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Hi![edit]

I am Stanton McCandlish, a Web developer, nonfiction author, civil liberties activist and nonprofit executive, and amateur pocket billiards (pool) instructor, among other roles, and have been among the most active, avid Wikipedians. I have a B.A. in anthropology and communication. I am a US citizen, but have lived in England, Ireland and Canada for extended periods, and learned to read and write in the UK. I have semi-expertise in an odd assortment of topics, like Celtic mythology, English grammar, Manx cats, New Mexican culture, US law in certain fields (freedom of expression, privacy and intellectual property), salamanders, Web standards, albinism, pool and billiards, online PR, Art Nouveau, post-punk subcultures, and various fiction franchises, among other subjects.

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My current local time is 03:49 PM (reload).

Wikitivities[edit]

Putting my money where my mouth is[edit]

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ESU 100% for major edits and 100% for minor edits. – Last update: date=March 2014.
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What I'm working on now...[edit]

...when time permits:

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Manx (cat).
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WikiProject Cue sports.

Incomplete articles[edit]

Wikipedia-namespace pages[edit]

Stuff I've been largely responsible for or heavily involved in[edit]

Projects[edit]

Articles[edit]

  • Three-ball — Article about the poorly-documented modern pocket billiards folk game, about 95% my material. Sourcing help wanted!
  • Five-pins — Article about the carom billiards game popular in Italy and parts of South America. I wrote it from scratch after someone posted a (terrible) machine-translation of the (good) Italian article; mine is now more extensive than the original Italian one, though may yet suffer from translation problems. Help wanted from someone fluent in Italian.
  • William A. Spinks — created from scratch; every single thing in it is reliably sourced.
  • Sandbox (software development) — A coding safety process. Created this article. I crack up when someone mistakes it for the Wikipedia:Sandbox.
  • Albinism — Was already a not-bad article when I got there, but I worked on it a lot, especially sourcing the science, and defending it from constant vandalism.
  • Pleonasm — Article on redundant expressions in language. About 70% or so of that text is mine.
  • Blackball (pool) — Mostly my work, building on skeletal, unsourced material originally interpolated into Eight-ball. Help wanted!
  • Folgerphone — an experimental musical instrument. Created this short article (a stub, but sourced). Someone's disputed a major fact, on the Talk page. Help wanted from anyone who knows anything at all about Folgerphones.
  • Other misc. articles I've created: Persian onager, Turkmenian kulan

Wikipedia policies, guidelines and essays[edit]

Major templates[edit]

Gallery of contributed images[edit]

Some of the images I've contributed under GFDL/CC (and sometimes PD) are displayed as thumbnails in my Gallery Page.

To-do list[edit]

edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for User:SMcCandlish:
Stuff to not forget upon returning:

Here are some tasks you can do:

Wikawards[edit]

Barnometer
The Running Man Barnstar: For your many, many fine cue sport related edits. – Fuhghettaboutit, 23:30, 9 February 2007 (UTC) The Working Man's Barnstar: For all the arduous work on Cue sport – 68.239.240.144, 23:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC) The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar: For sleuthing out sockpuppets being used to subvert WP:RFA – Dgies, 20:05, 11 April 2007 (UTC) The E=mc2 Barnstar: Awarded for your tireless work on articles relating to the field of pigmentation. – Rockpocket, 09:23, 17 April 2007 (UTC) Excellent User Page Award: [...] ask Mr. McCandlish if programmers are users too. Peace and love. – SusanLesch, 03:31, 12 September 2008 (UTC) Barnstar Eaten by a Bear: I regret to inform you that the barnstar that I was going to give you, for your bit of WP:CFD hilariousness about "Category:Celtic sports clubs", was eaten by a bear. Happy editing! – Hamtechperson, 04:46, 24 December 2009 (UTC) The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar: For general template taming goodness. – Ludwigs2, 03:36, 31 December 2009 (UTC) Some Falafel and One Canadian Beer: For being here and to work on the women sport project. – Genevieve2, 20:34, 20 January 2012 (UTC) Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar: For behaving in a genteel fashion, as if nothing were the matter, and for gallantry. – jathinkimacowboy, 03:27, 2 February 2012 (UTC) Heroic Barnstar: For your recent work at WP:MOS: A model of unflagging effort, precise analysis, institutionally broad and historically deep vision, clear articulation, and civil expression under great pressure. Unforgettable.  – User:DocKino, 06:14, 7 February 2012 (UTC) Cheers!: For all of the thoughtful posts through the extended discussion at MOSCAPS. I've appreciated it. – User:JHunterJ, 13:52, 10 February 2012 (UTC) The Barnstar Creator's Barnstar:  Thank you for your submission of the Instructor's Barnstar. It's now on the main barnstar list. – User:Pine, 15:11, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
noob involved been around veteran seen it all older than the Cabal itself
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The Running Man Barnstar The Working Man's Barnstar The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar The E=mc2 Barnstar Excellent User Page Award
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For your many, many fine cue sport related edits.
--Fuhghettaboutit 23:30, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
For all the arduous work on Cue sport
68.239.240.144 23:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Awarded to SMcCandlish for sleuthing out sockpuppets being used to subvert RfA.
—dgiestc 20:05, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Awarded for your tireless work on articles relating to the field of pigmentation.
Rockpocket 09:23, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
[...] ask Mr. McCandlish if programmers are users too. Peace and love.
-SusanLesch (talk) 03:31, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Barnstar Eaten by a Bear The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar Some Falafel and One Canadian Beer The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar The Heroic Barnstar
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I regret to inform you that the barnstar that I was going to give you for this bit of hilariousness was eaten by a bear. Happy editing!
Hamtechperson 04:46, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
For general template taming goodness.
Ludwigs2 03:36, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
For being here and to work on the women sport project.
--Cordialement féministe ♀ Cordially feminist Geneviève (talk) 20:34, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
For behaving in a genteel fashion, as if nothing were the matter, and for gallantry.
--Djathinkimacowboy 03:27, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
For your recent work at WP:MOS: A model of unflagging effort, precise analysis, institutionally broad and historically deep vision, clear articulation, and civil expression under great pressure. Unforgettable.
DocKino (talk) 06:14, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Cheers!
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For all of the thoughtful posts through the extended discussion at MOSCAPS. I've appreciated it.
JHunterJ (talk) 13:52, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
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This user helped promote the article CornerShot to Good status (promoted July 24, 2006) This user helped promote the article Jasmin Ouschan to Good status (promoted September 12  2009, received October 20, 2009) On March 2, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article William A. Spinks, which you created and substantially expanded. On June 2, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Golden Cue, which you created and substantially expanded.
"In the News" Article "In the News" Article The Original Barnstar The Barnstar Creator's Barnstar
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On 5 May 2009, In the news was updated with a news item that involved the article Shaun Murphy (snooker player), which you substantially updated. On 5 May 2009, In the news was updated with a news item that involved the article John Higgins (snooker player), which you substantially updated. This barnstar is awarded to everyone who - whatever their opinion - contributed to the discussion about Wikipedia and SOPA. Thank you for being a part of the discussion.
Presented by the Wikimedia Foundation. 20:37, 21 January 2012‎.
Thank you for your submission of the Instructor's Barnstar. It's now on the main barnstar list.
Pinetalk 15:11, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Reciprocal
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For awarding me a barnstar, I hereby giveth unto you one angry tarsier of appreciation. Thanks!
--Fuhghettaboutit 21:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
This barnstar point is awarded to SMcCandlish for giving me a barnstar point!
GracenotesT § 01:12, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
I, Λυδαcιτγ, award Stanton McCandlish the Minor Barnstar Point for the creation of said Barnstar.
Hostile
"Anti-awards" like this are a great example of what not to do on Wikipedia just because you disagree with someone:
Consider yourself duly admonished
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I hereby award this barnstar for your disruptive MFD nomination.
freak(talk) 13:00, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Incidentally, the Wikipedia:Fromowner "placeholder image" junk has been deprecated by the community just as I suggested and predicted. I wasn't disruptive, just a little before my time. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 00:12, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

What I'm up to in general on Wikipedia[edit]

On Wikipedia, I mostly do the following in lieu of large-scale article authorship (though I do have some major ones planned and three under my belt):

  1. Setting up a WikiProject and making it work
  2. Making substantial contributions to existing articles (and sometimes creating new ones) on topics I know a lot about
  3. Shepherding the growth and health of some particular articles that need it (and, in some but not all cases, about which I care a lot)
  4. Correcting typos, grammar errors and readability problems
  5. Weeding out unverifiable, or incredible and unsourced, claims
  6. Adding missing salient information
  7. Moving articles that violate the WP article naming conventions
  8. Correcting outright factual errors
  9. Improving cross-references, categorization, etc.
  10. Improving consistency of formatting
  11. Removing redundant wikilinks
  12. Removing pointless (Wikipedia is not a dictionary!) wikilinks — everyone already knows what "eye" and "the sun" mean, in most contexts in which they appear
  13. Removing minor, childish quasi-vandalism (smart-aleck remarks in articles, etc.) — I like to document these in the Talk pages, since they often are actually funny
  14. Reverting and repairing intentionally destructive vandalism, especially that by religious or other zealots, slanderers, the foul-mouthed, and the discriminatory
  15. Tagging outright vandals' talk pages with countdown-to-blocking warnings
  16. Repairing semi-vandalism edits in the form of deletions of long-standing passages without explanation, or the inexplicable addition of large chunks of questionably relevant or unsourced alleged facts, especially attacks against living article subjects, fanwanking and crackpotism.
  17. Copyediting, encyclopedizing and formalizing any juvenile, colloquial, non-neutral or poorly thought out language in articles
  18. Fixing miscellaneous "bad stuff" - vanity/marketing language, crystalballing, etc.
  19. Proposing (and sometimes performing) merges of redundant articles
  20. Adding obvious missing redirects and making sure they go to useful places
  21. Educating misinformed arguments (per logic or Wikipedia policy) on Talk pages
  22. Trying to resolve circular disputes on Talk pages
  23. Defending articles from AfD when the reasoning for the deletion is specious, especially "NN per nom" me-tooism.
  24. Nominating truly atrocious crap for AfD (or for SD, or just prod'ing them)
  25. Learning a lot concerning things I didn't know about, on all sorts of topics!
  26. Having a good time!

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I am a chimera, frequently shapeshifting.

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Critics who think I frequently make valuable contributions but have exhibited problematic behaviors would probably have to classify me as a cross between a WikiPlatypus and a WikiPuma.

Wikiphilosophy[edit]

On the non-"political" side, I am largely an exopedianist with little interest in the socializing aspects - I get that from other aspects of my life. I'm largely a WikiGnome but shapeshift into other forms of WP:WikiFauna at will, sometimes for long stretches. I have taken part in some quite extensive policy debates, spent a lot of time on visual improvement of articles, wallowed in sourcing troublesome articles, buried my nose in copyediting, become a template master, and obsessed over the perfection of certain articles, as well as gotten into pointless arguments, while also created barnstars. I'm really just not pigeonholeable.

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Note: SMcCandlish's comments on Wikipedia are a work in progress subject to the Thread-mode Disclaimer.

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Where I am in Wikispace[edit]

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Potential conflicts of interest[edit]

Just as a matter of full disclosure, there are certain articles I should not heavily edit (i.e., other than to revert vandalism, provide sources, or otherwise adjust in an entirely neutral manner), because of unintentional potential for conflict of interest or non-neutral point of view. Other editors may wish to examine carefully any edits I ever make to any of the following articles:

  • Stanton McCandlish (me; while I would easily pass WP:GNG and WP:BIO, I have no article, have never had one, and don't want one - that would be a bit creepy to me, and friends with articles say they just cause trouble for them (personal attacks, misinformation, etc.)
  • Protecting Yourself Online (I co-authored the book by this title, ISBN 9780062515124; it has no article and is surely not notable enough to have one)
  • CryptoRights Foundation (I am their volunteer CCO/Communications Director, since 2003; it bugged me somethin' fierce that it did not have an article until recently, but it seemed grossly inappropriate to even start a "just the facts" stub on it)
  • Wilcox–McCandlish law (something amusing that a colleague and I came up with in the '90s; someone else created an article about it here, before I even became a WP editor; it was subsequently deleted on notability grounds, and should probably stay that way)
Things I could conceivably have a conflict of interest on, due to past connections

Things and stuff[edit]

Funniest things I've seen on Wikipedia[edit]

[emphasis added when salient]
The content itself isn't funny, but the fact that more than 50% of the content of the page is a huge navbox is hilarious.
Perhaps the funniest real article name on Wikipedia. (It's a real math/physics theorem, and not intrinsically funny, though a bit amusing.)
Someone concerned about overlinking in articles actually used the Professional wrestling article as alleged smoking-gun "proof" of rampant overlinking across Wikpedia, requiring (naturally) much more stringent anti-linking wording in WP:LINKING. Of course that article in particular would have overlinking, along with just about every other noob error, except when periodically cleaned up by experienced, neutral editors who don't believe in fairytales. The article is clearly indicative of nothing but the nature of that topic's fanbase (and thus its most frequent editorial pool).
A song parody by various Wikimedians (to the tune of The Eagles' "Hotel California"). I hate filk, with a passion, yet I somehow loved this.
I think I was channeling Ancient Finnish or something.
in Animal Farm, as of 13 January 2010 version (we all know that ancient Marxism was of course founded by Marxus Aurelius, right?)
Rather remarkable definition of "watch your language".
A comment posted at WP:COUNCIL/P, on a proposal for a "WikiProject Life on Mars"; if you don't get why this is hysterically funny, just move on - it's an old-school sci-fi geek thing. (Hint: "John Carter" + "Mars".)
Did you know?... That there are not just regular vandals but ones with really, really weird agendas lurking in Wikipedia?
  • 11:07, 26 March 2007 83.253.36.136 (Talk) (→Performance of FAT 32 - moved spam down)
An edit summary from Wikipedia:Village pump (policy). Needless to say, the next editor's summary read "deleted spam".
Someone upset about grammar flames that were wasting people's time and being a distraction posts a distracting time-waste in the form of a longwinded and meticulously-researched grammar flame about it (plus a second shorter one!), all in support of the grammar flaming of the starter of the grammar flame; in the process, re-opening debate to yet more grammar flaming in the pointless sub-thread being complained about (dormant for over a day), and to which the poster was not even a party to begin with. I couldn't make this stuff up!
  • 05:46, 21 February 2007 Gracenotes (Talk | contribs) (→Template:Barnstars - *stabs kittens*)
An edit summary in response to "no, don't delete the barnstars!" panic replies to a TfD on a useless template simply relating to barnstars. I awarded Gracenotes a Barnstar Point for that one.
I'm not sure Wikipedia's account-creation CAPTCHA database should include every word... >;-)

Smartest things I've seen on Wikipedia[edit]

Just a few particularly pithy phrases. They aren't necessarily mindblowing or anything, just insightful and well-put.

  • "[C]onsensus is an outcome of discussion, not a type of discussion. Editors' comments contribute to the consensus-building process."
David Levy (talk · contribs), 11:49, 6 March 2012 (UTC), at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured list#Renaming and re-stylizing Today's Featured List?, accessed March 11, 2012
  • "If rules make you nervous and depressed, and not desirous of participating in the wiki, then ignore them entirely and go about your business."
Koyaanis Qatsi (talk · contribs), at 04:00, 18 September 2001 (UTC); it is the original formulation of WP:Ignore all rules
  • "Any pile of bullshit decomposes naturally."
Wikipedia:Ignore all dramas (as of this version} on ignoring instead of responding to wikistupidity; later versions have it as the far less pithy "Even the largest pile of bullshit will decompose on its own." The original addition was "The most copiously deposited bullshit decomposes on its own." I reverted it to the concise version on 10 August 2011‎ and it seems to have stuck.
  • "Removed older logo. One logo is sufficient. Logos are copyrighted and Wikipedia should not serve as a gallery for logos."
Farine (talk · contribs), 05:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC) (edit summary at Data East)
  • "Anyone who adds material to an article, but cannot be bothered to cite any sources, is being discourteous to the other editors who later have to try to find reliable sources."
Dalbury (talk · contribs) 11:42, 24 January 2007 (UTC) (Wikipedia talk:Speedy deletion criterion for unsourced articles#Userfy is a good option, accessed January 31, 2007)
  • "Of course, the point of style is to give coherence and consistency, deviations from which can detract from the publication's voice (in this case, an encyclopedic voice)."
Ninly (talk · contribs), 06:38, 8 May 2009 (UTC) (Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style, accessed June 2, 2009), on the real purpose and value of the Wikipedia Manual of Style.
  • "Show the door to trolls, vandals, and wiki-anarchists, who, if permitted, would waste your time and create a poisonous atmosphere here."
— WP co-founder Larry Sanger, on Wikipedia:Etiquette
  • "...no need for bullet points - detail here is no more important than others"
SilkTork (talk · contribs), 10:19, 27 June 2011 (UTC) (edit summary at Wikipedia:Article size); too many editors create bulletized lists from normal prose all over the place, as if Wikipedia were a giant PowerPoint presentation.
  • "While the title should be recognized as a reference to the article topic by someone familiar with the topic, for the uninitiated, it is the purpose of the article lead, not the article title, to identify the topic of the article."
Born2cycle (talk · contribs), 17:25, 26 January 2012 (UTC), Wikipedia talk:Article titles thread "Common names"
  • "The reason Wikipedia has policy pages at all is to store up assertions on which we agree, and which generally convince people when we make them in talk, so we don't have to write them out again and again. This is why policy pages aren't "enforced", but quoted; if people aren't convinced by what policy pages say, they should usually say something else. The major exception to this stability is when some small group, either in good faith or in an effort to become the Secret Masters of Wikipedia, mistakes its own opinions for What Everybody Thinks. This happens, and the clique often writes its own opinions up as policy and guideline pages."
JCScaliger (talk · contribs), sockpuppet of Pmanderson (talk · contribs), 03:57, 3 February 2012 (UTC), Wikipedia talk:Article titles thread "Request for edit, Poll". While Anderson made this point in a WP:POINTy way, sockpuppeting in a discussion he was trying to control (and arguing against me on the details of the issue) he's precisely right, and this was well articulated.
  • "If a high-profile [Wikipedian] poll is conducted that brings in widespread participation from editors who had previously stayed away from [the] venue, and the holdouts who had been stonewalling and preventing progress merely slouch, stuff their hands in their pockets, and walk away, then that proves that they knew full well that their arguments were not sufficiently persuasive, or didn’t have sufficient numbers, or both. ... Trying to now torpedo the current consensus by stating that certain people somehow didn’t have an opportunity to participate is nothing but sour grapes ... On Wikipedia it’s called ‘wililawyering’ which is disruptive and mustn’t be rewarded."
Greg L (talk · contribs), 00:49, 10 February 2012 (UTC) Wikipedia talk:Article titles thread "Why no action on implementing community consensus"

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  • "The next-to-last resort of someone who cannot muster a rational response to an opposing argument is to wave away that argument as something impossible to respond to (the last resort being ad hominem attacks)."
  • "If one grinds an axe long and hard enough, there is no axe any longer, just a useless old stick."
(A quasi-Taoist response to cranky complaints that relate to incidents so long ago no one should care any more; concise version: "Grind axe too long: no axe.")
(A response to angry accusations of wrong-doing that self-evidently apply at least equally and usually much more accurately to the ranter. More recently, I've used it as a mantra for myself, when I feel wikistressed.)

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