Template talk:WikiProject Environment

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WikiProject Environment (Rated Template-class)
WikiProject icon This environment-related template is part of the WikiProject Environment to improve Wikipedia's coverage of the environment. The aim is to write neutral and well-referenced articles on environment-related topics, as well as to ensure that environment articles are properly categorized.
Read Wikipedia:Contributing FAQ and leave any messages at the project talk page.
 Template  This template does not require a rating on the project's quality scale.
 

Assessment[edit]

This template doesn't seem to accept class or importance assessments.--Hjal 22:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

The Class parameter is active but the Importance one is not. It was deemed that assigning an importance to an article sent the wrong message about environmental issues apparently. I do not agree and hope to have the Importance parameter assigned to the template. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 03:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Article assessment for level of Importance[edit]

Currently the WikiProject Environment template does not allow article importance to be assigned. I would like to see the Impartance level used as article assessment. To illustrate why let me give some examples:

See Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Release Version Criteria for info on article importance. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 03:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, while many problems are more imminent than others, I don't want to see minor issues to be given a less priority (as it happens daily in mainstream media) because all issues are important regardless of its magnitude. The best is to leave it as it is, which is not assigning importance to articles. OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:05, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
The assessment is for WP admin only - not a POV on the article itself. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 06:01, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Importance in any one individuals perspective needs more than 'I want' - surely all this should be discussed at the project noticeboard - you could (if anyone else was wanting to be involved) have one hell of a time arguing whether something is more important than something else - a pointless and frutiless exercise (POV and perspective could wasste so much time) - why doesnt somebody just reinstate the importance in the template (and understand it is for wikipedia purposes and not the actual issues -! ) you could create a separate in project heirarchy of importance - but to leave out the importance here is missing the point totally SatuSuro 05:14, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Changes reguested[edit]

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I'm not sure that the above constitutes a consensus to add importance ratings to the banner. As this is quite a major change for the WikiProject, perhaps this could be discussed on the WikiProject talk page first? Please replace the request if and when a consensus has been found. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:01, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I agree that there is no consensus to have the importance ranking to the main banner and I suppose they should not be used on the task forces either. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 08:33, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I disabled the editrequest. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 12:10, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Sustainability task force[edit]

I have created Wikipedia:WikiProject Environment/Sustainability task force. I would like to see the tf 1 parameter enabled so the approp articles can be added to the task force. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 04:53, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Sure. What parameter do you wish to use to trigger the taskforce? (e.g. sustain or sustainability or ... ?) Do you want quality or importance ratings for the taskforce? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:55, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Use "sustainability" and include both quality and importance ratings. Use File:Sustainable development.svg as the image. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 08:12, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Portal image[edit]

Can we have my nice waterfall picture used in the portal box? That image seems to have become a default for the portal. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 04:35, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Can you link to the image please? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:54, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
File:Devils Punchbowl Waterfall, New Zealand.jpg. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 07:57, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Crystal Clear action edit add.png Added — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:05, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Climate change task force[edit]

As with the Sustainability task force can we please get the tf 1 parameter enabled for Wikipedia:WikiProject Environment/Climate change task force. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 22:45, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, but more information is needed - see questions above in the sustainability section. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:57, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Use "climate change" and include both quality and importance ratings. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 08:12, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Add three task forces to the template[edit]

{{Editprotected}} I would like to see Wikipedia:WikiProject Environment/Climate change task force, Wikipedia:WikiProject Environment/Sustainability task force and Wikipedia:WikiProject Environment/Environmental Record Task Force added to the template. Since there is no consensus on the use of the importance parameter we can only use the class parameter. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 10:20, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay I will add them now, but a note for the future: an occasional please and thank you wouldn't go amiss. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Crystal Clear action edit add.png Added. If you need to make any adjustments, please make them in the sandbox copy and then replace the request. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:48, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you... Face-smile.svg -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 05:54, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Change link to better target[edit]

The piped link to natural environment should go to the more appropriate environment (biophysical). -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 07:51, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure. On environment (biophysical) it says "The biophysical environment can be divided into two categories: the natural environment and the built environment, with some overlap between the two." but, checking a few links at random, a lot of built environment topics don't seem to be covered by this Wikiproject. Tra (Talk) 02:41, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I'll deactivate the request for now because this doesn't look like an obvious change. Tra (Talk) 07:20, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Tweak text and links[edit]

Remove "See WikiProject Environment and the Wikipedia:Contributing FAQ." and replace it with "Read Wikipedia:Contributing FAQ and leave any messages at the project talk page." Gets rid of a repeated link and adds the useful talk page link. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 22:48, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Tra (Talk) 08:09, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Display importance[edit]

The template does not currently display articles' importance rating, and the rating's addition would make it easier for the WikiProject to prioritize. The discussion above demonstrates that article importance is (or at least appears to be) not displayed only because of the opinions of a single user. I've made the appropriate additions to the template in the sandbox. Karmos (talk) 04:58, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

I agree that we should enable the importance parameter. The parameter is already added on some of the articles but does not show in the article assessment pages. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 05:50, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Given the number of editors who have expressed surprise at the lack of the importance parameter it seems we have a consensus foe the change. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 05:52, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Not done: This seems like a reasonable change to me, but I'm not sure that there is a consensus for it from the discussions above. The discussions on this page took place a long time ago (2009 and 2010) and did not involve many editors, so members of the project might not be aware of them. Could you start a discussion about this on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Environment? If there is a consensus to add the importance scale after it has been open for a week or so (actually, a little more would be best as it is Christmas now), please reactivate the edit protected template and someone can implement the change. Best regards — Mr. Stradivarius (have a chat) 09:58, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
Done. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 19:50, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Support displaying the importance parameter. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 22:26, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

It's been a month now with only shows of support, so I'm reactivating the edit request. Karmos (talk) 19:35, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Done and six cats created. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:38, 26 January 2013 (UTC)