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Trade Me
Trademe logo
Trade Me main page
Trade Me page as of July 2009
URL http://www.trademe.co.nz
Type of site Auction site
Registration Free
Owner Trademe Ltd/Fairfax Media
Created by Sam Morgan
Launched 1999
Alexa rank 1110 (3rd in New Zealand)

Trademe, managed by the company Trade Me Ltd, is the largest (in terms of membership, number of auctions and traffic) Internet-auction website operating in New Zealand as of 2009. New Zealand entrepreneur Sam Morgan founded the site in 1999, and after some years of overall dramatic growth sold it to Fairfax in 2006 for NZ$750 million. Trade Me Ltd also operates several sister websites including Find Someone, Old Friends, Travelbug, and Safe Trader.

TradeMe's website is the second most visited in New Zealand after Google New Zealand, and is ranked 1095th globally according to Alexa Internet.[1] As of 2006, the group of sites collectively generate over 60% of all web traffic originating in New Zealand. [2] In a country with a population around 4,177,000,[3] the TradeMe site currently has around 2,150,000 active members[4], with approximately 70,000 people online and 1,250,000 auctions running during peak hours.[3]

Participating traders primarily use New Zealand's banking system to settle payments, although Trade Me now offers larger sellers the ability to accept credit card payments. Australian sellers must have a New Zealand bank-account, while sellers from other countries are not allowed on the site, which reduces the potential for fraud. Many buyers pay cash on pickup with larger items — probably partially due to the relative concentration of the New Zealand population in a relatively small number of urban areas.

TradeMe shares many features with other online auction-websites, such as eBay. Some of these features include "Buy Now", "Auto bidding" and the Safe Trader escrow service. Members in New Zealand can become "Address Verified" by confirming their street-address, and sellers may choose to block unverified members from bidding. Significantly, despite its global reach, eBay failed to make a sizable penetration in the geographically isolated New Zealand market.

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[edit] History

[edit] Origins and early development

A former TradeMe logo from October 1999

Sam Morgan founded TradeMe during the first few months of 1999, constructing the site while working full-time for Deloitte as a technology-consultant. Within Deloitte, Morgan worked on Internet projects and supply-chain issues.[5] During this time he witnessed the successes of online businesses like eBay, Yahoo etc, as well as the disasters of the dotcom bubble.

TradeMe founder Sam Morgan at Webstock 2008

According to TradeMe legend,[6] Morgan, then 23 years old, decided to found the TradeMe site when, despite searching online, he could not find a heater for his flat in Wellington. The Trade & Exchange site had a heater for sale, but held back listings for a week before publishing them online, and by the time Morgan made contact with the heater's owner, the item in question had already sold.

Morgan describes the initial designing and building of TradeMe thus:

"Some time later we were in a backpackers in Sydney and got evicted because it was overbooked. We went up to some backwater because it was the only accommodation we could find. Anyway, there was nothing to do, so that night I started drawing a data model. So it sort of started there really. Then when I came back to Wellington I literally sat on the couch and built the site on a laptop over a five- or six-week period." [6]

The site went online in March 1999 after Morgan pulled together as much funding as he could. It gained 155 members in its first week on the Internet.[6] In its early stages Morgan humorously listed TradeMe for sale on eBay with a $1 million buy-now price. Though eBay withdrew Morgan's auction, the prank sparked some interest among New Zealanders who realized the potential of online trading.

TradeMe developed slowly initially, because its founder had little funding to pay for the costs of hosting and of expanding the site. In addition, TradeMe initially offered a completely free service for both buyers and sellers, a strategy for expanding its member-base at the cost of short-term revenue. With little money and time available to work on the site, Morgan made the critical decision to sell almost half of his new company to his former Deloitte colleagues, bringing him around $75,000.

By August 1999 membership had risen to 3500, and Morgan could dedicate most of his time and funding to the site. The early strategy for TradeMe involved simply increasing its user-base and encouraging members to refer their friends to the site. TradeMe launched the Safe Trader escrow service about this time.

For a snapshot of TradeMe's early development see the Internet Archive's TradeMe archive.

[edit] Growth and expansion

eBay proved unsuccessful in its 2001 effort to expand into the New Zealand market

In its early years TradeMe continued to struggle, slowly increasing its user-base, but facing financial challenges. The site initially used web-banners, but falling prices for advertising made web-banner revenue insufficient to cover expenses. TradeMe then introduced fees for auction services: first for features such as bold titles; then in September 2000 it introduced "success fees". This action proved the turning point for TradeMe, saving the site from potential financial disaster.

eBay tried to enter the New Zealand market in 2001, but had little success. TradeMe has remained the major Internet-auction site in New Zealand, with both international and smaller national competitors gaining relatively little market penetration. Morgan commented on eBay's attempt to penetrate the New Zealand market in an interview:

"...I think there are big cultural issues there that are just not well understood. For example the Americans think that everyone has a zip code [...] they were a little late in and then they launched in US dollars."[7]

Morgan took time off from the stress of running the booming TradeMe site in September 2001, and went to the United Kingdom to manage an IT team in London. When he returned to his role at TradeMe the site had become profitable, with a membership of 100,000 and growing. By April 2005 this number reached one million.

In 2005 New Zealand's Deloitte/Unlimited Fast 50 rated TradeMe the fastest-growing NZ technology company for the previous year..[8]

[edit] Acquisition by Fairfax

TradeMe offices, Wellington (2006).

On March 6, 2006 the Australian media company Fairfax acquired TradeMe in a deal worth NZ$700 million, with an additional NZ$50 million payable if the organisation met earnings-targets over the next two years. (Those targets were met.) Sam Morgan and other executives remained with TradeMe.[9] Since the Fairfax purchase, TradeMe has continued to stand alone, with the former Fairfax sites Jobstuff and Propertystuff being discontinued.

[edit] Listings

TradeMe has increased its scope over time, and now offers a wide range of listing-possibilities. It has most recently moved into the online job-listing market, in competition with sites like Seek.co.nz. Customers can list the following items and positions on TradeMe:

  • general items
  • motors: cars, motorbikes and boats
  • property
  • jobs
  • rental property
  • flatmates
TradeMe's property marketplace.

In 2006 TradeMe laid a complaint with the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) over the advertising of its largest property market competitor, Realestate.co.nz. According to the complaint, Realestate.co.nz, (run jointly by the Real Estate Institute of New Zealand (REINZ) and Property Page Ltd) had misled consumers with their advertisements with their slogan: "the only place with every place". TradeMe stated that it had properties listed on the TradeMe website which Realestate.co.nz did not have. TradeMe also detailed other reasons why Realestate.co.nz had allegedly breached the ASA's code of ethics and comparative advertising. The ASA upheld parts of the complaint.[10]

[edit] Community and related sites

Old Friends has over 1,200,000 members.[11]

The TradeMe site has a general messageboard where members can participate in discussions on a variety of topics, ask questions and seek advice. Controversial postings or flame-wars have occasionally resulted in interference in auctions by members with opposing views.

The TradeMe messageboard is community moderated: a post or thread may be voted off by as few as 10 members if they deem it offensive. This has led to frequent abuse by certain members and groups who vote off popular threads that otherwise comply with the messageboard guidelines. To help combat this problem, VoteMeNot[12] - was created in November 2008 to allow messageboard members to archive threads that they feel may be voted off or expire.

TradeMe Limited owns several sites which appear grouped together as tabs at the top of the TradeMe website, allowing navigation between the related sites. The online map site smaps, which provided convenient access to New Zealand street maps, was permanently closed in December 2008, leaving the niche to sites like Google Maps and zoomin.co.nz. Smaps was previously embedded in TradeMe property listings; it now uses Google Maps.

Fairfax sites include:

[edit] Controversy

[edit] Fraud and controversy

As a fairly open marketplace which is recongnised globally, TradeMe experiences the same problems (such as fraudsters) any online auction website does, and users need to exercise vigilance. In recent times, TradeMe set up a dedicated team which investigates fraud on-site and has a 100% record in gaining convictions for those offenders identified as using TradeMe as a medium. [17]

Members can report fraud or listing that are in breach of the Terms and Conditions"[18] via the "Community Watch" (CW) feature, sited at the bottom of every auction. Contact with staff can also be made via the 'Contact Us' link at the bottom of every page however Trade Me does not provide a direct email address for customer support.

A website www.scambusters.co.nz functioned as an independent site of self-proclaimed watchers of fraud on TradeMe. The group comprises amateur online members, and while they presented themselves as a site for reporting fraud on TradeMe, they had no affiliation to TradeMe, and therefore no access to some of the information or help that potential victims might need.

To minimise payment-problems and reduce fraud, TradeMe restricted membership to residents of New Zealand and of Australia in 2005. This affected around 20,000 international members.

TradeMe's terms and conditions did not always specify a restriction to persons over eighteen years of age, although any user under the age of eighteen can not negotiate a legally binding contract. As recently as October 2005 the "Terms and Conditions" merely stated: "Becoming a member is free and there are no restrictions on who may become a member of Trade Me", with no mention of an under-eighteen-years-of-age ban. Prior to mid-2005 Trade Me did not restrict under-age users, even allowing them to enter in their correct birthdates upon sign-up. In June 2005 Fair Go,[19] a television-programme devoted to consumer-affairs, approached Trade Me Limited regarding this issue and featured the matter on a broadcast episode. In response to this, Trade Me Limited sent all the users who registered their date of birth as under eighteen an e-mail asking them to check and update their details if incorrect. Trade Me no longer allows users to register if they enter a birth-date indicating their age as under eighteen, but people under eighteen may simply represent themselves as older when they join.

[edit] Clashes with rivals

TradeMe has been reported to "bully" its rivals by sending intimidation letters in disguise of a "legal breach".

On November 6, 2008 the National Business Review published an article [20] on one such rival site Lixtor (http://www.lixtor.co.nz).

It was reported that TradeMe tried to "bully" the rival Lixtor by sending a false-flagged notice of "copyright infringement" on their "Privacy Policy" and "Terms and Conditions". However, TradeMe spokeman said that Lixtor was just trying to draw media attention.

On November 20, 2008, a community newspaper The Aucklander also reported that TradeMe's lawyers asked Lixtor to remove their "Terms and Conditions" [21]

On February 3, 2009, in the wake of the emerging New Zealand copyright law Section 92a, New Zealand Creative Freedom Foundation published an article[22]. It was stated that Lixtor vs. TradeMe case is a good example of how the new section 92a in the New Zealand copyright law could be "misused", if passed.

[edit] Clashes with software developers

Various software developers have received legal threats after developing third-party software which interfaces with the TradeMe website.

On August 19, 2006 the New Zealand Listener published an article, "Bidding War" [23] on one such developer. The developer, Ciaran Riddell, created a piece of software, AuctionBar, which used a technique known as screen scraping. The software allowed for more detailed searches for goods on sale as well as bids and updates via text-messaging and a tool known as a "sniper", which acted as an automated bidding-tool.

Trade Me have since amended the "Terms and Conditions"[18] of the TradeMe website which now specifies "You may not use a robot, spider, scraper or other automated means to access the Website or information featured on it for any purpose" under s4.1(c).

On May 7, 2007 TradeMe released a Windows Vista Sidebar Gadget to run in the Windows Sidebar. This gadget, available on the TradeMe site, became the first sanctioned application to work with TradeMe. As the Vista Gadget requires an XML Feed, the gadget caused further discussion in the developer-community about why TradeMe did not have an API. It also led to other creations by the developer-community on top of Vista Gadget.

[edit] Notable auctions

  • A "comfort hug", auctioned in April 2005 to promote love and good feelings.[24] The auction received considerable media attention.[25]
  • In late 2005, a member offered a time-machine for sale through auction (or swap for "anti gravity machine"), with the highest bid reaching $300,000,000,001,999. The seller withdrew the auction shortly before its close-time. News of the auction reached some New Zealand newspapers, which ran a story on it. Currently this auction holds the record for the highest number of questions asked and answered.[26]
  • In 2006 a user attempted to auction the Optus B1 satellite following a malfunction. [27] The opening price started at NZ$200,000,000. TradeMe withdrew the auction after 231,908 page-views.
  • In May 2006 a member tried to sell Australia, using humorous descriptions of the country. The auction drew over 100 questions, and had more than 11,000 views. The country achieved a bid of $200,045,400, with a reserve price of 50 cents. In the end however, TradeMe admins withdrew the auction. One News (a broadcast television programme) ran a report on this auction.[28]
  • Also in May 2006 a member tried to sell his leg — amputated a year earlier as a result of diabetes.[29] TradeMe withdrew the auction within hours and swiftly added "Body Parts" to the "Prohibited Items" list.[30]
  • In June 2006 Wellington Hurricanes player Tana Umaga hit team-mate Chris Masoe with a Roxy handbag at the "Jolly Poacher" bar in Christchurch after Masoe got into an altercation with a patron. The owner of the bag auctioned it via TradeMe for $22,800, generating a large media-story and over 1 million page-views before the auction closed (see 2006 rugby union handbag controversy).[31]
  • In June 2006 Lisa Lewis streaked across the field at the All Blacks game against Ireland held at Waikato Stadium. Days later the bikini Lewis had worn ended up for auction. [32] The winning bid of $4,010 later proved not genuine [33]
  • In October 2007 Lisa-Marie Corlet stumbled across a pebble with markings allegedly resembling the Virgin Mary. A first auction completed, but the bids later proved invalid. Corlet went on a nation-wide television-programme, Campbell Live, to announce she would not accept anything less than $78,662,500,000 NZD as she believes that someone would very much treasure the item. She presented herself as non-religious and offered this as the reason why she chose to onsell the pebble. Corlet's auction of the "Virgin Mary pebble" has proven to be one of the most highly viewed auctions on TradeMe, with over 100,000 views (so far). The current bid stands, as of October 28, 2007, at $31,600.50 NZD. Corlet believes more people will choose to bid near the time the auction draws to a close.[34]
  • In September 2008 a man attempted to sell a dolphin he accidentally caught while net fishing. [35] This later turned out to be a hoax.[36]
  • In 17 November 2008 Lixtor attempted to auction their auction site following dispute with TradeMe over copyright-infringement allegations. [37] [38] The opening price started at NZ$100,000,000. TradeMe withdrew the auction after a few hours. [38] [39]

24 May 2009: An auction for a tractor with 20 acres of land (in Catlins, South Island) thrown in for free generated over 3.5 million views and over one thousand and five hundred questions. The winning bid of NZD250,000 by a Wellington man proved to be bogus. Trademe diplomatically claimed "bidder has been unable to secure lending finance from his bank" but still had his account suspended. The sellers are using other means to sell, and have made national and international news with their "spur of the moment" listing.

Mike Whittaker (mikew4) listed his old Kelvinator Washing Machine in June 2009 under the title 'Scary Washing Machine' due to its behaviour when washing. He created a fictional story about how it sucked his shoes, pants, iron and wife into a vortex, beyond which, there are dinosaurs. The auction has received over 800,000 veiws so far. The pictures he drew of the supposed dinosaurs are being sold as fundraisers for NZ charites. T-Shirt company 'MrVintage' has created its own Scary Washing Machine Range of mens and womens T-Shirts. The washing machine eventually sold for $5,160.[40]

Note: Withdrawn auctions become unviewable after 60 days and bid histories after 45.

[edit] See also

[edit] References

  1. ^ "New Zealand - Alexa record for trademe.co.nz". http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/trademe.co.nz. Retrieved on 2009-13-20. 
  2. ^ "Fairfax Media : News". http://www.fairfaxnz.co.nz/news/index.html#ffxacqtm. Retrieved on 2008-11-23. 
  3. ^ New Zealand census 2006 final figures, including overseas visitors.  {{PDFlink| [1] |370 KiB
  4. ^ TradeMe Statistics
  5. ^ "Sam Morgan’s e-Business strategy - an i-Start exclusive" Date: March 2006 Accessed: 9 December, 2006
  6. ^ a b c Hard road to online fame and fortune - 11 Mar 2006 Accessed:10 December 2006
  7. ^ "TradeMe: Big Fish In A Small Pond" August 21, 2006, Accessed 10 December 2006
  8. ^ NZX: By Company Released 6 March, 2006; Accessed 10 December 2006
  9. ^ "Fairfax To Acquire Trade Me, New Zealand's Leading Internet Business" 6 March 2006, Accessed on 10 December 2006
  10. ^ Complaint to ASA (.rtf)
  11. ^ "Old Friends". http://www.oldfriends.co.nz. Retrieved on 2007-06-10. 
  12. ^ VoteMeNot
  13. ^ Ranked 12 in New Zealand, according to Alexa, just behind the New Zealand Herald at 10 [2]
  14. ^ Ranked 64 in New Zealand, according to Alexa
  15. ^ Ranked 95 in New Zealand, according to Alexa
  16. ^ Ranked 474 in New Zealand, according to Alexa
  17. ^ Mauricio Freitas - Trade Me closing accounts?
  18. ^ a b [http://www.trademe.co.nz/termsTradeMe.co.nz - Terms and Conditions" ]
  19. ^ Fair Go - Episode 14
  20. ^ The National Business Review - TradeMe trying to 'intimidate', says auction rival
  21. ^ The Aucklander - Newbie takes on TradeMe
  22. ^ "Guilt Upon Accusation: New Zealand Businesses". Creative Freedom NZ. http://creativefreedom.org.nz/story.html?id=78. 
  23. ^ The New Zealand Listener - Bidding War
  24. ^ TradeMe Auction 25682983
  25. ^ Hug beats slap with bidders
  26. ^ TradeMe Auction 36725938
  27. ^ TradeMe Auction 52360702
  28. ^ TradeMe Auction 55824140
  29. ^ TradeMe Auction 57001645
  30. ^ "Banned & Restricted Items". http://www.trademe.co.nz/Help/RestrictedItems.aspx. Retrieved on 2007-05-26. 
  31. ^ TradeMe Auction 58555525
  32. ^ TradeMe Auction 59664487
  33. ^ Bikini bid 'a hoax'
  34. ^ virgin mary image on pebble for sale - TradeMe.co.nz - New Zealand
  35. ^ http://www.users.bigpond.com/gavlewis/dolphin4sale.pdf
  36. ^ http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10348128
  37. ^ TradeMe - "Lixtor.co.nz FOR SALE starting bid $100,000,000 (Google Cache)"
  38. ^ a b Scoop - "Lixtor is FOR SALE for $100,000,000 on TradeMe"
  39. ^ Lixtor.co.nz FOR SALE starting bid $100,000,000
  40. ^ http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=223309871

[edit] Further reading

Two how-to books about Trademe have appeared:

  • Trade Me Success Secrets : How To Buy Better & Sell More Profitably On New Zealand's Most Popular Auction Site by Michael Carney, Activity Press, 2005, 294 pp. ISBN 0958263418
  • Trade Me : your ultimate guide by Juha Saarinen (foreword by Sam Morgan), Penguin 2005, 179 pp. ISBN 0143020447

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