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[edit] The Signpost: 02 January 2012


[edit] The Signpost: 09 January 2012

[edit] The Signpost: 16 January 2012


[edit] WP:ARBPIA#Editors_reminded

Hi, I've never come across your name at AE, certainly not in the context of an ARBPIA-related report. Are you familiar with WP:ARBPIA#Editors_reminded? I could of course be wrong, but it sounds as though you may not have read the Remedy formulated there. It specifically enjoins editors to assume good faith, write with a neutral point of view, remain civil, and avoid personal attacks. I don't see how any of the comments Unomi directed at me can possible not be considered blatant breaches of what #Editors_reminded considers appropriate behavior. Can you elaborate, here or at AE, just how you feel Unomi's attacks are consistent with #Editors_reminded?—Biosketch (talk) 11:27, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Just because you open an SPI case, which only merit is its questionable entertainment value, doesn't mean that WP:SPI automatically classifies as ARBPIA territory. I would suggest that you reconsider the words you have chosen on AE, I can assure you that I find nothing "cunning" about casting aspersions of that nature. Please find somewhere else to indulge in your victimization fantasies. That you would file an SPI based on use of exclamation marks and smileys ( which happen to exhibit markedly different styles ) is disturbing and sad, if you weren't doing such a great job of displaying the frailty of your connection to reality I might have considered taking formal action against you for employing such disruptive attempts at gaming the system. un☯mi 12:15, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Actually, the message I was trying to convey to User:Stifle, the validity of which your comment above has helped establish, is that your approach to editors with whom you have disagreements is hostile and aggressive and altogether inconsistent with the spirit of this project. There'd be no reason for you to take the SPI as personally as you have if you were as convinced of its futility as you claim you are. The vindictive anti-Zionist outbursts you attacked me with mean you lack the capacity to assume good faith, write with a neutral point of view, remain civil, and avoid personal attacks. Had your attacks been unrelated to the I/P conflict, I'd probably have ignored them as meaningless; but your sinister association of me with the negative stereotypes you believe to apply to Zionists both makes the attacks pertinent to ARBPIA and, in my opinion, makes them sanctionable.—Biosketch (talk) 13:30, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I have sanctioned users under ARBPIA, which you would have noticed if you searched WP:ARBPIA for my name. I expressed my opinion at WP:AE that the comments reach the level of a breach of the letter of the ruling, but not one that would occasion a sanction greater than an admonishment. Stifle (talk) 13:37, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
I'll acknowledge that, I don't really have the desire to spend much further time on this, but should someone take Biosketch to task for the rather appalling misrepresentation of what I have written and offensive, to put it lightly, attribution of beliefs to me, then I would find it welcome. un☯mi 14:00, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Unomi, if you specify which beliefs I've attributed to you unfairly, I'll be more than happy to know you dissociate yourself from them and to withdraw the attribution of them to you. What I don't understand is your resistance to retracting the one comment I objected to on your Talk page, which was the catalyst for all this.—Biosketch (talk) 14:12, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps you should take the time to re-read it. I wrote that within the "Pro-Zionist Brigade" ( a pretty clear indicator of sardonic humor ) there could be found a high degree of self-deception. I don't see why I should retract it WHEN YOU SO VERY CLEARLY AND REPEATEDLY ARE MAKING THAT VERY CASE FOR ME, YOU NUTJOB person acting in a manner that I find indistinguishable from that which I associate with nutjobs. un☯mi 14:24, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Gentlemen, please take your dispute off my talk page. Stifle (talk) 19:45, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] File:Catalog back page.JPG

You forgot to add OTRS tag to [[:File:Catalog back page.JPG]. Can you please do that? --Sreejith K (talk) 06:44, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

I did not forget; rather, it was not appropriate that one should be added. The OTRS discussion did not lead to the grant of permission (because the author could not be found). The only claim to PD status is that given on the page. If you wish to nominate it for deletion because of this, you are free to do so. Stifle (talk) 09:47, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2012 Celebrity Cricket League

Hi Stifle. I was wondering if you could have another look over Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2012 Celebrity Cricket League. It probably sounds arrogant considering that it was 4:1 in favour of deletion, but I really don't think there was a consensus to delete. I think I clearly showed that the tournament meets GNG (and CLUB, though I'm still not sure why that was used as a rationale), while the delete voters did not refute this and mainly used "just not notable"-type arguments. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 04:00, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

  • As per my /FAQs, I consider all my deletion decisions carefully before closing. I could not reasonably close that AFD as keep. Stifle (talk) 18:19, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Hallelujah

You placed two requests for citations on Hallelujah (Messiah Part II #44). Did you see the request on the talk for a separate article on the Hallelujah? BECAUSE it is so often performed by itself, and people don't know it is part of Messiah. For the "brilliant" please look up D major, the key of trumpet celebration, quote: "In the Baroque period, D major was regarded as "the key of glory"". Then remove the tags, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:46, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

  • It seems you've already removed the tags. I won't re-add them if you are so passionate about it. But I did know that one was part of the other. Stifle (talk) 15:42, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] The Signpost: 23 January 2012

[edit] Upcoming Xbox console

That article should be deleted as well as it was moved during the creation of the Xbox 720 AfD.∞陣内Jinnai 17:26, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] DRV

A notification that the Templates for Discussion discussion (oy, repetition) has been taken to a deletion review discussion. The Article Rescue Squadron was notified, and as notifications to previous involved parties isn't normal practise, I and a few ARS members agreed that, in the interests of transparency and fairness, we should let everyone know...hence this talkpage message ;).

If anyone has an issue with me sending these out, do drop me a note on my talkpage. Regards, Ironholds (talk) 10:30, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Trans Australia Airlines Flight 454

I'm just bringing this to your attention. While you deleted the article after the AFD debate was concluded, you left the page in place where the article was moved to. If the result was delete, doesn't that mean Queensland 1982 Airport robberies gets deleted? Someone moved the page after the deletion discussion started.- William 00:37, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Qi (programming language) (2nd nomination)

Did you notice that a number of users rallied at an external mailing list have contributed to this discussion and carefully weighted the strengths of all arguments made? —Ruud 03:10, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Did you see my talk page FAQ? Specifically the second section. But yes, I did note that there was a number of new users, but there was not a consensus to delete taking all into account. Stifle (talk) 16:44, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't consider you FAQ to be relevant. This was at best a borderline case between delete and no consunsus, so I would have expected a closing rationale. Would you still care to add one? —Ruud 03:07, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
My FAQ points out that I carefully consider all closures and waive any requirement to discuss with me if you wish to raise a deletion review. I'm not trying to be obstructive, but I've already given you the rationale you were looking for and I don't see what adding it to the AFD page would do. Stifle (talk) 09:33, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Household Name Records

The article Household Name Records discography probably should have been included in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Household Name Records. Any chance you'd agree to delete discography as well?--GrapedApe (talk) 17:11, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Can't really do that as it wasn't explicitly included, but I've PRODded it. Stifle (talk) 17:16, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks.--GrapedApe (talk) 17:18, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Georgetown University Alumni & Student Federal Credit Union

Just a heads up, I didn't notice Georgetown University Alumni & Student Federal Credit Union was up for AfD until you soft deleted it today, so I'm requesting undeletion, since I feel it has some notable qualities and high profile sources. Feel free to comment!-- Patrick, oѺ∞ 19:27, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll work to shore up the article's notability this week.-- Patrick, oѺ∞ 20:59, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] The Signpost: 30 January 2012

[edit] Deletion review for Secure error messages in software systems

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Secure error messages in software systems. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Pnm (talk) 04:21, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

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