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[edit] Welcome!

Hi David Biddulph, and a warm welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you have enjoyed editing as much as I did so far and decide to stay. Unfamiliar with the features and workings of Wikipedia? Don't fret! Be Bold! Here's some good links for your reference and that'll get you started in no time!

Most Wikipedians would prefer to just work on articles of their own interest. But if you have some free time to spare, here are some open tasks that you may want to help out :

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  • RC Patrol - Keeping a lookout for vandalism.
  • Cleanup - Help make unreadable articles readable.
  • Requests - Wanted on WP, but hasn't been created.
  • Merge - Combining duplicate articles into one.
  • Wikiprojects - So many to join, so many to choose from...Take your pick!

Oh yes, don't forget to sign when you write on talk pages, simply type four tildes, like this: [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 17:34, 17 December 2005 (UTC). This will automatically add your name and the time after your comments. And finally, if you have any questions or doubts, don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Once again, welcome! =)

- Mailer Diablo 17:34, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Bugle: Issue LXIV, June 2011

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[edit] The Bugle: Issue LXV, July 2011

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[edit] Icon fix - rename pending

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[edit] Blocking a vandal

Hi, i was just wondering, since i'm not entirely sure who am i supposed to turn to in case of very frequent vandalism from an ip address, if you could help me block User talk:170.185.55.19 as you have already recently posted a warning to him and because in the 24 hours i've reverted at least 10 of his clear vandalism. Even if you could only point me in the right direction as to whom am i supposed to appeal in such cases i'll be must grateful. thx, --Macarenses (talk) 06:15, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

The place you need is WP:AIV. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:25, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

[edit] 24.232.255.8

Wanted to let you know that the user only made that edit after the long time period. If a user is warned, and doesn't get blocked, after a while of no warnings and no vandalism, from what I know, it usually is supposed to start at a level 1 warning again. Also, may I point you to the report at WP:AIV? The diff for the most recent edit to the page prior to sending you this is located here. LikeLakers2 (talk) 20:19, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

It seemed to be a continuation of the vandalism by 201.250.156.111 (talk · contribs · info · WHOIS), but point taken. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:24, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
Well, I would wish to point out that I had not much way of knowing this until I saw this reply, but thanks. :) LikeLakers2 (talk) 20:25, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

[edit] The Bugle: Issue LXVI, August 2011

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[edit] Thanks.

Thanks. I forgot to add the "talk". [1] Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:53, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

He's got the paramaters of the requested move wrong too. He's requested that List of buses be moved to Talk page for List of bus models, and the article itself. See Wikipedia:Requested moves#September 15, 2011. :-( - David Biddulph (talk) 09:57, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Help Desk

I'm not sure what happened, but when you tried to fix a previous error on the Help Desk, 18k of data disappeared, including some questions/answers added in the interim. o_O TNXMan 14:11, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I put it back to the current questions and answers (Oct 19th to 22nd), instead of the old stuff from Oct 14th to 17th which had been archived but which had been (presumaby accidentally) put in place of the current stuff. I think the question from 17th which you answered today had been previously answered before it was archived. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:31, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

[edit] My deleted entry

Thanks, David, for your message. I'm puzzled. There was a discussion, linked from elsewhere, about the inclusion of a date of birth in the Ken P. Chong article. Since I was the person who added the date of birth, I thought I had better join in the discussion. I clicked edit and just added my bit of text. I don't understand what I did wrong – and, worse, I don't know how to add to that discussion without causing the same problem again. Any chance you could enlighten me? Regards — Hebrides (talk) 14:32, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

I've copied the thread and your reply and posted it into the current WP:HD, so we've now got the current questions and answers, together with your answer to the thread which been archived before you had had a chance to answer. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:41, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks :) — Hebrides (talk) 15:14, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

[edit] A barnstar for you!

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Thanks, David for answering my first question. I have a lot of eperience and knowledge, and some major research history. However, Wiki code is NEW to me and I feel like I am floating in the ocean struggilng to keep my head above water. Cathlec (talk) 17:38, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Genting Group

Hi David. Please check the article talk. Thanks! 160.83.105.33 (talk) 04:06, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Pypbihar

I phail. Thanks a lot for spotting my error! :) Happy editing, Snowolf How can I help? 16:59, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:07, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Message for you at User talk:Cathlec

Hi there. There is an request for your feedback at User talk:Cathlec#Completed First Article. Regards SoWhy 17:53, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Message for you at User talk:Cathlec

David> I have reads some of the articles about using talk pages to communicate. Not sure yeat about a lot of the internnal workings, so took a chance. Basically, this is a test of how to communicate through another users talk page. Excuse my iignorance; hoped this work. My article has been moved because i followed a link about what to do when I finished my articel. Would still like to use you as my primary guide through this process. Thanks again, CatherineCathlec (talk) 21:07, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Your message got through, thanks, Catherine. Glad to see that your article is making progress. Hopefully by this stage others who know more about the subject (and about Wikipedia) than I do will be able to help you on from here. You'll have seen that there's quite a backlog at Category:Pending AfC submissions, but hopefully one of the experts there who specialise in new article reviews will get round to looking at it before too long. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:54, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks David. I wondered if it would have to be someone who specializes (new articles, music, discographies, etc.) who would have to review. Hope I don't have to wait to long, because I want to use the article to get help from some other sources that I need material from.. that I would like to include when I do the major expansion on Sergio Franchi's biography. But, Thanks again. (Have visited England many times when I was a ballroom dancer, but not in your region.)CatherineCathlec (talk) 20:48, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Lords vote

Thanks for your comments. I am happy to change the title from controversy to something else. However, the Bill is controversial, and the decision of almost all Liberal Lords to vote with the government is also controversial given that there is no whip in the Lords. However the information is still a fact; this is how these people voted. It cannot be WP:SOAPBOX if it is factual (not scandal mongering, advertising, self-promotion etc, etc))? I am not planning to alter 80 wikipages, I'll leave that to other people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rondoggy (talkcontribs) 13:45, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I've replied where the point was first raised, on your talk page. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:50, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Notice of discussion on voting patterns

Hi, I am contacting you to make you aware of a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom#Voting patterns, as you appear to have been implicitly reffered to within this discussion as an editor who has previously commented on this matter elsewhere or involved in reversions pertaining to this. Any comments to reach a consensus are welcomed. I have endevored to comply with guidelines with this notice.. Thanks, Zangar (talk) 12:31, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Nuclear subs

Whoops! Yes, sorry, I was correcting an incorrect "all British nuclear subs were built at Barrow" point in one article, knew that wasn't right, but then read that only Conqueror was not a Barrow-built sub elsewhere... I'll have to amend a few articles! David (talk) 09:55, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] The Bugle: Issue LXVII, September 2011

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[edit] Chesham to Chalfont and Latimer.

Your cite only goes to confirm that the distance between those stations on the Metropolitan Line is NOT the longest distance between stations on the Metropolitan Line. Finchley Road to Wembley Park is still nearly twice as long. There are no intervening stations on the Metropolitan Line. Redrose64 attempted to bullshit his way out of this by claiming that some Metropolitan Line trains stopped at two of the intervening Jubilee Line stations. The Metropolitan Line timetable betrays this as a lie as no trains make station stops between Finchley Road and Wembley Park (at least none that TfL are aware of). 109.156.49.202 (talk) 14:46, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

As someone else has pointed out, the cited ref wasn't talking about distances between stations on the Met line, but between stations on the network. Also please remember WP:civility, WP:AGF, and WP:NPA, and don't accuse Redrose64 of "a lie" and "bullshit". We know that the Met trains don't usually stop there, but they do stop there during service disruptions and (unadvertised) on some early morning and late evening services. See here, for example. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:24, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I conceed the point. The article was ambiguous because it was talking about the Metropolitan Line. It then vaguely referred to 'the network' without making it clear that this was not the Metropolitan Line network, but the whole tube network, hence my misinterpretation. Still, it's much clearer now, so a positive result - eventually. 109.156.49.202 (talk) 16:43, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Agreed. Now clear. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:45, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Leave a message link

I have no idea, I have only just noticed it redirects to another user's talk page. It's fixed now though. Stevo1000 (talk) 21:23, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] WT:CRIC

Hi David. Thanks for your help earlier on. All the best. ----Jack | talk page 15:41, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Glass

Please see Wikipedia:Help_desk#recent_edit_I_suggested. Ta.  Chzz  ►  02:20, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that was what prompted me to look at the article in the first place. I corrected the obvious error which had put something in front of the existing lede, but it needs more work than I have time for. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:29, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Footnote formatting

Re: footnote layout for Decibel, I have no objection to your change, but you may be interested in WP:CITEBUNDLE. --Noleander (talk) 02:12, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I hadn't seen that before. I had originally intended merely to cure a formatting error in the list of new refs, so I'll go back and do that. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] French Military articles.

The sad thing is that with a little bit of training and following of the rules, he (User talk:G St-Germain) could be *really* good wikipedia editor.Naraht (talk) 17:24, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, quite agree. That was why I've been trying to point him in the right direction. My guess is that it's a language problem. If all else fails I might try some of my schoolboy French on him, but that may do more harm than good.  :-) I didn't want to go too far down the road of correcting all his errors, because that way he wouldn't learn what he needs to change. We'll keep trying. I didn't want to get too heavy too early, but I thought that after the previous efforts at advice from a number of us hadn't borne fruit, we needed to make it clear that he couldn't carry on the way he was going. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:31, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Could you explain this edit? 71.146.20.62 (talk) 02:11, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

An error, hence the self-reversion a minute later. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:22, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] The Bugle: Issue LXVIII, October 2011

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[edit] Thanks

Just to say thanks for your input at the Diane Coyle article. It can be a thankless task dealing with COI editors and I appreciate your help.--Shakehandsman (talk) 18:25, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I sympathise with her predicament, but she didn't seem to be listening to the earlier gentle warnings, and didn't look as if she was going to follow the proper route for getting the problem solved. Good that a number of other people are taking an interest. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:41, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] A404 editing...

I am still a new boy, and much appreciate any help. Thank you for correcting my stupid ,careless mistake. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:13, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. Those of us who have been here for years still make stupid careless mistakes.  :-( David Biddulph (talk) 12:16, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Warning levels?

Why are you starting with level 4 warnings on standard vandalism, as in this edit? Usually, we use a series of escalating warnings, jumping to level 4 only for extremely poor behavior. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Because there have been numerous instances of vandalism since the return from a 2 week block last month. If I had thought that the IP might probably have been used by multiple users I might not have been so severe, but the articles being vandalised looked to me to indicate the same persistent vandal. YMMV, of course. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:33, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] The Bugle: Issue LXIX, November 2011

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[edit] List of Governors-General of New Zealand

I actually want the point of my edits (removing the acting ones) to be kept but the thechnical faults to be solved.--46.246.230.229 (talk) 13:03, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

You've done so many changes, and upset the formatting of the table at so many different changes, that it looks as if it would be easier to put it back as it was, then you can do your changes again but check that you've got them right (using "Show preview") before you save them. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:11, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
I did that maaaany times. I tried to fix it by any possible means. The truth is that I don't know how to do. Can you or someone do it for me or try to explain me how it works?--46.246.230.229 (talk) 13:19, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
OK, I reverted everything. We may take it from the begining.--46.246.230.229 (talk) 13:26, 30 December 2011 (UTC)


OK, OK, calm down. I reverted everything. Can you tell me how to do it without technical faults?--46.246.230.229 (talk) 13:30, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

I've corrected the first error on the table. Tables are complicated. There is some help at Help:Table. The main thing is to check it as you go using "Show preview" to make sure that the change has done what you intended. Don't save until you have checked. If you find tables difficult you may want to avoid that sort of edit. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:35, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
I've already read it but I did not understand anything. I looked at the code again and again and again... but I could not even understand my error. Can you do it for me, please?--46.246.230.229 (talk) 13:40, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
I don't have time to spare at the moment. If you can't cope with tables yourself, you may want to try suggesting changes at the article talk page, and see whether anyone else wants to do it. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:51, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

[edit] E1 Music

Hi David--

You helped me post a merge proposal for E1 Music last month. In the meantime the article has now been anonymously vandalized with several sequential changes, only the last of which I've undone. I don't know the procedure for restoring it to its pre-vandal state. Thanks for any help here. Milkunderwood (talk) 21:04, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Done. In future, if you look at the article history and select differences between the last good version and the vandalised version you can then select the "undo" option and that will undo the lot. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:11, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks very much. So what you mean is to go back to the initial vandalism, and that will automatically undo the entire lot, with all the subsequent ones? (Just being careful that there are no intervening legitimate posts of course.) Milkunderwood (talk) 21:23, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
True. For experienced users it is also possible to obtain a "rollback" privilege to allow successive vandalism edits by the same user to be reverted in one click, and there are also various tools (such as Twinkle) to do similar things, but of course any such tools must be used with caution. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:29, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Well, I'm more a visitor than an "editor". I very rarely run into this situation, but I might need to visit with you again some time in the future if I find a sticky one. I knew there a prohibition against undoing multiple edits sequentially, so this tip will be helpful. Thanks again for your help. Milkunderwood (talk) 03:16, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm not aware of any such "prohibition" per se, but if possible it's cleaner to deal with them as a batch. - David Biddulph (talk) 03:44, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh - I thought it was illegal to reverse on a page more than 3 times, is what I've been told, but maybe I misunderstood the context.

Actually, let me ask you an entirely different question also: What is the easiest way to track article "moves" where the title is changed, but it wasn't described as such in the edit summary so that you can just look down through the history? Or is there an easy way at all? Backing up one edit at a time just displays changes in the text, not the title. And sometimes a title is changed without going through a proposal (actually I've done that myself). Milkunderwood (talk) 03:56, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

A move should appear in the article history, and also in the Move log, and will appear in your watchlist if you are watching the article. Moves can often not be reverted without admin help, but it depends on the circumstances. A move doesn't need a move proposal if it is uncontroversial (such as correcting a spelling error); more detail at Wikipedia:Moving a page. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:07, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
That answers my question - I wasn't aware of the Move log.
And now that I think of it, I bet the context of the 3 reverts was for the same edit, which would be edit warring. Milkunderwood (talk) 04:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
The three revert rule doesn't necessarily mean the same edit, but reversion of "obvious vandalism" is specifically exempted from that rule. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:28, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Military Historian of the Year

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[edit] The Bugle: Issue LXX, January 2012

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[edit] Section headings

Thank you kindly, sir. Have a good day. CaptainScreebo Parley! 12:41, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. If there were any sections that ought to have been sub-sections of the one above, I may have missed them in the change I did, but you'd be able to sort that out easily. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:43, 15 February 2012 (UTC)


[edit] Many thanks

Many thanks for your response to my query at Wikipedia: Help desk, in view of the mess I made - inadvertently, I hasten to add - of the article List of chocolate bar brands. The article is looking good now - the presentation of it is better than it was first thing today (February 16 2012)! Again, thank you for your help. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:16, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. I was in the process of restoring the table header, but someone else got there first. Now all we need is to be able to taste a sample of each.  :-) - David Biddulph (talk) 15:57, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Facebook's Open source contributions

We already have a topic on this on the talk page. Raysonho (talk) 04:02, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I have read that. Please read Wikipedia's policies, and stop your disruptive edits to the article. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:06, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I am adding refs - and no, my edits are not disruptive. Raysonho (talk) 04:10, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
You have been told that Facebook is not a reliable source, and yet despite the warnings you have continued your edit war. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:14, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Then let me ask you again, did you read the talk page carefully? The facebook page is the project homepage of MySQL contributions maintained by software developers working on MySQL. Not every single page on facebook is unreliable. Raysonho (talk) 04:18, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
What is stopping you, or me, or any other Facebook contributor, from posting on that Facebook page? Much better to find a reference to an authoritative publication. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:35, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Only the Facebook engineers who contribute to MySQL can post on that Facebook page, others can comment on the page.
And that's the project homepage that centralizes all the MySQL contribution activities from facebook. Raysonho (talk) 04:57, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Let me add that the page is nicer because no other pages group the contribution from facebook better than that page - e.g. More changes shared for the Facebook patch. I've added the link to the source as the 2nd ref, and as the source code does not lie, it is a better "reliable source". Raysonho (talk) 05:08, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit] The Bugle: Issue LXXI, February 2012

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