The Hollywood Saloon

The Hollywood Saloon

Hosting	Andy Siems, John Jansen
Language	English
Audio format	MP3
Debut	22 August 2005
Website	http://www.hollywoodsaloon.com/
No. of episodes	41

The Hollywood Saloon is a film podcast hosted by Andy Siems and John Jansen. The show debuted 22 August 2005 [1].

Description

Each episode features an in-depth discussion of one or more film-related topics. A given episode might focus on the creative output of a favorite director (Spike Lee, Tony Scott, and David Fincher have received this treatment). Other episodes consider the financial side of the movie business, as in the three-part series "Apocalypse Hollywood." [2] Generally the hosts avoid giving their review of a single film during a regular Hollywood Saloon show, preferring to maintain a more historical perspective than would a movie review podcast; occasionally, however, they have opted to give their opinion on a single film in the Special Edition episodes. Another common theme of the show has been fan-powered, technology-enabled cinema phenomena, such as "the fan edit" and the digital filmmaking revolution, [3] taking a cue from director Francis Ford Coppola who is quoted in Hearts of Darkness: A Filmmaker's Apocalypse as saying

For me the great hope is now that 8-millimeter video recorders are coming out, people who normally wouldn’t make movies are going to be making them. And that one day a little fat girl in Ohio is going to be the new Mozart and make a beautiful film with her father’s camcorder. For once the so-called professionalism about movies will be destroyed and it will really become an art form.

The podcast is characterized by high production values, in the form of background music (often taken from the soundtrack to the film undergoing discussion), audio clips from interviews, documentaries, etc., and dramatic and/or humorous sound effects. The Saloon is also known for a tendency to be much longer than the average podcast. In a number of instances, the podcast has approached and occasionally exceeded two hours in length. These qualities, along with the hosts' busy work schedules, have caused relatively long delays between the release of new full-length episodes, up to two months in some cases.

In order to alleviate the long waiting period for listeners of the show, the podcasters have created a series of alternate show formats as stopgap "extensions of the Hollywood Saloon brand":

• The "Rough Cut" series, an "experiment" begun in January 2007, is devoted to recent movie news and off-the-cuff movie chat [4]. These episodes average about one hour in length.
• The "Special Edition" series, often a review of a single film, such as the infamous evaluation of X-Men: The Last Stand, which lasts nearly as long as the movie itself.
• Saloon Shots, a series of shorter episodes about concentrated topics, often limited to a quick thirty minute length.
• S.I.B.S ("Self Indulgent Bullshit"), comprising topics considered by Siems and Jansen to be irrelevant to normal Hollywood Saloon subject matter.
• Commentary Tracks, beginning with a feature-length, scene-specific discussion of Raiders of the Lost Ark [5].

Hosts

• Andy Siems (the primary force behind the graphics and website, Siems is also the director of a number of music videos)

• John Jansen (nicknamed “The Human Movie Database” for his encyclopedic knowledge of cinema, Jansen has been making films since 1984, having directed two feature films and multiple commercials, music videos, documentaries and more. His listing on the Internet Movie Database)[6]

The podcast came about from the hosts', who met at Stephen F. Austin State university in Nacogodoches, Texas in 1987, long-distance telephone discussions revolving around movies. [7]

History

• On Sunday, October 7, 2007, Episode 34 - "Art of Commentary" premiered on the internet radio station TalkRadioX. The Hollywood Saloon kept the Sunday evening time slot, allowing for listeners to chat online during the broadcast, with the intent of possibly broadcasting a live show through the channel [8].

• In Early 2008, The Hollywood Saloon ended its relationship with TalkRadioX and no longer broadcasts their show on the Network.

• In November 2008, after only releasing three shows in 2008, The Hollywood Saloon offered five new shows for a $15 donation fee through PayPal. This promotion was the only way to hear "DARK KNIGHT Rising", "The Need for SPEED", "DC vs. Marvel: Battle III", "Format Wars II: Not on DVD" and "Fan Driven".

• December 10, 2008 - Andy Siems announces that he has quit The Hollywood Saloon, ending their three year run.

• February 1, 2009 - Andy Siems announces his new film related podcast titled "APOCALYPSE HOLLYWOOD"[9]. New Episodes are planned and expected to start releasing before the end of February.

• May 8, 2009 - The Hollywood Saloon Rides Again!! The re-opening of the saloon.

Episode guide

• Episode I - "Summer Wrap Up Part 1" Release Date: August 22, 2005 - Length: 47:59

• Episode II - "Summer Wrap Up Part 2" Release Date: August 26, 2005 - Length: 38:16

• Episode 3 - "Apocalypse Hollywood" Release Date: September 2, 2005 - Length: 1:11:55

John and Andy take a detailed look at how Hollywood is suffering under the weight of it s own failed practices and just how it might be able to save itself from complete Box Office destruction. Even if they wanted to fix things, would they?

• Episode 4 - "Digital Addiction: TV on DVD" Release Date: September 14, 2005 - Length: 1:08:18

TV Shows on DVD are becoming a national addiction. John and Andy dig into this new trend, focusing on its addictive nature and ask why we can not just put down our remotes. Shows like ALIAS, 24, SMALLVILLE, LOST and THE WEST WING act as Digital Crack.

• Episode 5 - "McMovies: Fast Food Filmmaking" Release Date: September 27, 2005 - Length: 1:08:51

Formula driven, pre-packaged and developed for opening weekend grosses and DVD, the McMovie is Hollywood's tainted Happy Meal. Listen as John and Andy go searching for a full meal deal.

• Episode 6 - "Chasing Serenity" Release Date: October 4, 2005 - Length: 58:34

Join John and Andy as they follow the crew of Serenity on their maiden cinematic voyage. Will this be a GEEKS ONLY trip or will Serenity be the next big thing in Sci-Fi?

• Episode 7 - "SOLD OUT: The Decline of Movie Marketing" Release Date: October 15, 2005 - Length: 1:05:20

• Episode 8 - "DOMINO EFFECT: The Fire of Tony Scott" Release Date: October 19, 2005 - Length: 1:37:18

Spanning a directing career of 23 years and 13 films, Tony Scott has directed some of the world's favorite movies. From the pop action of Top Gun to the stylized grit of Man on Fire, Scott has left a huge mark on the modern cinema canvas. Andy and John look at his entire body of work including his latest entry DOMINO.

• Episode 9 - "DVD RIP-OFF" Release Date: October 28, 2005 - Length: 1:37:42

Considering RE-BUYING that new edition of your favorite movie on DVD? Think again as it may not be the last time your asked to shell out your cash for the same flick. John and Andy look at the many ways that studios try to trick us into re-purchasing things we already own. Don't fall for the DVD RIP-OFF !!!!

• Episode 10 - "STAR WARS vs STAR WARS" Release Date: November 5, 2005 - Length: 1:45:52

Film vs. Film - Trilogy vs. Trilogy - Original vs. Special Edition - John vs. Andy. Join us at the Saloon as we celebrate the Saga by digging deep into all things Star Wars. The Good, the Bad and the Ewoks.

• Episode 11 - "RECYCLE HOLLYWOOD: Remakes" Release Date: November 19, 2005 - Length: 1:40:24

Rewind. Reinvention. Reimagining. Redux. Remake!!! Join John and Andy as they dig deep into the roots of Hollywoods continuing fascination with re-creating old films into potential new blockbusters. What makes a good remake? How long until a remake is necessary? Where will it end? Recycle!

• Episode 12 - "Kiss, Kiss, SHANE BLACK" Release Date: November 27, 2005 - Length: 1:15:09

EXT. SALOON - DUSK, Writer/Director Shane Black prepares to enter the Hollywood Saloon, his fingers twinkle cautiously over his .9 Millimeter Baretta resting quietly in its holster. Saloon Gunslingers, John and Andy enter, camera right, guns drawn.....

• Episode 13 - "LOCKDOWN: Welcome to Movie Jail" Release Date: December 12, 2005 - Length: 1:23:09

• Episode 14 - "MasterClass: David Fincher" Release Date: December 17, 2005 - Length: 2:07:40

• Episode 15 - "Apocalypse Hollywood II: Meltdown 2005" Release Date: January 14, 2006 - Length: 1:41:09

• Episode 16 - "Paper Cinema: Lights, Camera, Read" Release Date: March 16, 2006 - Length: 1:44:24

• Episode 17 - "Legacy: What Will Endure?" Release Date: March 27, 2006 - Length: 1:40:59

• Episode 18 - "InSide SpiKe: By Any Means Necessary" Release Date: April 11, 2006 - Length: 2:03:37

• Episode 19 - "GUILTY PLEASURES: Theater of Shame" Release Date: April 26, 2006 - Length: 1:52:38

• Episode 20 - "LOST IN SPIES: The Abrams Files" Release Date: May 12, 2006 - Length: 1:46:49

• Episode 21 - "SABOTAGE: The Media's War Against Hollywood" Release Date: May 23, 2006 - Length: 1:15:11

• Episode 22 - "DC vs. Marvel: Battle I" Release Date: June 14, 2006 - Length: 1:32:52

• Episode 23 - "The Final Cut" Release Date: June 27, 2006 - Length: 1:59:46

• Episode 24 - "DC vs. Marvel: Battle II" Release Date: August 4, 2006 - Length: 2:14:44

• Episode 25 - "LITTLE FAT GIRL: The Future of Cinema" Release Date: September 6, 2006 - Length: 1:54:56

• Episode 26 - STAR WARS @ Home" Release Date: September 14, 2006 - Length: 1:39:50

• Episode 27 - "Apocalypse Hollywood III: The Shift" Release Date: November 15, 2006 - Length: 1:56:31

• Episode 28.1 - "BOND NEVER DIES: The Saga of 007 Part 1" Release Date: December 3, 2006 - Length: 1:57:25

• Episode 28.2 - "BOND NEVER DIES: The Saga of 007 Part 2" Release Date: January 10, 2007 - Length: 2:02:23

• Episode 28.3 - "BOND NEVER DIES: The Saga of 007 Part 3" Release Date: August 13, 2007 - Length: 1:40:06

• Episode 28.4 - "BOND NEVER DIES: Quantum of Solace" Release Date: June 20, 2009 - Length: 2:11:06

• Episode 29 - "The Fan Edit" Release Date: January 25, 2007 - Length: 1:49:58

• Episode 30 - "FORMAT WARS" Release Date: March 9, 2007 - Length: 1:56:42

• Episode 31 - "FURY ROAD: Car Chases @ the Movies" Release Date: April 6, 2007 - Length: 2:24:07

• Episode 32 - "STYLE: Film Grammar at the Movies" Release Date: June 3, 2007 - Length: 1:46:38

• Episode 33 - "APOCALYPSE HoLLyWood 4: The Summer Pass" Release Date: September 28, 2007 - Length: 1:41:24

• Episode 34 - "Art of Commentary" Release Date: October 15, 2007 - Length: 2:45:47

• Episode 35 - "HALLOWEEN: The Shape of Fear" Release Date: November 11, 2007 - Length: 2:50:23

• Episode 36 - "Early Works Release Date: January 15, 2008 - Length: 3:57:29

• Episode 37 - "The Temple of Jones" Release Date: July 2, 2008 - Length: 2:09:35

• Episode 38 - "Fertile Cinema" Release Date: May 8, 2009 - Length: 1:35:29

• Episode XX - "Fan Driven" Release Date: Unreleased - Length: 1:56:37

• Episode XX - "DC vs. Marvel: Battle III" Release Date: Unreleased - Length: 1:41:10

• Episode XX - "Format Wars II: Not on DVD" Release Date: Unreleased - Length: 57:00

• Episode XX - "The Need for SPEED" Release Date: Unreleased - Length: 2:28:09

• Episode XX - "DARK KNIGHT Rising" Release Date: Unreleased" - Length: 2:20:53

• Episode 39 - "Apocalypse Hollywood VI: Expanding the FILMverse" Release Date: March 1, 2010

• Episode 40 - "Face-Off" Release Date: December 1, 2010

• Episode 41 - "Never Happened" Release Date: December 25, 2010

Special Edition Episodes

• "Wall of Heroes: Part I" Release Date: March 4, 2006 - Length: 1:46:55

• "X-MEN: THE LAST STAND Review" Release Date: May 31, 2006 - Length: 1:41:59

• "SUPERMAN RETURNS Review" Release Date: June 29, 2006 - Length: 1:35:35

• "Summer Movie Rant 2006" Release Date: August 10, 2006 - Length: 1:41:42

• "ALIAS: Endgame" Release Date: January 15, 2007 - Length: 1:17:58

• "ZODIAC Review" Release Date: March 6, 2007 - Length: 57:20

• "300 Review" Release Date: March 12, 2007 - Length: 53:16

• "The Good, The Bad & The Ugly 2006" Release Date: March 12, 2007 - Length: 2:27:15

• "GRINDHOUSE Review" Release Date: April 12, 2007 - Length: 1:48:21

• "SPIDER-MAN 3 Review" Release Date: May 13, 2007 - Length: 1:36: 47

• "The Good, The Bad & The Ugly 2007: Part 1" Release Date: April 17, 2008 - Length: n/a

• "The Good, The Bad & The Ugly 2007: Part 2" Release Date: May 3, 2008 - Length: n/a

• "IRON MAN 2" Release Date: May 19, 2010 - Length: 2:09:51

• "LOST: Endgame" Release Date: June 7, 2010 - Length: 1:49:56

Rough Cut

• "Episode 1" Release Date: January 29, 2007 - Length: 55:03

• "Episode 2" Release Date: February 2, 2007 - Length: 1:21:40

• "Episode 3" Release Date: February 23, 2007 - Length: 1:15:16

• "Episode 4" Release Date: April 30, 2007 - Length: 1:08:43

• "Episode 5" Release Date: August 14, 2007 - Length: 47:40

• "Episode 6" Release Date: November 22, 2007 - Length: 1:12:54

• "Episode 7" Release Date: March 19, 2008 - Length: 1:28:28

Saloon Shots

• "Saloon Shots 1" "3D Hustle"

• "Saloon Shots 2" "Archived?"

• "Saloon Shots 3" "Senequelphobia"

• "Saloon Shots 4" "IronHyinitas"

• "Saloon Shots 5" "Down Rated"

• "Saloon Shots 6" "Fake to the MAX"

• "Saloon Shots 7" "Released"

• "Saloon Shots 8" "Again With The Indy?"

• "Saloon Shots 9" "CGI PORN"

• "Saloon Shots 10" "Disney + Marvel"

• "Saloon Shots 11" "Cronenberg FLYS Again"

• "Saloon Shots 12" "Rat Branded"

• "Saloon Shots 13" "Spider-Man 4ever"

• "Saloon Shots 14" "28 Days Later"

• "Saloon Shots 15" "The Big Apple"

• "Saloon Shots 16" "WannaBe 3D"

• "Saloon Shots 17" "Megan's Law"

• "Saloon Shots 18" "Marvel Madness"

S.I.B.S. (Self-Indulgent Bullshit)

• "S.I.B.S. 1" "Podcast Length"

• "S.I.B.S. 2" "How We Record"

• "S.I.B.S. 3" "Saloon Origin Story"

• "S.I.B.S. 4" "Geek Out!"

• "S.I.B.S. 5" "..Ya Know.."

• "S.I.B.S. 6" "The Podcast Community"

• "S.I.B.S. 7" "Movie Websites"

• "S.I.B.S. 8" "Christmas Spectacular 2006"

• "S.I.B.S. 9" "WTF Happened to the Saloon?"

• "S.I.B.S. 10" "BS'N with Randy"

• "S.I.B.S. 11" "2008 Up"

• "S.I.B.S. 12" "Dealing with Criticism"

• "S.I.B.S. 13" "FORE!"

Commentaries

• "Raiders of the Lost Ark"

• "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom"

• "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade"

• "Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace"

• "Blade Runner: Director's Cut" Forum Exclusive

Award Nominations

Nominated in 2006 and 2007 for a Podcast Award in the Movies/Films category [10].

Nominated in 2006 for a Podcast Peer Award in the Arts/Entertainment category [11].

References

• Campus Circle: Screen Shots - The Hollywood Saloon (by Zach Hines)

External links

• Official Website
• Green Mill Filmworks: John Jansen
• The Hollywood Saloon's YouTube videos
• Film "mainly ETC." IMDB page
• Film "Pink Floyd The Wall Redux" IMDB page