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What again?

I have contributed to Wikipedia since 2006 and have been an admin since the middle of 2007 with a couple of long breaks due to on and off-wiki stress. Historically I have worked mostly on deletion discussions and at one time was one of the most prolific AFD closers. From November 2012 to early 2014 I closed most DRVs but am no longer very active there. I am a strong proponent of applying the GNG to article content - especially for BLPs.

I am mostly inactive now. If you have a question or a request don't be surprised if there is a delay for an answer. I have no problems with you asking another admin on my behalf.

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Sylvester Rivers[edit]


Thanks, Spartaz, for your thoughtful consideration of this article. I could definitely use some help. Sylvester Rivers has recorded over one hundred albums with numerous major artists on major labels, many of which are RIAA certified gold and multi-platinum. He is the composer and co-writer of the title song of the Michael Henderson album, “In the Night Time,” certified Gold by the RIAA and in the top 10 in two of the Billboard Charts plus in the top 40 in two other Billboard Charts. WP:NMUSIC lists notability criteria as follows, “For composers, songwriters, librettists or lyricists: 1. Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition.” Sylvester Rivers is mentioned several times in existing Wikipedia articles and several Sylvester Rivers works have their own separate Wikipedia articles. The main issue seems to be verifiable sources. However, the main sources I used to verify these claims,,, and, are the same ones used in many Good Articles on many major artists such as Tony Bennett and Nicki Minaj. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. I very much appreciate it. Riversco (talk) 03:59, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

  • I'll think you will find that Nicki Minaj and Tony Bennett are not relying on allmusic et al to show notability. The fact that they are used for non-N reasons has no bearing on the fact that they are not enough on their own for Sylvester Rivers to justify his own article. With regard to mentions you will see at WP;GNG that indepth is the required standard. Sorry but you need to find something more suitable. Spartaz Humbug! 09:35, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Spartaz, for the help. Riversco (talk) 12:19, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


Hello Spartaz. Re: deletion of the page Innoculation. I went to this page expecting to find a redirect to Inoculation (as a misspelling), but according to the reason for deletion it must somehow have become tied up with WP:Articles for deletion/Inoculator. That discussion doesn't seem to make clear what state Innoculation was in at the time of deletion. However, I was wondering if at some point in its history it was a redirect to Inoculation? And if so, could it be restored and reverted to that state? That would seem to be a useful redirect – but I wanted to check with you the correct way to get there rather than just recreating the page. Thank you! Wdchk (talk) 01:36, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

  • fixed, thanks for pointing out. I can't work out if it was a script error or some nonsense around the afd. Thanks again. Spartaz Humbug! 07:58, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Mass delete?[edit]

Hello, you recently blocked User talk:SilverSurfingSerpent. As noted on the talk page, even outside of the issues of socking the user was not very careful with their editing as they raced to get to the 500 edit mark. They created a lot of articles like United States presidential election in Washington (state), 1980 and United States Senate election in Wyoming, 1988 . I checked only these two and in both of them there were significant errors - in one they got the year wrong and in the other they got the state wrong. Are they a candidate for mass deletion or is there a way to ensure all of the users work gets verified? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 09:38, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

  • deleting on sight probably needs a community ban enacting first. Spartaz Humbug! 12:46, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Array Networks DRV[edit]

Hi. A small comment about your DRV close. You said, doesn't appear to be a clear consensus here that the sourced offered guarantee a new version would pass another AFD. I think you might be holding things to a higher standard than necessary. IMHO, what we're looking for is a reasonable chance to pass AFD, not a guarantee, and then AFD can make the final call. I'm not objecting to your close, just my thoughts. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:30, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

  • i'm not sure we actually mean different things. In essence the close was endorse the prev deletion but anyone can have a go at recreating at risk from an afd. The degree of risk reflected as advice afterwards is perhaps superfluous to that finding. I'm towards the deletionist end of the scale so maybe I read the risk of failing an afd as higher then you did but we would both agree that this is for the afd to determine not drv. does this help clarify what was in my mind? Spartaz Humbug! 12:45, 30 May 2015 (UTC)