User:Diego Grez/GNAA references review
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Here I will be reviewing each of User:Murdox/GNAA's references, in depth, and given my knowledge of other Romance languages (Portuguese, by example), it won't be hard to review references such as the Rede Globo one.
Review[edit]
- This reference points to GNAA's official website press releases, it is a primary source, and it shouldn't be pointing to that page at all, but to this, which is where it is stated that the association was founded on September 11, 2003. I don't think the GNAA website is reliable enough to reference an encyclopedical article, and as stated in WP:PRIMARY, "Unless restricted by another policy, primary sources that have been reliably published may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them." Although this might be fine to reference a date, anyway.
- The DailyTech article showcases an interview with Leon Kaiser, "GNAA, Goatse Sec spokesperson". The only thing that Kaiser makes mention about GNAA in the article is that it "is a loosely-affiliated group of anti-blogging trolls who take their name from [a] 1992 Danish movie..." And that Goatse Security is a subdivision of the association. Certainly, a very brief mention, as the main topic in the article is that two persons are going to be charged "for conspiracy and fraud" and something also about Goatse Security.
- I can't deny International Business Times' reliability, but the article only makes a brief mention of the president of the association (Gary Niger?), and a verbatim quote from GNAA's website: "This website is maintained by the GNAA, world-famous trolling organization." The article's main topic is Goatse Security; this reference would be more useful there.
- Primary source, shouldn't be used at all; aren't there any other sources to cover the fact that it is based in Tarzana, Los Angeles?
- Same as 4; aren't there other sources apart from the primary website?
- Article is about Goatse Security and the iPad thing; mentions that weev and "other members of Goatse Security claim to be members of the Gay N***** Association of America." That does not help much other than to say in Weev's article that he is part of this association, or that Goatse Security is in some way related to it, but not to prove anything else.
- "Saiba como ocorreu falha que expôs e-mails de 114 mil usuários do iPad"-"Get informed as to how fault that shows e-mails of 114 thousand users of iPad occurred". I don't doubt Rede Globo's reliability, either. Mentions: "Grupo que divulgou o problema exclusivamente à Gawker tem relação com associação que realiza trotes virtuais." – "Group [Goatse Security] that showcased problem exclusively to Gawker is related with association that does virtual trolling [GNAA]." (at photo caption of screenshot of GNAA's website)
- "He [weev] just like others, is part of GNAA, the "Gay Nigger association of America". They are people that spend a good part of their online time trying to do trolling. Amidst other members of the group, and one of the main ones of GNAA, there is a Linux Debian developer. The "former president" of GNAA, timecop, is known in the internet for being part of Dattebayo [...]"
- "On GNAA's blog, a message of last week talks about the activation of SIM chips on iPads, using the same techniques that were used in the code created to leak the e-mails."
- Comment: This article talks about GNAA, yes, and does specific claims about some things, and is a good reference, but yet again the main problem is that GNAA is not the main topic of the article, and notability is not inherited, as Goatse Security seems to be more important than the association itself both in coverage and actually.
Will not continue reviewing, have other things to do, but mostly, the situation is repeated throughout the article: Primary sources, and sources that make very little mention of the association. Diego Grez (talk) 22:13, 19 February 2011 (UTC)