because I simply think I have a point too. Watson's lack of Superstars/Slam appearances since Redemption added is too telling for me. He should be classed as developmental until he makes an appearance on one of the main roster shows since the new WWE NXT started. Unless... unless you can find footage of him appearing on Raw/SD since the new NXT started? I vaguely remember something to do with AJ/Cena but I can't confirm. Starship.paint (talk) 22:26, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
As I can remember now he appeared in last year's Great American Bash with Alicia Fox in a Damien Sandow backstage segment. It was after the new NXT season began. AARDJ (talk) 12:12, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
One backstage segment does not cconsititute inclusion. Percy should be NXT and Bateman should stay with WWE due to his appearences on SMS and Superstars. STATic message me! 21:51, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Update: http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwenxt lists Watson as WWE NXT SUPERSTARS AND DIVAS, while Bateman is WWE SUPERSTARS, DIVAS AND HALL OF FAMERS ON NXT. We were correct! Starship.paint (talk) 22:33, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
I said it here first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_WWE_personnel#Bo_Dallas LOL AARDJ (talk) 14:57, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
You said it on 19 Feb. I said it on 18 Feb... and my viewpoint hasn't changed since 27 Jan. >_> Starship.paint (talk) 11:25, 21 February 2013 (UTC)


Although there is no Wikipedia article for them, this trio are an active stable in WWE. (talk) 00:39, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello. A lot of NXT stars are not on the template.PeterMan844 (talk) 00:53, 7 April 2014 (UTC)