Template talk:Welcometest

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Remove talk-page invitation?[edit]

I suggest deleting the invitation to "ask me on my talk page." What do people think? 69.140.152.55 (talk) 01:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Because...? ➨ ЯEDVEЯS looks at danger and laughs his head off 08:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

with with?[edit]

{{editprotected}} Please modify the first sentence of the second paragraph to read just one instance of 'with'. Also, please include [[Category:Welcome templates]] just like for example Template:Welcome if possible, for easier navigation. — Ewald || contact talk | email || info user | contrib || posted on 06:29, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Soxred 93 12:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Please add an interwiki link[edit]

The link is [[mk:Шаблон:Добредојдетест]]. ktnxbye Brainmachine (talk) 14:15, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done, but you can do it yourself now. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 06:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Please add optional link to edited article[edit]

{{editprotected}} I'd like to modify this template if possible so users have the option of piping a bluelink to the article it references within the message. This would bring it into line with the wording in other similar templates and would make it clear which of the user's edits is being referred to, avoiding duplicate warnings. My suggestion is to amend the code in paragraph 2 to read:

Thank you for experimenting with our encyclopedia. The test edit you made {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{1|}}}|to [[:{{{1}}}]] }}worked, and it has been [[Help:Reverting|reverted]] or removed. Please use [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|the sandbox]] for any other tests you may want to do.

I think this suggested amendment is formatted correctly but if you do change the template please check carefully first - I'm not a natural with code. Karenjc 19:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

No consensus for such a change and it's confusing as to what should be changed. Please use Template:Welcometest/sandbox. Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 07:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I've created Template:Welcometest/sandbox with my proposed rewording, and I've set up two examples at User:Karenjc/sandbox2 to show how it transcludes in use. As you can see in the first example, if you use the new template as is, the result is identical to that of the current live version. However, if you pipe a link to an article inside the template then the template wording references it correctly, as can be seen in the second example. It's just the same as the way the vandalism warning templates at WP:UTM work.
I'm a patroller of the User Creation Log so I'm always picking up brand new users making a first, unhelpful edit. I'm also a welcomer who doesn't like biting until it's necessary. I use this template regularly to combine a friendly welcome with a gentle notice that a specific edit has been reverted as "a test". I find it deeply frustrating that the current version doesn't allow me to pipe a link to the offending edit in the text of the welcome - when dealing with new users, it's best to be as specific as possible rather than just saying "your test has been reverted". I'd be very grateful for any feedback on this proposed change - it's in line with how other similar templates operate and it would be very useful. Thanks Karenjc 19:38, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Reactivating request as suggested by MzNcBride Karenjc 15:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Done. - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 05:01, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Brilliant, thanks. Karenjc 22:37, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Signature?[edit]

Perhaps you could put a ~~~~ at the end of the template, so that people won't accidentally issue anonymous welcomes? Or else add a line to the documentation to remind people to sign? Jowa fan (talk) 05:50, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

PAGENAME[edit]

Please change {{PAGENAME}} in the first line to {{<includeonly>safesubst:</includeonly>BASEPAGENAME}}, the code from the main {{Welcome}} template. This makes the welcome message seem more personalised when the user clicks "Edit". This newbie edit demonstrates the unfriendliness of the current coding. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:51, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Skier Dude (talk) 02:45, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Linking to the Teahouse on the welcome template[edit]

Hi everyone. Those of us involved at the Teahouse pilot are interested in seeing a link to the Teahouse placed in this welcome template. This will be able to help us drive new editor traffic to the Teahouse during this pilot period, and allow us to continue to assess the pilot to the best of our ability. The welcome template is a great and powerful tool for new users, and it'd be really valuable to give new editors the choice to visit the Teahouse for assistance and community experience. I do hope that you will support this. Thank you for your consideration :) Sarah (talk) 00:00, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

See discussion on Template talk:Welcome. KillerChihuahua?!? 22:29, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Confusing text[edit]

The present text says "type {{helpme}} here on your talk page", which is often not going to get the point across. It needs to be spelled out more explicitly, e.g.: "click Edit (above) to edit this talkpage, then add {{helpme}} and click Save page (below). Someone willl show up to help you."

Error displaying article name[edit]

I just used this template to welcome an anon, but his or her changes were to 2 + 2 = 5, which didn't work when I tried to add it as the article name parameter. It's an odd article name, to be sure, but can anything be done to accommodate such articles? --BDD (talk) 16:41, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

You have to include "1=" so that the parser knows you are trying to set the first unnamed parameter: {{subst:welcometest|1=2 + 2 = 5}}. Messy! -- John of Reading (talk) 16:53, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Optional username parameter[edit]

Please add an optional username parameter to specify your own username, by changing

my talk page

to

{{{{{|safesubst:}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|[[User talk:{{{2}}}|my talk page]]|my talk page}}

Thanks. mc10 (t/c) 22:12, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Why are you using {{!}}? I wouldn't have thought it would be needed here, and if it is needed, it seems you would need to safesubst it. — This, that and the other (talk) 06:17, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
You don't need it, my bad. I copied the code from {{welcomevandal}} thinking it was necessary. I removed it in the code sample above. mc10 (t/c) 07:48, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done But I haven't updated the documentation. It's not a high priority, since Twinkle will be the main (only?) consumer of this new parameter. Thanks, — This, that and the other (talk) 08:53, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Wording[edit]

This template is a bit inconsistent: it can't decide what tone it wants to adopt. The first line is all happy: "Hello, Welcometest, and welcome to Wikipedia!" Then the second line is stern and serious: "Thank you for experimenting with our encyclopedia. The test edit you made worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do." No, we're not at all thankful for such test edits - we may as well be honest.

I propose to steal wording from {{uw-test1}} to replace the second line:

An edit that you recently made seemed to be a test and has been removed. If you want more practice editing, please use the sandbox.

How does that sound? — This, that and the other (talk) 06:15, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

No objection, so I did it. — This, that and the other (talk) 06:45, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikilink to Help page[edit]

Please make the words talk pages in the second sentence of the last paragraph into hypertext linking to Help:Using talk pages. New users may not be aware of the differences between namespaces, and the information there may help avert GF addition of signatures to their article contributions. (There may be other welcome templates giving similar advice where such links would be likewise helpful.)—Odysseus1479 03:46, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Done I've also added a few other links and cleaned up some of the code to make it consistent with other welcome templates... Still some parameters to add and whatnot, but I'll get to those later. Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} (tec) 12:05, 18 March 2014 (UTC)