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Replying to a response from February that I missed back then.
The thing is, the premise, that "Ivo" is merely a hypocorism of "Ivan", is moot. Most Croatian sources of similar quality that I've seen simply say it's a derivative form, not a form of endearment. Granted, it likely came to be as a hypocorism back in the day, but a fair few hundreds of years later, it's no longer so strictly associated with the other name, it's no longer necessarily interchangeable. And it's probably even less likely to be associated with the other name by readers who don't know about South Slavic word formation. Regardless of the etymology, when a name is as notable as this one, I see no real benefit in trying to move it away from its own title because it can lead to slippery slopes - cf. Beth. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 19:27, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
How to enter your archive?
- By the page history. But this link will also help: User talk:Dbachmann/Archive 42. 17:02, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
I have two questions regarding this: 1. could you give the page(s) where this is mentioned in Tavernier's book? (which can be viewed online here , by the way) 2. could you please elaborate a little bit on your text on the talk page: "derived from a facsimile in a 1983 edition published in Karachi". What kind of edition of what exactly? Thanks.--18.104.22.168 (talk) 20:33, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Fair questions. re Tavernier, I took the information from here (added 2008) and did not verify it, it seems to be cited after this, which states p. 265, but perhaps this is the pagination of an English translation.
As for the facsimile edition, this is my conjecture, and for this reason I did not add it to the article and left it on the talkpage instead. The book in question is Sultan Ahmed Qureshi, Letters of the Holy Prophet, Karachi (1983). If you compare the facsimile quality in this book with the rendition in the early versions of the flag (2006?), you will be able to form your own opinion. If I was not writing a Wikipedia entry but a blog entry, I would argue that it is very likely that jihadists looking for symbols of authentic, 7th-century Islam pulled these seal images from that book, unaware of the fact that they were Ottoman era manuscript copies. But as I was writing for Wikipedia, I just stuck to the facts for the purposes of the article, and left the conjecture on the talkpage in case anyone was interested. --dab (𒁳) 21:01, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I was just looking over your image and have some concerns about its source: you give attribution to two other people for the map information, but you do not seem to specify where the actual terrain map comes from. Could you add that information to the file? Thank you! KDS4444Talk 17:01, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
I uploaded the image more than eight years ago, man. It was some online engine that generated maps from PD GIS data, I think. --dab (𒁳) 17:09, 24 September 2014 (UTC)