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  1. WP:ALBUM/SOURCE states "News items should not be used for BLP statements". See WP:BLP
  2. The "article" is almost entirely a statement by Mustaine, about himself and others (as would be Mustaine's autobiography). See WP:BLPPRIMARY.

I can guarantee the source will not survive a source check. You might want to go through the rest of the sources to make sure there aren't any more like these. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 10:45, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Remove it if you will. I agree that it somehow ruins the neutrality of the article, but that is the case. As I said at the nomination page, you can't expect Ellefson to confirm these allegations.--Retrohead (talk) 10:49, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
Nor should we expect him to, but that's beside the point. If the only source we have is Mustaine's own statement, then we can't use it—this is policy. Just stick to something like "...but Mustaine and Ellefson did not come to an agreement". Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 10:54, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Re: A quick favour if you will[edit]

Hello Retrohead. I will surely help you out,seeing you have an FAC going on. I am confused as to which parts of the song I should upload. I will do it today. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 09:05, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Update: Okay I have uploaded the files, choosing parts I thought were apt. Here are the two links to the files (Holy Wars and Symphony of Destruction). These audios had already been uploaded and I have uploaded newer versions. If you have played them recently you will have to reset your cache or just open them in incognito and then play. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 14:54, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes. I had thought of that. Unfortunately, these files had already been uploaded. So all I could do was to upload newer versions. You can approach a user with file moving rights and tell them to do so. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 15:22, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Ohhh. Good thing I still have the ogg files on my computer, I'll upload them under new names. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 15:27, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
I assume these samples are going to be used in the main Megadeth article? I need to know which article these samples will be attached to since the upload form requires this. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 15:31, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
WonderBoy1998, "Symphony" will be used in the band's and song article, while "Holy Wars" only in the song.--Retrohead (talk) 15:37, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Okay I have uploaded the two files. You can go edit the descriptions if you like. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 16:22, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
For "Symphony", you will have to provide two different rationales for the two different articles it is attached to. Better to do this before someone points that out at the FA nomination.--WonderBoy1998 (talk) 16:47, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, that was one of my oldest and first Shakira GA articles. I will comment on the FAC ASAP. I know how annoying it is when no one comments on an FA nomination. One of my own failed due to lack of consensus (only two comments- one support one oppose). --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Striking comments[edit]

Generally you're not supposed to alter other editors' comments, which includes striking them. Usually, a stuck comment indicates the orginal commenter believes the comment has been dealt with to their satisfaction. Just note that you've dealt with it, and leave the striking to the commenter (if they feel like it). Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 10:47, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Re: FAC comments[edit]

Not going to be able to take a look at it, unfortunately. Wizardman 23:21, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Retrohead. Thank you for asking me to be involved with the FA. I'm really busy right now, but maybe you could ask User: Drmies. Hope all goes well! Radiopathy •talk• 16:17, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

I think you got the wrong editor here. My name isn't Glen, nor have I helped with that article! If, however, you just got my name wrong (no hard feelings), I might be able to look over it in a bit, but I don't have a ton of free time at the moment, so you might jump to another editor.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 16:27, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Like I said, I don't have a ton of free time at the moment, so you might want to jump to another editor. If you give me a few more weeks, I might be able to help at, but now isn't the best time.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 18:47, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Megadeth "Icon" compilation[edit]

Hey Retro, I noticed earlier this year that they released another compilation as part of the "Icon" series. Now while I believe that the album itself is in no way deserving of an article (little to no mention of it on blabbermouth, loudwire, etc). Since I know you're still working on the FA stuff for the main Megadeth article, I want your opinion on whether you think you think it would be worthwhile/important to insert mention there, or even into the discography page or the navigation box for that matter? I'm leaning in favor of that, but I'm curious as to what you think.

Megadeth Icon Series Compilation Due This Month (Feb 14, 2014)

--L1A1 FAL (talk) 20:04, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

I'll consider it mandatory for the discography page, since it's an official Megadeth release, and even online music retailers (Amazon, iTunes) sell it. As for the main article, it might be too detail-y, but I'll leave that decision to you. Thanks for letting me know.--Retrohead (talk) 21:02, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I'll add it in the discography then. As for the main article, I think just a brief one-sentence mention would be fine.I'll probably put it in, but if you feel differently then, feel free to revert.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 23:06, 6 July 2014 (UTC)


You're welcome. Whenever you have time, feel free to comment on Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Sale el Sol/archive1. Thanks. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 19:28, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

re: Peace Sells sample[edit]

Hello, I think this is the one we made longer to accommodate the lyrics. I don't have time today, but can take a look (listen) tomorrow. Dawnseeker2000 13:19, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

SFSGSW songs[edit]

Hey I'm gonna redirect the articles for "Liar" and "Hook in Mouth" back to SFSGSW. They just aren't that important, and "Liar" has questionable sources/info in it.

I'm also considering redirecting "The Scorpion" to the TSHF article. I actually started that one, but in hindsight, it's just not important enough compared to other songs. I want to scan that one for information to put in TSHF first, though.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 17:31, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Hey pal, it's nice hearing from you. I was thinking about making "The Scorpion" a redirect too, but left it because I saw that you created that article. Listen, if you're not in a hurry, can you do a source check for the FAC on Megadeth? I've asked so many people to comment there, but so far, I've managed to get input from three editors (out of 23).--Retrohead (talk) 18:55, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
What all do you need done? I haven't been following the FA process very closely, so I'm not sure what needs to be done. Do you just need the sources checked for particular passages, or is this a source format thing?--L1A1 FAL (talk) 19:28, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
It's commenting at the FAC. I need an editor who can check whether the references used there are reliable and stuff (in similar fashion to Nikkimaria's report on the non-free media used).--Retrohead (talk) 19:31, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I'll try to get to that sometime tonight. By the way, I actually ended up doing a fairly good amount of housecleaing, article-wise. Redirected a bout 4 or 5 songs, and "Still Alive... and Well?" and "Rusted Pieces".--L1A1 FAL (talk) 19:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I've started. I havent done any FA commentary before, and I expect examining that to take a while, but I started the process.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 20:41, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I've gone through the first 150 citations, I'm gonna wait for some third party comment though before continuing. The only absolutely bad one I see is cite #147 - Blogcritics. That one should be replaced without question. The rest I mentioned I think are either okay, or should be discussed.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 23:32, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Good news L1A1 FAL, you are definitely allowed to review the article, except for voting on the promotion. I've raised the issue here, and got reply that as long as it's noted that you were involved in editing the article prior to the nomination, everything is fine. I'll wait for Miniapolis to finish the copy-editing, and will start working right after that. In the mean time, you can do the rest of the references, while I try to find additional input on that topic.--Retrohead (talk) 08:23, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Ok, then. I'll keep up with my work then. That's certainly understandable that I would not be able to vote, and I do believe that should be for completely uninvolved editors.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 22:17, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Megadeth copyedits[edit]

  • Miniapolis changed "a New York-based independent label that offered him the highest budget for recording an album and starting a promotional tour" to "a New York-based independent label offering Megadeth the highest recording and touring budget". Does the source say whether they were given one budget or two? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 23:29, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Was Megadeth the only (or the first) opening band on the 1987 Constrictor tour? If they joined partway through, then your "added" would be more appropriate. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 23:47, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Sorry; I've gotten as far as 2007–08: United Abominations, but CT's wholesale reversions of my edits have made it impossible to continue; too bad, because I was hoping to finish the copyedit tomorrow and gave it my best shot. Good luck with the FAC (which looks closely at prose quality and article stability) and all the best, Miniapolis 00:25, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, Retrohead. I tried to be tactful, I tried to give a rationale for each thing I reverted, and I even informed Miniapolis of what I was doing, but I understand that having one's edits reverted can hurt the pride. Too many of the edits changed the sense of the prose, and too many others adversely affected readability—I really had no ethical choice but to do something about it. I'll never understand why so much prose had to be shoved into parentheses, or why Miniapolis had to remove serial commas—and not even consistently. What a mess! Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 07:44, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
No worries, I understand. He tried to help, but when you're not familiar with the subject, you might unintentionally do some mistakes. I was also wondering about the overuse of the brackets, but it seems that everyone has his own writing style.--Retrohead (talk) 07:48, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Do you have answers for the two questions above? I don't know if I should revert them or not. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 07:51, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Megadeth was the only band supporting Alice Cooper. As for the first point, the band was supposed to record and tour with those 8,000 dollars by Combat→one budget.--Retrohead (talk) 07:54, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 08:03, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Megadeth FAC Reply (L1A1)[edit]

Yeah, that's fine, but I'm also hoping another one of the editors more knowledgeable than myself at the FAC discussion will look over some of the stuff I brought up, cause there are a number that I am unsure of. For example, I want a second opinion on use of the source, and a few others. But when they're addressed, yeah, feel free to cross them out--L1A1 FAL (talk) 21:57, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

User:MrMoustacheMM addressed some of the concerns I had with some sources I pointed out, so I dropped my own concerns about them, too--L1A1 FAL (talk) 00:12, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


Hey Retro, I was actually considering eliminating Breadline. However, I was actually thinking of moving the tracklisting to the Risk page, kind of like what was done with the various minor EPs on Cryptic Writings, and the live EP that went with Countdown to Extinction.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 20:38, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


Hello Retrohead, I've left my last comments on Megadeth's FAC and am almost ready to support it for promotion. I have my own FAC started up here, in which you are welcome to comment. SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 21:24, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Hey Snuggums, thanks for the invitation. I'm planning to comment there right after the Megadeth candidature is closed, which should be in a week or two. Good luck with yours.--Retrohead (talk) 23:10, 26 July 2014 (UTC)


Hey Retro, I suddenly have a lot more time available, so I decided I'm gonna take a shot at getting Thirteen (Megadeth album) to FA status. I'm not sure how to do the process though, and was hoping you could help me get it started. Additionally, do you know anyone that could do the GA review for Rust in Peace? its been sitting there for almost 4 months. Thanks--L1A1 FAL (talk) 13:40, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi L1A1 FAL. About the FA candidature on Thirteen, why don't you ask for help at Wikipedia:GOCE/REQ? It would take at least a month before the article gets copyedited, but the guys there are doing an awesome job on the prose. As for Rust in Peace, I'll ask CrowzRSA to see if he is available to conduct the review. I've recently got Peace Sells accepted for a GAR, but I've got a few notes I need help with. Can you re-word the two sentences about "Devils Island" in the songs' section? I will address the remaining issues myself later this week. Have a good one!--Retrohead (talk) 08:03, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the info. I've never done an FA, but I do want to get Thirteen to FA, since I've been working on it from the very beginning. Thanks for talking to Crowz, also. I'll take a look over PS in a little bit here. Take care and thanks again--L1A1 FAL (talk) 16:07, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Take a look at the Devil's Island thing now. I tweaked it a bit and added a couple links. I'll probably to a quick proofread of the article, too. Never hurts to have another set of eyes check it over--L1A1 FAL (talk) 16:24, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Also, if you get a moment, could you take a look at Blind Rage (album) and compare it with the criteria for Start-class? Thanks.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 16:55, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Assessed the album according to the criteria. As for Thirteen, I might do a few corrections myself this months, but I think the topic is pretty well researched. Also found this, if you need additional details about the album.--Retrohead (talk) 21:10, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
P.S. Click on the red link to initiate the nomination.--Retrohead (talk) 21:14, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Re: OMEGA[edit]

Hey Retro, I saw that that you talked to a few editors the other day. I appreciate that. (As of yesterday) the one made quite clear that he/she was not very enthusiastic about metal, Megadeth or Thirteen, but left some notes nonetheless. I have yet to check it today, but I'm sure some of the other editors you talked to will leave helpful commentary and suggestions too.

As for Hidden Treasures, I'm still kinda thinking what I want to do with it. It's a smaller article and it'll likely stay that way. I know Crowz has made some of the smaller Slayer articles GA-level, so I figured I'd get his opinion. As an aside, Doesn't look like anyone took on RIP yet, but Crowz said if nobody got to it by the 9th that he'd take a look, so I'll wait and see. Thanks again!--L1A1 FAL (talk) 13:05, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey Retro, keep an eye out for IP (and probably similar ones in the future, as I have submitted a block request for this one). He/she is genre warring and blanking on a large number of metal album and band pages.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 16:20, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Sonia Sotomayor[edit]

Thanks for pointing out that this wasn't even a FA (something which I missed). I've deleted the out of process FA nomination as you suggested. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:57, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Megadeth FAC[edit]

  • Congratulations- this just became FA :D! Snuggums (talk / edits) 02:14, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
  • You finally got Megadeth promoted! I assume it's the first of many? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 02:42, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Congratulations on getting Megadeth to FA status!--L1A1 FAL (talk) 03:01, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Desolate North[edit]

Are you looking for a fight? I have fixed everything you've asked for. Numerous editors have said that the article should be kept. You should not be the one closing the discussion. J Milburn (talk) 12:22, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

And you acknowledged that you should not be the one closing the discussion here. I am sick of dealing with this nonsense- if you feel that the discussion should be closed, ask someone at Wikipedia talk:Good article reassessment. J Milburn (talk) 12:26, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. I don't think this episode has shown either of us at its best; I hope this won't tarnish future encounters between us. I've no doubt that we'll bump into each other again, and hopefully we'll be able to get along then. J Milburn (talk) 20:42, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Agree. Never doubted your good will.--Retrohead (talk) 22:56, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Closing reassessment[edit]

Hi, I thought an admin (or at least a GAR regular) had to do that. I know nothing about the article or procedures for this.— Rod talk 13:34, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

GOCE request returned to list[edit]

Hi Retrohead; RGloucester has returned the article Waverley Line, which you copy-edited, to the Requests page; see this diff; consequently I've unarchived it. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 22:54, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I've raised a discussion at his talk. I think he objects removing some POV clauses, which any other copyeditor would do.--Retrohead (talk) 22:56, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello Megadeth ;)[edit]

Hello/Olá Retrohead. Yes!! I would love to work in the Megadeth article in the portuguese Wikipedia. But right now i'm working in a variety of articles ... but I will work again on Megadeth... it's the second article of Megadeth that I worked on (first was Youthanasia). never tought of improve the article of the band himself. Maybe after the works i'm doing now. Congrats for your work!! PS.: sorry about my english, a little rough on the edges... Cheers.--Edviges (talk) 14:23, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


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For your recent FA on Megadeth L1A1 FAL (talk) 17:19, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


Hey, I know you talked to a few other editors about doing the GA on Rust. Do you know if any of them might still be interested? CrowzRSA started the page 5 days ago, but he hasn't logged a single edit since then. I assume that he's just busy with everyday life, but I have no way of knowing for sure. I'm going to give him another day or so to see if he comes back to it, and if he doesn't, I need someone else to take it over then. Thanks--L1A1 FAL (talk) 18:22, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Hey L1A1 FAL, thanks for the badass award. I'm not sure if Binksternet is still willing to take the spot, but I can make some comments there to keep things going while CrowzRSA returns.--Retrohead (talk) 21:41, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
He hasn't even started it! I mean he opened the page, but there is no evidence of him having done anything else yet. Like I said though, I want to give him a couple more days to see if he does anything. If not, then maybe it'll be time to talk to Bink. By the way, I am considering doing the GA for Worship Music. I haven't made significant edits to that article since 2012, so I don't see a conflict of interest being an issue. I haven't done a GA before though, so that's what's keeping me from jumping right in--L1A1 FAL (talk) 21:51, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
You are right, Crowz hasn't been active at all since he opened the review. I'm thinking to post a note at WT:GAN if he doesn't make an edit in the next couple of days. As for Worship Music, I remember I nominated it last year, but eventually abandoned the nomination due to lack of reviewers. I'll be glad if you can take the article. It became common these days to wait up to four months for a GAR.--Retrohead (talk) 21:57, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Regarding Worship music, one thing I was thinking about doing was finding a more experienced reviewer to oversee my efforts, but I might just do it myself too. Still undecided. From looking over the article quick though (and 3 or 4 minor prose tweaks) the prose looks good. I would need to check the sources (I did find that cite 8 ( doesn't go to Ian's column anymore). Also, under the paragraph for the special edition and related EP, it's mentioned "though it had been released three days earlier in North America." It is unclear what "it" refers to (the special edition of the album or the EP) and it should have a cite, too--L1A1 FAL (talk) 22:19, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
You know of anyone else besides Bink for the review?--L1A1 FAL (talk) 05:27, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
I've also asked Cambalachero for the position, but he said he doesn't do GA reviews. I'm sure if we ask Snuggums he'll take the spot. Can't guarantee about others I know here.--Retrohead (talk) 06:41, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
I'm gonna send him a message then, I think. I'll see if he's interested in commenting on thirteen, also. Thanks for the suggestion.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 17:55, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Worship Music[edit]

Hey Retro, I started the review page for Worship Music. Gonna try to start the actual review a little later today. As I said before, I haven't reviewed an article before, so if I get caught up on something, I might ask another editor for help. So far as fixing any issues that may be present in the article, you and I seem to work well together, so I think the process will go smoothly.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 16:09, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for accepting the review L1A1 FAL. About the question regarding the EP and the album's deluxe edition, I think that "it" refers to the Anthems EP. If you check the link, you'll see it was released three days earlier in North America. I'll be glad if you can tweak it to read more comprehensive. I'll check the references as you suggested to see which links need to be corrected. Cheers!--Retrohead (talk) 21:37, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
I already took care of the EP thing. added a new ref from blabbermouth and shuffled a couple of other refs back a bit.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 21:42, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Update I believe that the article is pretty much there. Aside from any small typos here or there, the only thing I'm waiting on is the image issue. Everything else seems to be up to par to me.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 17:57, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
Update 16 August I am just waiting on a second opinion for the copyright status of the band image. I believe that is the last thing to do for the GA then, so after that's done, I'm gonna take one last look over the article to see if I missed anything.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 19:16, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Re: TSHF[edit]

Yeah, I'll take a look at that quote soon. Been a while since I've really looked over that article actually (since I did the GA, probably). As for the Good Topic idea, my friend, we think alike. I had noticed Crowz did that with Slayer, and I was thinking that would be something to do after RIP and Hidden treasures were up to par.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 23:08, 18 August 2014 (UTC)


I'll take care of a source check for that, and maybe make a few other comments if I see fit--L1A1 FAL (talk) 17:02, 19 August 2014 (UTC)