Template talk:WikiProject United States

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
WikiProject United States (Rated Template-class)
WikiProject icon This template is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
 Template  This template does not require a rating on the project's quality scale.
 

No Wikiproject CA option? --- Edit request[edit]

A number of states are available in the template to quickly and easily add a condensed form of their template to the Wikiproject US template, California for whatever reason is not among them. Can someone add a variable to link to Wikipedia:WikiProject_California as one of the states and add it where appropriate to the list in the instructions? It strikes me as a pretty glaring oversight that there are a ton of states listed and yet California is off the list in the instructions and not included in the template as an option (the template just ignores it). Cat-fivetc ---- 05:57, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Whoever decides to answer this request, I'd appreciate a note on my talk page when this request is answered. Thanks. Cat-fivetc ---- 06:12, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
I believe it's because CA uses it's own banner, {{WikiProject California}}, rather than the shared one. -- WOSlinker (talk) 08:41, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
That's disappointing if true because having to find every state's banner, especially when an article might fall into multiple state's wikiprojects is more difficult than just using a single template option. Cat-fivetc ---- 17:28, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit protected}} template. The last I heard, it was the plan to separate out most (if not all) of the state WikiProjects, since many of them had been incorporated into this template without consensus. It's also one of the most complex of all WikiProject banners, and I sympathise with the desire to simplify it. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:57, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Actually the argument that there was no consensus is a complete fallacy and really pisses me off. The actual fact is most of the projects relating to US are completely dead. There is zero activity. None. That's why I added them, to try and breath some life into them. But people that didn't have anything to do with any of these projects started complaining and it turned the project's talk pages into a constant fight. Many of those were admins. So now, these projects are can be broken out and they can die individually. Because no one wants to collaborate. So after personally spending several years and thousands of hours to make this and the other projects work, my opinion is let them and the rest of Wikipedia die. Unless people are willing to work together and the admins are willing to do get off their ass and do more than just bog down the processes with bureaucracy and red tape then they should quite and just go read a book. Because the vast majority of the admins on this site either don't do anything or wait until somebody else does the work for them to implement. I have no respect for a great many of them and I don't care that they feel the same about me. I did 10, 000+ edits a month; they did nothing but implement others work and bitch. Kumioko (talk) 01:25, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
This should be non-controversial as long as most other states have the same option as long as it is technically variable. I don't know, and I don't particularly care about any movement to change the way things are done vis a vi separate templates for each state but common sense would seem to suggest that allowing people to use one template with multiple options is easier than hunting down and putting in multiple templates, not to mention being much less space consuming in the wikicode. Cat-fivetc ---- 17:28, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Don't get your hopes up about it being non-controversial; there was quite a lot (from more than two sides) on Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 September 11#Template:WikiProject United States. So I would like to see at the very least clear consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject California, ideally also at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States. Without both of those being on board, I do not think that it would be productive. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:05, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm just going to give this up. Thank you for the respectful and at least informative replies Redrose. Cat-fivetc ---- 00:37, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Future-Class support[edit]

Since Future-Class is being used in many projects, I was expecting that WP US would support it too. I just created a category for it for use in WP Louisville, but the WP US template doesn't seem to support 'Future' for the class. Could someone please add support for this class to the template? Stevie is the man! TalkWork 17:56, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

The actual edit needed to do this is simple: just add |future=yes to Template:WikiProject United States/class. However, it's full prot, and previous changes to the workings of {{WikiProject United States}} have been controversial, so, has this been discussed by the WikiProject and consensus to add been reached? --Redrose64 (talk) 19:22, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
I can't imagine this being controversial, as it's already commonly used, but I will start a discussion on this. Thanks. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 20:48, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Edit request[edit]

WikiProject Latinos has now been merged with WikiProject United States as a task force. WikiProject Mexican-Americans has also been turned into a sub-task for the Hispanic and Latino Americans, so the banner needs to be updated. Erick (talk) 17:08, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Magiciandude please provide a complete and specific edit that you would like performed on this template (right below this line, put the before/after text you would like) then reactivate this request. — xaosflux Talk 18:57, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Xaosflux I need the Hispanic and Latino American task force to be added to this banner and for Mexican-Americans to updated as a task force as a sub task for this template. Erick (talk) 19:04, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please make your requested changes to the template's sandbox first; see WP:TESTCASES. Also, per several threads above, please demonstrate that there is consensus for this change. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:13, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Note, I just synced the sandbox, feel free to ping here after updating. — xaosflux Talk 19:16, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
This was discussed at WT:COUNCIL. Erick (talk) 19:26, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @Xaosflux:, I have updated the sandbox for the task forces. I had opened this discussion on both WT:COUNCIL and the WikiProject United States without any objections from either talk page. Erick (talk) 16:46, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Magiciandude, Template:WikiProject United States/sandbox does not appear to have been changed since last synced, what exactly do you want done? — xaosflux Talk 17:45, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
xaosflux, Oops, I changed the docs for the template, I thought that's you meant by sandbox. I'm terribly sorry for the confusion! Erick (talk) 17:54, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
xaosflux, Okay, I have made the changes to the sandbox to show what I'd like to see done. Again, sorry for the inconvience. Erick (talk) 19:28, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Yes check.svg Done Synchronized the sandbox to the template. — xaosflux Talk 20:28, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
It looks like this may have had to be reverted, I can work on it for you.Funandtrvl (talk) 22:27, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
I've fixed it, the number changes needed to include Indiana-Indianapolis also. (There were two TF "9"s. Also, this template had to be fixed: Template:WikiProject Latinos, and the backlinks will show the talk pages using that template, and a lot of them will have two "WikiProject USA" banners now, that have to be cleaned up. Funandtrvl (talk) 23:58, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your help! Erick (talk) 00:00, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Indiana articles[edit]

Pages tagged as part of the Indiana project (IN=yes) are no longer being added to Category:WikiProject Indiana articles. See Talk:Lochry's Defeat as an example. This appears to have happened with the last edit. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:17, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

JLaTondre, Magiciandude I have undid the last update as it is suspected of introducing an error. Please review this in detail, test, and then put forth a new edit requested if desired. — xaosflux Talk 01:23, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
xaosflux I shouldn't do it. I'm not good at templates and I made a terrible mistake. I'm at loss on what to do here. Erick (talk) 02:27, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Mistakes happen, and its probably a tiny little error, obvious not intentional, don't beat yourself up about it! Ping some other people that have worked on this template (check it's history) and ask for assistance, they will likely show up to help. — xaosflux Talk 03:03, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Okay, will do. Thanks. Erick (talk) 03:14, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 October 2014[edit]

Can WikiProjects New York, New York – New York City, and New Jersey be added? The template is missing these. Thanks. – Epicgenius (talk) 00:38, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

This is a complex template, please syncronize the sandbox and make your tests their first, after validating, reactivate the edit request tag. — xaosflux Talk 02:49, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
The problem is that the code is very complex, and I have never successfully edited one of these WikiProject templates before. I will try, but I may get the code wrong. Epicgenius (talk) 02:56, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

I have updated the code at Template:WikiProject United States/sandbox. The edit request above still applies. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:38, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I will work on it for you, it looks like we have to add the Hispanic TF to it also. Funandtrvl (talk) 22:28, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
I just added the MexAm TF and Hispanic TF, and I've changed my mind about adding NY and NJ to this template. I would recommend that you get a consensus first at WT:USA about adding the NY and NJ WikiProjects to this template. It is a very big and unruly template, and hard to update (believe me!). I'm also concerned that it might be too big, with all the articles linking to it. I'm not sure what the "max out" number of parameters or links is. I don't see any benefit to adding some of the bigger U.S. state projects to it. So, I shall keep it as is, right now. Funandtrvl (talk) 00:10, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
If you look at the archives for this page, you'll see that a number of changes turned out to be controversial; and there were also discussions on other pages regarding the undesirability of merging the WikiProject banners for individual states. IIRC NJ & NY were two of those where merging was not wanted. In some of my responses on this page I have turned down requests because there was no indication of consensus either at WT:WikiProject United States or at the corresponding page for the state; see e.g. #No Wikiproject CA option? --- Edit request above. --Redrose64 (talk) 07:29, 14 October 2014 (UTC)