User talk:Jim62sch

in memoriam: Karl Ramjohn and Floyd Lucas [1] Pax caelis sibi ago

Per me si va ne la città dolente,
per me si va ne l'etterno dolore,
per me si va tra la perduta gente.

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Thanks so much

When I think of all of us who worked together so hard for so long, I think of the line from Henry V We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...

It was a fun ride, wasn't it? So thanks you guys, that meant a lot to me.

Who did the Thelonious with a mop artwork? Brilliant! FeloniousMonk 08:21, 27December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for supporting my Rfa, Jim! Please do not ever, for any reason, feel you need to take off your shoes for me. Unless you use odor-eaters, I am concerned what the consequences might be. The puppy is now an Admin (final tally 58/7/2) Please let me know if there is anything I can ever do to assist you. KillerChihuahua?!? 17:22, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

...And never apologize for fixing my grammar, typing or spelling! I appreciate the assist! KillerChihuahua^?!? 18:26, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

This edit

Your bluntness is refreshing considering the level of duplicitous doublespeak used by certain editors. I congratulate you. If I only had the balls to say what you do, I'd be happier on here!!! Orangemarlin 22:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Gnixon had bitched that FM had reverted his digression without comment, that doing so wasn't fair, that he (nixon) had taken a very long time to write the digression, that he was insulted, et cetera, et cetera, ad nauseam (and I really do mean nausea) -- so, I only thought it fair to provide a reason for the rv lest Mr Nixon thought I was being unfair towards him  ;) Ugh, sometimes Wiki can be more drama and trouble than than a soap opera and we can't even win an Emmy for our efforts. •Jim62sch• 10:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Watch out, that editor will file some Rf something because you've insulted him. I gave up editing articles where he was located, because he whines if you revert any of his POV pushing edits. I decided it isn't worth the effort. I'm having fun with some nice intellectual pursuits on here. Orangemarlin 11:22, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

He's free too do so, of course, I don't mind. Of course, the process can be used the other way too: he's a rather tendentious, POV-pushing editor who frequently wreaks havoc on the pages he edits, including causing other editors to avoid articles he is actively editing due to the nature of his edits, particularly on the talk pages. Wouldn't surprise me if a few folks aren't already considering an RfC on his behaviour. •Jim62sch• 17:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I guess you're stalking. Diff I was accused of the same. [2] I just plain gave up on it. There comes a point when someone's POV pushing needs to pushed back by someone else, because I just don't have the time or energy to be nice about the push back. You should check out some of his POV edits. If you think I'm wrong, then please tell me. If you think I'm right, I could use some help. Orangemarlin 19:22, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, he apologised...sort of. POV edits on Physics or on ID (I know he's done some stuff there) or elsewhere? I don't care about his staking charges -- if an editor is running around making changes with a specific POV that he's pushing in violation of policy, fixing those edits is not stalking. See [3] Following an editor to another article to continue disruption (also known as wikistalking)

-- "This does not include checking up on an editor to fix errors or violations of Wikipedia policy, nor does it mean reading a user's contribution log; those logs are public for good reason." •Jim62sch• 09:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Is this an appeasement too far? Is this chappie to be the patron saint of faith based npov? Time for coffee and kip. .. dave souza, talk 20:56, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Yep, reminds me of Chamberlain after Munich. •Jim62sch• 21:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Beyond the Fringe 1961:

Oi'll never forget that day that war was declared

Oi was out in the gaarden at the time, planting out some chrysants

It was a grand year for chrysants 1939, oi had some lovely blooms

My wife came out to me in the gaarden and told me the Prime Minister's announcement of the outbreak of war

Never mind, my dear, oi said to 'er. You put on the kettle, we'll have a nice cup of tea

<avoids mentioning the appeaser Chamberlain actually declared war on the Nazis, unlike some who waited till Hitler declared war on them. Ahem. Just trivia with no relevance to present company> Ta for your assistance, may the Good NPOV prevail........ 09:36, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Why did ye cross out the delaration info? •Jim62sch• 09:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Just an inadequate html attempt to replicate typical British-style muttering brought on by the reminder of all those black-and-white war films. Gad, the horrors of war films. Chamberlain is much maligned, mostly deservedly. Meanwhile, the battle of ID continues, without my participation for a bit. What make you of recent goings on? .. dave souza, talk 15:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I know the question wasn't meant for me, but let me put in my opinion on the ID discussions. It appears that there are 2-3 POV pushers who seem to be exceedingly patient in the matter. One of the pushers complains that he's a "pot smoking liberal" but doesn't agree with the lack of NPOV on the ID article. As a matter of fact, very few "liberals" brag about their pot smoking. I don't inhale whenever I do. Another of the POV-pushers uses a technique of throwing in dozens of edits. Most of them look very legitimate but two or three are in fact very POV (anti-Evolution, in this case). Another one just keeps pushing the anti-Evolution POV over and over. Guettarda has indicated that there might be some interesting activities afloat to push a pro-religion agenda, and they are very careful as to how they do it. These users appear to be doing so. Another issue is that the several editors who have stood up to the POV-pushers aren't around. I've given up, because frankly, it's not worth responding to every bogus argument they make. Then if you do accuse them of their POV pushing, they file an WP:ANI, which takes more time. I'm frustrated by what's happening. ID is nothing more than a subtle religious argument for creationism. Why is there such discussions going on? I like Jim's responses--he's blunt, and could care less about what they creationists say about him. This whole thing is depressing. Orangemarlin 16:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

<unindent> It's a bit more complex, as Morphh raised a genuine point which was backed up by a reading of Kitzmiller, leading to the current use of version 2. Despite the ghastly heading of "Just the facts, ma'm" which had me looking to see if it was a rasping person, Tomandlu is genuine and ok, imo. As I write, a useful suggestion is being put forward and agreed by Gnixon, who appears to be fair and against pro-ID pov, judging by recent actions. Looks promising, but I'm thinking about it before commenting... dave souza, talk 17:55, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow

Lovely work on God - the article is improving enormously. KillerChihuahua^?!? 22:04, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I actually didn't know you were such an expert Jim. I know who to run to for help on all of these religion articles.  :) Orangemarlin 02:02, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks guys. ;) •Jim62sch• 18:03, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Latin

I wish I could read it. Sophia 22:19, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I have written what I have written, but you have not read what I have written. (Technically, I should have done "scripsi quod scripsi", but I didn't want to mess up the biblical reference.)  ;) •Jim62sch• 22:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I like that one - I may use it and pretend I know latin! Sophia 06:46, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

You might like this one too (I leave it as an edit summary when I get frustrated with Fundies trying to do things like put dinosaurs on Noah's Ark): "In principio creavit homo dei et ex eo tempore poenas dederat" In the beginning, man created the gods and he's been paying for it ever since.  ;) •Jim62sch• 10:15, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Or my favorite, Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur - "Anything said in Latin sounds profound". I find it useful in dealing with Jim. (:-P) OTOH, Non gradus anus rodentum may be more to your liking. KillerChihuahua^?!? 19:40, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

No step ass rat? What? If you meant what I think you did, it's not translatable. Nil morari is the closest you can get. Interesting tidbit: in Latin, the root of "profound" (found most often in the phrase de profundis), is the exact opposite of "altum" in the quote. •Jim62sch• 20:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Nil carborundum illegitemii! Which reminds me, Johnson is regarded as the father of ID, but it was evidently conceived in 1987 before he'd even heard of it, which casts some doubt on the legitimacy of the offspring.... dave souza, talk 20:53, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Bad sign when illegitemi reminds one of Johnson, but it's true.  :) •Jim62sch• 21:44, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm taking the slow approach at the hypothemyth page - it's not worth getting frustrated about. Also Str is OK with me - we have our moments but with enough time and attempts to work out what each other mean, we should end up with a stable title. Ta for the latin - they will come in useful when I want to look educated! Sophia 16:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I can't figure Str out -- he makes some good edits and some really bad ones. Sometimes his logic is sound, other times it's seriously flawed. And I really wish he'd leave the language stuff alone -- he has no clue what he's on about. Now, I have to go try to stabilise that section. Grrrr. •Jim62sch• 17:15, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Maybe he's flawed like all of us. He made a point over at one article or another, where he was very logical. However, I still disagreed with him. Orangemarlin 22:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

The joys of being human.  :)

In any case, on the God article he's busy claiming that Allah is not the Muslim name for God, while claiming "nameship" for a variety of other "words". I really wish that people who know nothing of linguistics would leave linguistic/etymological issues alone. •Jim62sch• 20:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Thought for a new day

The sun is shining for the moment here, so after all that πολεμικως, Pack Up Your Troubles in Your Old Kit-Bag :) ...dave souza, talk 07:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Were you the only one to catch the irony? I laugh...so as not to cry. •Jim62sch• 09:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

You pointed it out, you blighter! As noted here, that apposite article was a nice example of writing therapy. As it happens, it was inspired by one of the usual topic related arguments when someone mentioned faggots which in my opinion are ok but a bit more disgusting looking than haggis – but then I recall you have your own regional delicacies that outsiders probably don't appreciate. Chacun à son goût springs to mind, but I can't quite remember what it means. ... dave souza, talk 10:36, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

"Everybody has gout." Bishonen | talk 10:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC).

Yes, very close. Each to his own taste. •Jim62sch• 21:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

OK, revising my version: "Everybody tastes good." Bishonen | talk 21:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC).

Oooh, I like that one!  :) •Jim62sch• 21:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I have excellent French. I can say "J'ai assassiné mon oncle au'jourd'hui dans le jardin." And I'm working on some more phrases! Bishonen | talk 21:50, 31 August 2007 (UTC).

PS. Nothing yet — I guess I only have an excellent sentence. Oh well. Bishonen | talk 21:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC).

What did your uncle do and why was he in the garden? •Jim62sch• 23:46, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The Original Barnstar

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		I'm awarding you this barnstar for your help in rewriting the homeopathy article. It is now implemented and hopefully will improve even further in the near future. Great job! Wikidudeman (talk) 14:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated. Sorry I've not been of much help lately, but things have been a bit crazy. And, thanks for tackling the rewrite -- quite a challenge you took on. Nice job. •Jim62sch• 16:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Noetic necropathy

Just noticed that one.[4] It's a keeper. Raymond Arritt 19:32, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.  :) •Jim62sch• 20:43, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Greek question

Is this edit correct? JoshuaZ (talk) 18:00, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Believe it or not, yes. The Theta actually represented an aspirated "t" not the th sound in either this (call an edh) or think (called a thorn). Two asprirated T's would've been a bit much for the Roman tongue (and, it's unlikely both T's were aspirated even in Greek by the 1st or 2nd century CE -- the t's weren't initially aspirated in Hebrew, but the Greek spelling comes from a contraction of Mattathias, and the first theta represents the middle vowel (the lack of which may have been mistaken for aspiration in Hebrew)). Yep, clear as mud.

Anyway, see Matthew 9:9, look for Μαθθαιον (accusative of Μαθθαιος) •Jim62sch•^dissera! 22:39, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, now I feel ignorant. Are you aware of a good source we could stick in the article to back this up? JoshuaZ (talk) 23:55, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll check into one. •Jim62sch•^dissera! 10:39, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

German translation

Hi again Jim. Here I am again to request another translation, this time in German. Whenever you have a couple of minutes to spare could you have a look at this image. I'm ok with the map's labeling but need a little help with the key. Any help would be much appreciated. --Gibmetal 77^talk 20:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Gib. Here goes ...

Iberoromanische Sprachen = Ibero-Romance languages

Spanisch bzw Kastillisch = Spanish, aka, Castillian

Asturisch = Asturian

Galicisch = Galician

Portugiesich = Portuguese

Katalanische mit etc., = Catalan, including Valencian and Balearic.

Aragonesisch = Aragonese

Andere Spachen = Other languages

Gaskonish = Gascon (a form of Langue d'oc

Languedokisch = Langue d'oc

Baskisch = Basque

Englisch - well, I'm sure you got that one  :)

Hope this helps. •Jim62sch•^dissera! 20:37, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Wow, that was quick! Thank you very much, I can now go ahead and create an English and Spanish version of the map. Thanks again, and I hope you don't mind me asking for your help with translations every so often! --Gibmetal 77^talk 20:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to ask away, this is the kind of stuff I like.  :) Please let me know when the map is done, I'd like to see how it turns out. •Jim62sch•^dissera! 21:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that's good to know! I'm just planning to label over the existing image, I'm a lot better at product design than I am at graphic design. Will let you know when I upload it anyway. Gracias de nuevo y hasta luego! --Gibmetal 77^talk 21:52, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Wishing you the very best for the season. Guettarda (talk) 06:06, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy Darwin200 Year! . dave souza, talk 21:57, 1 January 2009 (UTC) (for story line see Darwin's Rhea#Discovery) Tritto!

Ditto! •Jim62sch•^dissera! 18:17, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

You deserve this

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		For edits like this and this. You know that I disagree with you to hell and back over nonfree image use, but you're able to remember that the other guy is human too. You remind me of a neighbor and friend of mine, with whom I disagree fundamentally on just about every major political issue. Yet I drink beer with him and would die for his right to defend his mistaken views. Keep being a human being. John (talk) 05:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you: I accept it proudly. I too have a friend with whom I disagree often, which explains why I was the best man at his wedding, LOL. I don't mind disagreements so long as they're intelligently argued, and I think we've both done that from our respective perspectives ... hmm, "Respective Perspective" could be an album title. But, I digress. I know we'll never agree on this issue, and so it goes: on the other hand we have "Weapons and war " and "Aviation" as common interests, and I too despise "Overlinking in general". Now, how about a beer?  :) •Jim62sch•^dissera! 20:12, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll have a Guinness please, especially if you are paying...--John (talk) 20:42, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

...in the BUFF...

Re: "BTW, BQ, is it true that BUFFs are cramped, smelly, sweaty, etc? I've never been inside one, but as an aviation geek, I love the plane and I'm just a bit curious"

Interesting that you posed this question while I was flying in one over Texas this afternoon. They are not spacious, but I've been in the T-37 and this thing is quite spacious by those standards. It isn't an airliner or anything but has seating for 10 (6 in ejection seats) with a standard crew of 5. There is only one spot you can stand all the way up in and that is at the base of the ladder. The jet I flew on today first flew in 1961 and others on the flightline were from 1960. Doing the math in my head (and mind you I'm just a newbie with 3 flights under my belt) that makes them about 49 years old. The seat cushions are original equipment and don't have much "cushion" in them. 49 years of guys puking during low levels into their masks, the seats, etc. After a few hours, the smell does become nauseating. I've never gotten airsick before the BUFF, but I threw up after 3 hours in the pattern. Apparently flying backwards with no windows will do that to a lot of people. Just about every military jet is "sweaty" when you get inside because they don't apply power to the aircraft until after the crew gets there (unlike airliners).

In any case, I have to debrief my flight in 7 hours and I need some sleep. G'night. If you have any more questions, just drop me a line. If I can't tell you the answer, I'll just let you know. — BQZip01 — ^talk 06:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. Flying in a BUFF doesn't sound any too pleasurable, but you guys have an important role in our defense -- although trying to remember that while puking is probably pretty difficult! I suppose, all things being equal, I'd rather be a pilot as you at least can see where you're going. Anyway, you have my appreciation for the job you're doing, just wish you wouldn't get airsick (must he horrible). Take care. •Jim62sch•^dissera! 16:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Meh. It is a warplane and it wasn't designed to be a pleasure cruise.

A couple of stories:

1. There was an F-16 that took off and the pilot noticed his engine was running a little hot. After a few more minutes it was reaching dangerous levels, so he turned around and headed home. As he approached the field, he declared an emergency and was told "Roger, you are number 2 behind a B-52 on short final."

"Tower, why am I number 2? What's his problem?"

"The B-52 has an engine shut down."

The F-16 pilot pondered the situation for a moment, then said, "I see...the dreaded seven engine approach..."

1. During the Vietnam War, an F-4 was escorting a B-52 into his target. While doing that mission, he was having a ball doing barrel rolls, loops, and assorted aerial maeneuvers while taunting the BUFFs, "I betcha can't do this!"

One veteran BUFF driver had enough and said, "Oh yeah! I bet you can't do this!" About a minute later he says, "There!"

"Uh, I didn't see anything," said the F-4 pilot. "What'd you do?"

"I just got up and got a cup of coffee, took a whiz, and shut down an engine and I'm waiting for you to top that!"

Cheers! — BQZip01 — ^talk 17:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Crew comfort isn't necessarily number one, I guess. LOL.

The stories were great, feel free to share more. The dreaded seven engine approach, indeed. As much as I've always loved the F-16, only one engine would make me a bit nervous as a pilot. •Jim62sch•^dissera! 18:38, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks

I never thanked for your condolence note last year, but I appreciate it more than I can possibly express. All the best, in friendship. Guettarda (talk) 16:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

We miss you around these parts. Hoping to see you back with the New Year. Guettarda (talk) 16:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Nobel Prize

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Your note to OM

Sadly, it seems the goldfish has left the building without comment after receipt of a short admin action. WP is much the poorer for it. LeadSongDog come howl! 18:52, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to hear it,and yeah, wp is much poorer for the loss. Thanks for letting me know. •Jim62sch•^dissera! 02:52, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello again

Good to see you back, not so good to see your painful header. Bad news, can only hope things somehow get better. . dave souza, talk 18:24, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Dave. Much appreciated, I assure you. •Jim62sch•^dissera! 23:32, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Help:English to Latin Translation

Hello! I need some help on English to Latin translation. Please help me to translate the following list of english words to Latin.

• Bishop of Rome
• Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople
• Patriarch of Alexandria
• Patriarch of Antioch
• Patriarch of Jerusalem

Thank you. Amit6 (talk) 18:53, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Amit,

I'd use:

• biscopus romae (although if you mean the big bishop, it'd just be the pope)
• patriarchus ecumenicus constantinopoli
• patriarchus alexandrae
• patriarchus antiochi
• patriarchus Ierusalem (Jerusalem isn't declined, per se)

I'd note though that place names weren't always declined... •Jim62sch•^dissera! 22:12, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

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Sorry to bother you but I would really appreciate it if you came over to Talk:2012 phenomenon. The conversation I've had over there is moving far beyond my comfort zone and I don't really feel I can meaningfully contribute anymore. Serendi^podous 10:30, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll do my best to try to help... •Jim62sch•^dissera! 02:35, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

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Good thing the bloody Crown didn't sue us over the course of the past four-and-one-half years, eh wut? •Jim62sch•^dissera! 06:43, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

BTW, it'd be really neat if a link were included to the policy page re images. •Jim62sch•^dissera! 06:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Apologies for the automated notice. It's not just the Brits - pretty much all governments copyright their work, include US state governments. US Federal Government is the (useful) anomaly! TheGrappler (talk) 15:24, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

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Hi. Can you possibly take a look at the changes an anonymous editor wishes to make here? Thanks. --John (talk) 13:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

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Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive! The Wikipedia Guild of Copy-Editors invites you to participate in the November 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive will begin on 1 November at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on 30 November at 23:59 (UTC). The goal for this drive is to reduce the backlog by 10% (approximately 500 articles). We hope to focus our efforts on the oldest three months (January, February, and March 2009) and the newest three months (September, October, and November 2010) of articles in the queue. Sign-up has already begun at the November drive page, and will be open throughout the drive. If you have any questions or concerns, please leave a message on the drive's talk page. Before you begin copy-editing, please carefully read the instructions on the main drive page. Please make sure that you know how to copy-edit, and be familiar with the Wikipedia Manual of Style. Awards and barnstars A range of barnstars will be awarded to active participants, some of which are exclusive to GOCE drives. More information on awards can be found on the main drive page. Thank you; we look forward to meeting you on the drive! — The UtahraptorTalk to me/Contributions, S Masters (talk), and Diannaa (Talk)

GOCE elections

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Elections are currently underway for our inaugural Guild coordinators. The voting period will run for 14 days: 00:01 UTC, Friday 1 December – 23:59 UTC, Tuesday 14 December. All GOCE members in good standing, as well as past participants of any of the Guild's Backlog elimination drives, are eligible to vote. There are six candidates vying for four positions. The candidate with the highest number of votes will become the Lead Coordinator, therefore, your vote really matters! Cast your vote today.

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AfD

Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evolutionism (2nd nomination), since you contributed to the article. Steve Dufour (talk) 02:20, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Ussgeraldrford.jpg

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Ussgeraldrford.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. --Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:25, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

GOCE Year-end Report

Season's Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2010. Read all about these in the Guild's 2010 Year-End Report. Highlights Membership grows to 503 editors 2,589 articles removed through four Backlog elimination drives Our encounter with Jimbo Wales Guild home pages reorganized and redesigned Report on our inaugural elections Guild Plans for 2011 New barnstars introduced Requests page improved Sign up for the January 2011 Backlog elimination drive! Get your copy of the Guild's 2010 Year-End Report here On behalf of the Guild, we take this opportunity to wish you Season's Greetings and Happy New Year. See you in 2011! – Your Coordinators: S Masters (lead), Diannaa, The Utahraptor, and Tea with toast.

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Hogmanay greeting

Thank you very much for working with me in 2010 to make the encyclopedia a better place. Regardless of any disagreements we may have had, I want to wish you all the very best for 2011. I look forward to working with you, and I hope for health and happiness to you and your family in the year to come. I therefore send you this glass of the cratur, so you can celebrate, whether it is Hogmanay or New Year's Day where you are. Warmest regards, --John (talk) 04:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Int -Tom Doak.jpg

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how many years ago was this added? •Jim62sch•^dissera! 08:16, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter

The Guild of Copy Editors – May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive The Guild of Copy Editors invite you to participate in the May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive began on May 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on May 31 at 23:59 (UTC). The goals of this backlog elimination drive are to eliminate as many articles as possible from the 2009 backlog and to reduce the overall backlog by 15%. ! NEW ! In an effort to encourage the final elimination of all 2009 articles, we will be tracking them on the leaderboard for this drive. Awards and barnstars A range of barnstars will be awarded to active participants. Some are exclusive to GOCE drives. More information on awards can be found on the main drive page. We look forward to meeting you on the drive! Your GOCE coordinators: SMasters, Diannaa, Tea with toast, Chaosdruid, and Torchiest

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Salut!

Jim est-ce que vous m'avez envoyé récemment quelque chose par courriel? CSTAR (talk) 17:15, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Non, mon ami. mon livre d'adresses du corriel a été "hacked". Je suis désolé. •Jim62sch•^dissera! 20:06, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

I note with pleasure

That you exist. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 20:20, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

thanks, my friend...been a rough two years...What I thought was just GAD and MDD was really bi-polar disorder(which explains a few things I did on here). Fortunately, seroquel seems to work fairly well...or it could all be in my head.  :) •Jim62sch•^dissera! 20:28, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

For me too. Not that I'm competitive, but I think I could trump your life story. IMHO. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 00:37, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, you're on,,,you know my e-mail addy right? Und ze two men schtruggle to fint out who ze shittiest life hass hat. •Jim62sch•^dissera! 05:41, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

You're invited to the Philadelphia Wiknic!

In the Azalea Garden, just behind the Philadelphia Museum of Art, near the Fairmount Water Works Sign up at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Philadelphia/Wiknic#Interested_Wikipedians.

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GOCE drive newsletter

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their September 2011 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy editing backlog. The drive will begin on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on September 30 at 23:59 (UTC). We will be tracking the number of 2010 articles in the backlog, as we want to copy edit as many of those as possible. Please consider copy editing an article that was tagged in 2010. Barnstars will be given to anyone who edits more than 4,000 words, with special awards for the top 5 in the categories "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". See you at the drive! – Your drive coordinators: Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02, and SMasters. >>> Sign up now <<<

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Translation help needed

Hey, I saw you mentioned at Wikipedia:Translators_available#Latin-to-English. Translation help needed for the articles Rus' people, Rus (name), Kievan Rus', Rus' Khaganate, and probably also Varangians and Annales Bertiniani.

Original Latin source: [5] (starting with "Venerunt etiam legati Graecorum a Theophilo imperatore directi, Theodosius videlicet, Calcedonensis metropolitanus episcopus, et Theophanius spatharius, ferentes cum donis imperatore dignis epistolam quos imperator quinto decimo Kalendas Iunii in Ingulenheim honorifice suscepit" on that page, and continuing AFAIK for two more pages).

The Latin source I need help on is the Annales Bertiniani, which is a collection of Frankish annals that was completed in 882 AD. The issue behind this is the historical first mention of the Rus' people, which was a Norse tribe, also known as the Varangians from Sweden that, starting in the 9th century from Novgorod and Kiev (Kievan Rus') and allegedly under the leadership of their chieftain Rurik (or rather RøRikR in Old Norse) conquered portions of the Baltics and today's northwestern Russia, a realm which was soon known as the Rus' Khaganate (with the result that lots of placenames, such as Novgorod, actually have an Old Norse etymology). Eventually, the Rus' Khaganate, even though the Norse ruling elite was but small and soon assimilated to the Balto-Slavic population, became the nucleus and namegiver for modern Russia.

The thing is, this so-called Normannic theory is still kinda controversial, as modern Russian scholars often regard it as a modern romantic nationalist myth originating with late-19th century Pan-Germanism. What the Russians are saying is that the original Rus were actually Slavs. Now, these 9th century Annales Bertiniani seem to be a rather authoritative, and, given their time of origination, pretty concise, source to refute these Russian scholars.

What I get of this Latin text is only the gist of it. Apparently, a delegation of Rus people were interrogated by Frankish Emperor Louis the Pious at Ingelheim am Rhein in 839 AD, where they said that:

• the name of their tribe was Rus (spelled "Rhos" in this Latin text, maybe via Byzantine Greek translation? As far as I can tell, a letter from Byzantine Emperor Theophilos or Michael III is mentioned),
• they originally came from Sweden
• but had settled in what is northwestern Russia today (I find this information several times in modern sources, attributing it to the Annales Bertiniani, but *WHAT THE HECK* was their contemporary name for "northwestern Russia"?), and
• that they had switched to calling their chieftains chacanus now.

Chacanus is Latin for Khagan, a title they had likely borrowed from contact with the Avars while conquering from the Baltic coast southward. It's why their realm in centuries to come was to be known as the Rus' Khaganate.

But what I need for good sourcing is an exact translation of portions relevant to the informations bulleted above. Original Latin text at [6] (starting with "Venerunt etiam legati Graecorum a Theophilo imperatore directi, Theodosius videlicet, Calcedonensis metropolitanus episcopus, et Theophanius spatharius, ferentes cum donis imperatore dignis epistolam quos imperator quinto decimo Kalendas Iunii in Ingulenheim honorifice suscepit" on that page, and continuing AFAIK for two more pages). --79.193.34.87 (talk) 02:58, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their November 2011 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on November 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on November 30 at 23:59 (UTC). We will be tracking the number of 2010 articles (and specifically will be targeting the oldest three months), as we want to copy edit as many of these as possible. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 5 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02, and SMasters. >>> Sign up now <<<

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Requiem

Vanity of vanities, saith the preacher; all is vanity.

And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs.

The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth.

The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.

And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.87.63.208 (talk) 22:42, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Uh...OK...odd form of spam... •Jim62sch•^dissera! 01:48, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

GOCE newsletter

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Elections are currently underway for our third tranche of Guild coordinators. The voting period will run for 14 days: 00:01 UTC, 16 December – 23:59 UTC, 31 December. All GOCE members, as well as past participants of any of the Guild's Backlog elimination drives, are eligible to vote. There are five candidates vying for four positions. Your vote really matters! Cast your vote today.

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GOCE 2011 Year-End Report

Guild of Copy Editors 2011 Year-End Report We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2011. Read all about these in the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report. Highlights Membership grows to 764 editors, an increase of 261 Report on coordinators' elections Around 1,000 articles removed through six Backlog elimination drives Guild Plans for 2012 Requests page report Sign up for the January 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Get your copy of the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report here On behalf of the Guild, we take this opportunity to wish you Season's Greetings and Happy New Year. We look forward to your support in 2012! – Your 2011 Coordinators: Diannaa (lead), The Utahraptor, and Slon02 and SMasters (emeritus).

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WikiProject Romania

Hi! From your edits, it looks like you might be interested to contribute to WikiProject Romania. It is a project aimed to better organize and improve the quality and accuracy of the articles related to Romania. Thanks and best regards!

--Codrin.B (talk) 06:10, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Portuguese translation

Hello. I was on Wikipedia:Translators available and notice that you were on the list for Portuguese to English translators and wondered if you could translate John VI of Portugal and/or Amélie of Leuchtenberg? Thank you or obrigado.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 00:10, 30 January 2012 (UTC)