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Hello, ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Discussion[edit]

Please see the discussion page relating to Greek Cypriots. Thank you, Olympian (talk) 18:54, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Map in Greece article[edit]

Hello there,

It would be great if you could change the map on the infobox showing the location of Greece, with the map that is located in the Greek Wikipedia article of Greece. This map is much better than the one in the English Wikipedia as it shows all Islands with detail. I would do it myself, but I ask it from you because I cannot yet edit the article. Thanks! 77.83.205.171 (talk) 11:11, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Εντάξει, αλλά μου φαίνεται ότι όλοι οι χάρτες χωρών-μελών της ΕΕ ανήκουν στην ίδια κατηγορία (EU-*.svg) του User:NuclearVacuum. Επειδή γνωρίζω πόσο κτητικοί είναι κάποιοι, είναι πολύ πιθανό να αναστραφεί η αποκατάσταση του παλιού χάρτη. Το καλύτερο που μπορείς να κάνεις είναι να του ζητήσεις να βελτιώσει τον καινούργιο. ·ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ· 11:53, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

January 2010[edit]

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:) ·ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ· 22:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Cyprus articles[edit]

Hi

I don't know if you realise that there are, and have been, discussions ongoing about the "ethnic" and "Cypriot" topics :¬)

Mainly Talk:Cyprus and all pages containing demgraphics

WOuld you care to join in ? I can see there is a possibility of things getting out of hand if undos and reverts continue from all parties involved

Thanks...Chaosdruid (talk) 17:44, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

[1] Πες τα ρε Θεόδωρε, θα τρελλαθούμε στο τέλος! I agree with every word of yours. --Factuarius (talk) 13:27, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Τώρα το είδα [2]. Eχεις δίκιο, αυτό σκέφτηκα κι εγώ αμέσως μετά, γι αυτό επανήλθα όπως είδες στα εντιτς μου. Απλώς βγήκα από τα ρούχα με ότι διάβασα, αλλά ήταν στιγμιαίο ολίσθημα. Unfortunately I don't have much respect to people starting their contribution in WP with a vandalism[3] Τέλος δέξου τα συγχαρητήρια μου για τις ατομικές σου βόμβες στη συζήτηση. --Factuarius (talk) 14:56, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Ευχαριστώ. Η πλάκα είναι ότι φάσκει και αντιφάσκει. Μήπως είναι λίγο μπερδεμένο το παιδί; ·ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ· 15:22, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Τώρα το θυμήθηκα, βασικά μετάνιωσα για το μήνυμά μου όταν βλέποντας τα παλιότερα εντιτς του συνειδητοποίησα ότι μάλλον είναι όντως παιδί. Το ότι δεν μου απάντησε ποτέ με έκανε να υποπτευθώ ότι δεν είναι καν Έλληνας. Τι να γίνει, η μητέρα της σοφίας είναι η υπομονή.. Και η συγχώρηση το κουδούνι στη πόρτα του παραδείσου.. Αλλά πάλι, ποιός είναι τόσο καλός Θεόδωρε; Ηρακλής(αληθινό) --Factuarius (talk) 19:10, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Greek Barnstar of Virtue[edit]

BoV - Greek.png The Greek Barnstar of Virtue
For improving both quality and quantity in several wpgr articles. Keep up the briliant work.Alexikoua (talk) 13:48, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
this WikiAward was given to ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ by Alexikoua (talk) on 13:48, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Revert[edit]

Sorry, was not intended to revert you, but the IP edit (at Stepanakert). Best. -- Ashot  (talk) 10:31, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

massive vandalists of Greece[edit]

anti-Greek vandalists Future Perfect at Sunrise Dbachmann cplakidas strong vandalism on gReek languege and hellenic . Εσυ δε βλέπεις τι γινεται εχουν αφαιρεσει ολες τις πηγες με το ετσι θελω στις γλωσσες και τη μουσικη της ελλαδας γυφτικη με το ζορι... κανε κατι κ συ thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OMEGAS1 (talkcontribs) 21:33, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Meliti[edit]

If you believe that he is not the mayor at least present some information showing this. Do not simply revert on the belief that you are right. From what I am aware he is the elected representative of the village. What would you have to say in response to this? Lunch for Two (talk) 13:30, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I would say that you need a more reliable source, preferably in English. ·ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ· 13:32, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Firstly there is nothing wrong with the sources in Macedonian. And secondly, will a Greek source suffice? (I have a feeling that it will). Lunch for Two (talk) 13:34, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Here is a source, In Greek, [4] where he is noted as the elected head of the village. Lunch for Two (talk) 13:41, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
He could be cited as in interesting phenomenon of a local politician inciting ethnic hatred by calling all Slavophones "ethnic Macedonians", Arvanites "Albanians" and Pontic Greeks "Turks", but he still isn't the "mayor". ·ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ· 13:48, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
What is he then if not the mayor? Village president? Furthermore, the "Slavophones" as you call them are all ethnic Macedonians, and the journalist made a mistake about the Turkish part. Instead of writing descendants of refugees from Turkey the interviewer wrote "Turks", I think Mr Anastiasidis issued a press release clarifying the matter. Lunch for Two (talk) 13:53, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Who says they are all "ethnic Macedonians"? Greece's Slavophones identify as Greeks in their majority. As for the "Albanians and Turks" slur, I doubt it was accidental. ·ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ· 14:16, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
There are some people who live in Greece who practise the same customs as ethnic Macedonians and who speak the Macedonian language as their mother tongue who identify as ethnic Greeks, and some who identify as ethnic Macedonians. In places such as Meliti, the majority identify as ethnic Macedonians (as is shown by the history of the village). In other villages where the same people live you will find 100% identifying as ethnic Greeks. Just because overall there may be more Macedonian speakers identifying as ethnic Greeks, doesnt mean that in some areas those with an ethnic Macedonian identity prevail numerically. Btw, The Albanians reference was in regards to recent immigrants from Albania and not Arvanites. Lunch for Two (talk) 14:35, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
You will also notice that on the same table it outlines the population groups that comprise the village. If is has M/S it means that the village is entirely inhabited by Macedonian language speakers. There is no evidence that in many of the villages there is anything other than a local Macedonian speaking population. Nonetheless this has to go to WP:ANI, it has gone too far out of hand. Lunch for Two (talk) 14:14, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Nicosia[edit]

Hi ΘΕΟΔΩΡΕ. I noticed you have been making some good contributions in Talk:Cyprus so I thought you might also be interested to get involved in Nicosia. That article is in a poor state and is a really bad representation of the true image of the city. There has been an ongoing edit-war specifically with regards to the representation of the self-proclaimed Turkish Municipality of Nicosia in the infobox. In the talk page, we've already agreed that this entity is not recognised by anyone apart from TRNC and Turkey and its a widely accepted fact that it doesn't claim jurisdiction over the whole of Nicosia (just the north). Yet some editors insist including it in the infobox. Because in the last couple of months, almost every addition is disputed and an edit war erupts, I've suggested that we split the article to Nicosia, Republic of Cyprus and Northern Nicosia, TRNC so we can improve both. I'd be interested to see if you had any thoughts on this. Thank you. Masri145 (talk) 14:28, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

quick interesting read[edit]

I understand that purely because Macedonian's see their nation and refer to their nation as 'Macedonia' wiki has to follow suit on how it names the article. I am fine with that. My question is this. Alexander the Great, his father Philip II and many of their forefathers referred to themselves as Greek, in letters/speeches and commonly and openly claimed Greek descent from the Argead dynastic house of Argos. They often went out of their way to state their Greek ancestry due to aggressive enemies within the Greek world who sought to devalue their Greek credentials for political reasons.

Is it then fair to mention that they were 'Greek' kings on the introduction pages of their respective articles as that is what they self identified as. This 'Greek' label was unceremoniously removed years ago by the famous army of editors that redefined these pages for ever. As far as logic goes, would it be acceptable to mention these kings were as Greek as they at least referred to themselves. As it stands, the reader has no indication these kings were Greek unless he scans the 1800 line article and notices under culture that these kings shared the same religion/language etc as 'Greeks.' I would be really interested to hear your opinion on the matter.

I am also really interested in a map in the Saloniki article I believe to be quite cleverly POV. I have opened a section on it in the talk page.

Finally, I would like to talk with you about 1 last topic:

I read through the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Macedonia). Is it true that all three of the neutral referees (2 of which are now retired from wiki altogether?) were citizens of the United States? I know this may sound a little obvious, but America recognized FYROM as Macedonia the same month Macedonia committed to sending a few troops to Iraq (which Greece failed to do). This decision changed the landscape of the dispute and soon after the UK agreed to recognise FYROM as Macedonia in attempt to reflect US policy, not for the first time. lol. The US then actively encouraged other nations to do the same including Mexico, who later rejected the name Macedonia after initially being coerced into recognising FYROM as Macedonia by the US. I do not blame the US/UK for encouraging other nations to reflect their policy. Indeed I believe it to be natural. However big chunks of the English speaking world, Australia and South Africa for example refused to join the bandwagon. My point is, on such a delicate subject, like any disagreement, should not the referee's be starting off from a neutral position or at least a neutral country in the debate? Just a thought.Reaper7 (talk) 23:50, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

please recuse yourself from the Turkey article[edit]

if you are a Greek national, please recuse yourself from the Turkey article. non-greek, non-turk editors should handle the NPOV conflict. -WikiSkeptic (talk) 03:09, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

You mean I should refrain from reverting unsourced speculation like this, simply because I might be Greek? I don't think that's how Wikipedia works, I'm afraid. ·ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ· 10:40, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Courtesy notice[edit]

Hi ΘΕΟΔΩΡΕ. I just wanted to tell you that I mentioned you in my latest report at ANI concerning WikiSkeptic (talk · contribs). No further action is needed on your part. Just wanted to let you know out of courtesy. Best regards. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:37, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. ·ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ· 05:04, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
You are very welcome. Take care. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 14:58, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

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Golden Dawn edit[edit]

I see what you're trying to do with the Michaloliakos quote, but haven't you got any third party sources that? They way you've done it, we've got a primary source at odds with a secondary, anyone wanting to edit war is just going to call WP:PRIMARY. Is there any chance at all you can find an alternate source for the quote? Dolescum (talk) 01:58, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Duly noted. I have replaced it with a link to a newspaper interview in which he repeats the call. The problem with the Turkish sources is that they have replaced the Greek names he used with their Turkish variants, so their translation is already somewhat misleading. Greeks almost invariably use the original Greek names of the cities in question, regardless of their political persuasion, so the suggestion that the leader of Greece's most extreme nationalist party would use the Turkish names is frankly absurd. ·ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ· 11:17, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, much appreciated. Dolescum (talk) 16:28, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

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Ano teleia[edit]

Hello. For the record that was an unnecessary revert [5]. I am pretty sure that I inserted the correct glyph: U+0387. The same one you later re-inserted; you could check it by the edit summary[6] and by searching with Crtl + F my version. --Omnipaedista (talk) 05:05, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

You're quite right; I wasn't aware that Greek U+0387 is converted automatically to Latin U+00B7. I seem to have fixed the problem by using the Unicode template and the appropriate HTML code point·ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ· 05:34, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

LAOS[edit]

What about LAOS? Now they have independent PM Alexopoulos as candidate.

I think the template is faulty anyway. We mix groups with parties. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:28, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I know. It has become almost impossible to keep up with all the shifting allegiances. ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ 18:37, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
I agree. I think we should remove Parliamentary groups and stick to parties. This will resolve the problem with duplicated entries too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:56, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Or we could keep things even simpler and stick to the groups, per the Hellenic Parliament article. ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ 19:03, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

The thing is that this template is about political parties. We could create a separate one. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:09, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Talking about shifting allegiances, check this out. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:54, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Are you saying I should update the template accordingly? ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ 15:57, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Hehe. What about removing the number of PMs from the list? -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:16, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Entirely, or just from the parentheses? Meanwhile, how do we treat this? ΘΕΟΔΩΡΟΣ 16:34, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
We can remove the numbers, at least in parentheses. Your call. Some party formations do not even exists anymore i.e. Loverdos' "party". -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:55, 6 January 2015 (UTC)