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JJH[edit]

Hey, thanks for your contributions to the Judge John Hodgman article! By any chance, what steps would I have to go through in order to return Kreh Mellick's illustration to its respective subsection on the JJH article? Thanks in advance!--DrWho42 (talk) 01:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

I'll take this discussion about the illustration over to the the article's talk page, so it will be easily accessible for future archiving, if you don't mind. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 13:09, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Spoken article Deepwater Horizon[edit]

Hi 0x0077BE,

Thanks for your spoken version of Deepwater Horizon.

Also your talking very fast, it's a pleasure to listen to you and the recording is in a decent quality. A made some minor corrections to the file description page on Commons and also changed the license, as it's a derivative work, you can't license it to the public domain. Further I uploaded your recording with a reduced bitrate.

I hope to hearing you again, so long LordOider (talk) 14:17, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I've started reading these to practice reading scripts and editing audio, I noticed that I read a bit faster than other people - I think it's because I often make mistakes when reading, so I speed up to get through the text without making a mistake, I think that I will naturally slow down as time goes on. I'm actually going to re-master it this weekend and re-upload, because I didn't realize how much distortion was introduced when I added speech volume leveling. I'll use the new bitrate. Thanks for changing the license. I had meant to change that (my default is CC-0 on Commons because I mostly upload my own work), but forgot about it. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 15:12, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
@LordOider: What is the standard setting for lower-bitrate articles? I've set the VBR quality to 30%, the file is around 6MB. I'm not sure how much degradation I really want to introduce here. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 15:24, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
It's recommend and adequate (voice only recordings with neither professional equipment, nor a proper recording studio) to use Ogg quality level 1 (about 70 kbit/s). I know VBR only in respect to mp3-files. The bitrate of ogg-vorbis files is usually set with the quality level ranging from 0 (lowest) to 10 (highest). --LordOider (talk) 21:41, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

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How to proceed during an Rfc[edit]

I understand why you removed my graph. I have made a new version using svg new graph. I have some questions as I have no been an active editor nearly as long as you have. During he discussion, shouldn't all the graphs be on the page? (Maybe the Rfc started before I added my graph, if so, I apologize.) At what point do I consider the Rfc closed and then based on the collection of comments, add it back if "keep" is what everyone decides? Given that the graph was removed during most of the discussion how do I even know if the discussion applies to the graph I added? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Weanhall (talk) 19:13, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for making an SVG version. In my experience, when an RfC is being run, you propose changes on the talk page and if there's consensus add them, and in general you just wait for the RfC to run its course before making any major changes. Consider that if you add this graph (which you added after the RfC started), that's going to muddy the discussion, because everyone commenting on the version from after you added the graph are commenting on all the old graphs plus a new one, and everyone from before is commenting on just the old graphs. RfCs usually run for 30 days and are closed by a non-involved party, who is usually but not always an admin. If the consensus is clear before the 30-day comment period, the RfC can be closed at any time. Once closed, it's then up to the involved editors to implement the consensus. Keep in mind that there is no deadline. There's no huge rush to put your graph up there, wait until we have a decision about whether these graphs are even appropriate. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 19:20, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Appreciate your quick response. I am embarrassed to say that I didn't know the RfC was going on. I understand that wikipedia is an encyclopedia. However, there seems to be no other place where I could find a table tracking the history of the epidemic. That is why I was sort of "in a rush." But, I respect your experience here and will wait. Thanks again. Weanhall (talk) 19:31, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

re .oga vs. .ogg?[edit]

No idea, that just happened automatically when I moved it. As far as I know, both extensions should be fine. Could you try playing the file and see if it's okay? — Cirt (talk) 19:27, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

@Cirt: Yeah, still plays fine. I'm guessing that it's some preference the software has if it's happening automatically. From a little research, it seems like while .ogg should always be audio, there are options for Oggs Vorbis video and multiplexed files, which take the extensions .oga and .ogx, and they created .oga to specifically refer to audio files, so I guess the software is just transitioning over to .oga for greater specificity? 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 19:49, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
The best person to ask about that would be Brion VIBBER. — Cirt (talk) 19:50, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Non-free content‎[edit]

I have reverted your re-addition of the svg thread to this page. Nobody has commented on the thread in more than two weeks, and in the last four weeks just one person has commented. You've restored the thread several times now past when the bot normally archives it, leaving the thread 4 times at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content/Archive 64. If anyone else at WT:NFC was going to comment, they would have done so by now. I'm sorry this hasn't resolved to your satisfaction, but continuing to force it to remain on the WT:NFC page is not going to bring the closure you wish. I recommend you start an RfC or contact the WMF directly. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 03:05, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

I already have. I contacted them via e-mail weeks ago and haven't had a response. They are lawyers, it's clearly still active, since the conversation stalled at, "Waiting for the WMF to comment." When it was archived a second time, I contacted User:Philippe (WMF). Clearly it has not resolved, and there's no huge rush to archive the conversation anyway. The bot is on a 2-week archive, but there's basically no activity on that talk page anyway. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 03:08, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Restoring the thread, as you have done again, is pointless. Nobody is commenting anymore. You are effectively engaged in an edit war now, and worse leaving trails of multiple copies of the thread in the archives. This needs to end. Several people disagreed with your position on the point. I'm sorry you disagree with them, but that does not give you a reason to continue to force a dead thread onto the talk page. There's a reason WP:BRD exists. You've been reverted, by me. To force the thread back onto the page when no discussion is happening, has happened, nor is likely to happen is flat wrong. I strongly encourage you to remove the thread. Now. If the WMF contacts us regarding this issue, we can revisit it. As is, it is highly unlikely the WMF will respond. I know from personal experience on related issues. You yourself admit it's been weeks since you contacted the WMF and there is no response. End this. Now. --Hammersoft (talk) 03:11, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Don't be ridiculous. It's not an edit war. We're waiting for a WMF comment. That's where everything stalled. A sysop on the Armenian Wikipedia clearly requested WMF comment as well. We can't expect the WMF lawyers to jump on every thing immediately, and leaving the conversation there while we're waiting for their comment does not seem to be a problem. I'm not worried about the disagreement, it's not a matter of consensus, it's a matter of law. Either way, there was no argument about whether or not it should be clarified. The discussion for the NFCC is still ongoing whether or not non-free SVGs end up being allowed. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 03:16, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
  • How many times do you think it will take of you restoring the thread when it's been removed before you will consider it an edit war? Just curious. You've been waiting, by your own admission, for weeks without an answer. I note that you prodded Philippe on this issue here. If there is no answer within a week, I will archive this thread manually. I expect you to not complain about this. The ridiculous thing here is that this thread keeps on being restored by you when there is no activity on it for nearly a month now, save one edit. --Hammersoft (talk) 03:23, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
I sent an e-mail to the Wikimedia foundation, to the secure-info e-mail address. I didn't know how long it would take for them to respond, so I waited a few weeks. Half the time these secure-info things aren't checked because no one has the PGP key, so when it got archived, I figured it was time to prod the WMF again. Obviously the thread should still be there when the WMF takes another look. I will definitely complain if you archive it unilaterally after a week without consensus on that page. Last time I restored it from the archive, a sysop from Armenian Wikipedia thanked me for doing so. Just build consensus for archiving it if you want it archived. I don't see what the big problem is leaving the thread on the talk page. Almost every talk page on Wikipedia has a longer archive time than a month. The page isn't particularly long. I've brought up the question of archiving on the page there. We'll see what the consensus is. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 03:28, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
When does this end? I'd like an answer to this question. I understand your position, but failing an answer there is no reason to keep this thread open. I get that it needs to be open for now. I do. But, keeping it open indefinitely is not an answer. Barring some clear reason why this needs to stay open despite the weeks of lack of response, I will archive this in a week's time. I believe that to be a fair compromise. What you are offering at this point in time is that the thread remain open forever, apparently. So, when does this end? What if you never get a response? --Hammersoft (talk) 03:35, 3 November 2014 (UTC) PS: You may find this informative.
There is no deadline. If there's consensus for removal, then we'll remove it. Just take it over to that page. If it's so self-evident that it should be archived, then the people there can archive it. A few weeks is not a very long time. And yes, I did an archive search before making the question. It seems to be an open question that's gone back quite some time. Clarification is clearly necessary. Rather than just let it peter out, I'd just take it over to the Village Pump and maybe centralized discussion, if necessary. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 03:42, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
  • You don't need a vote to archive threads. It's BEEN archived four times already. The problem here is that you are refusing to allow it to be archived apparently because you disagree with the answers you've been given. Please see this. This is a sticky issue that has been raised many times. If the WMF refuses to get involved (and for weeks now they have chosen through inaction to do so, which is par for the course for them), there is no reason to keep the thread active anymore. You still have not answered the question. What happens if you never get a response from the WMF? When do YOU think this should be archived? Never? --Hammersoft (talk) 03:46, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm not giving you a deadline because there is no deadline. It'll be archived when it's archived. I'm keeping it alive because I haven't had a response from the WMF. If they don't respond in a reasonable amount of time, I'll probably advertise an RfC more widely so we can determine what the right way to address this is, one way or the other, in WP:NFCC. If the WMF disagrees with the results, they can respond through action. I don't care if people disagree with me. I'm a huge proponent of SVGs, and if it turns out that I am wrong (I doubt that I am), I'd be happy, because it means we can use SVG logos. I just want some proper guidance on the issue, and a clear policy one way or the other. We can end the conversation when that happens or when the conversation moves to another venue, WMF input or no. I personally don't see why you care. That page is archived as if it's high traffic like WP:AN/I or WP:NORB, but it's actually a fairly low-traffic page. The bot is a bit over-zealous at the moment. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 03:51, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
  • It'll be archived when it's archived? That's your answer? It's already been archived five times, if you include my removal. Yet, it's still present on the page. I ask again; what if you never get a response from the WMF? When does this end? Do you have an answer? I'm not unreasonable. I'll be happy to drop the issue if we can compromise here. But, leaving it up indefinitely is not an option. Please. As to whether it's a high traffic page; history suggests otherwise. Right now it's quiet, but over time it has not been. Over the last three years, WT:NFC has averaged 124 edits a month. WP:NORB has averaged 116. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:26, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
  • It will be archived when there is a consensus to archive it. Feel free to try and build that consensus at your discretion. This is not the appropriate venue for the discussion of this non-issue (it's a non-issue since we already agree that, in the short term, it's fine where it is). The conversation is not, right now, causing any problems at WT:NFCC. I've notified WMF and Jimbo Wales, Wales has responded that he will get it WMF Legal's hands. If it becomes a problem or if becomes obvious there will be no response, then I'll bring an RfC advertise the discussion more widely and/or change to a more heavily watched venue. For now it's not causing any problems and I've brought up the question of archiving the conversation over there. This is pretty simple stuff. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 16:58, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

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Caucasus Mountains[edit]

I wonder if you would mind looking at one single edit, and then a series of edits just before that, to Caucasus Mountains. In the latest edit, an editor changed "trending" to "tending", saying that it was a correction of spelling. I'm not sure "tending" is the right word. I think "trending" might be right, but colloquial American English would use "running" there. I thought you might be able to choose the right word.

Also, just before that edit, an IP editor made a series of edits, mostly to geology. I wonder if you know enough geology that you could review those edits, and, if not, if you could help find an editor who can. I think I asked Vsmith to review them, but he said he was not familiar with the geology of that area. CorinneSD (talk) 01:45, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't know much about the geology. I resolved the "trending/tending" thing by finding a source that discussed the alignment of the mountain ranges. I'll take a look at the geology part next - that article is criminally under-cited, so I'll just find some books and papers on the mountain ranges to substantiate any claims. I found two already, so I just need to either read about it on Google books or go to the library to get a copy. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 15:17, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Great! After your edits, the article is already better. Thanks for looking at it. CorinneSD (talk) 23:44, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Chevalier d'Eon[edit]

I considered what you said. I don't plan to change my closure, except to note that the current article avoids pronouns. It is my opinion that, in the absence of a consensus to disregard the MOS, the MOS stands. If you disagree, you have the right (and it won't bother me) to seek closure review. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:33, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

My understanding of your closure was that there was a consensus that this is an edge case not covered by the MOS. Obviously the MOS stands in all cases, since a local consensus cannot override a global one; the question was whether or not the MOS actually addresses this situation. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 16:36, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Friendly request.[edit]

Hey there, I've been going around trying to bring as much of Wikipedia up to HTML5 standards as I can, and in doing so, I've noticed that you are using the old, deprecated <font>...</font> tag. I'm not exactly sure why you are using it, because you could easily replace font with span and see no ill effects. The only difference I see is that it colors your talk page link on your own talk page but doesn't actually do anything. I suggest replacing:

[[User:0x0077BE|<font style="color: #0077BE">0x0077BE</font>]] [<sup>[[User talk:0x0077BE|<font color="#0033BE">talk</font>]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:contributions/0x0077BE|<font color="#0033BE">contrib</font>]]</sub>]
with:
[[User:0x0077BE|<span style="color: #0077BE;">0x0077BE</span>]] [<sup>[[User talk:0x0077BE|<span color="#0033BE;">talk</span>]]</sup>/[[Special:contribs/0x0077BE|<sub color="#0033BE;">contrib</sub>]]]
or:
[[User:0x0077BE|<span style="color: #0077BE;">0x0077BE</span>]] [<sup>[[User talk:0x0077BE{{subst:<noinclude />#ifeq:{{subst:<noinclude />FULLPAGENAME}}|User talk:0x0077BE|{{subst:<noinclude />lc:#}}top}}|<span color="#0033BE;">talk</span>]]</sup>/[[Special:contribs/0x0077BE|<sub color="#0033BE;">contrib</sub>]]]
which will result in a 200 character long signature (15 characters shorter) with an appearance of: 0x0077BE [talk/contrib]
or with a respective appearance of: 0x0077BE [talk/contrib]
compared to your existing 215 character long signature of: 0x0077BE [talk/contrib]
— Either way. Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 16:56, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Hm.. For some reason, it's not letting me enter in the full version using the SPANs - cuts off after a certain number of characters. Not really sure how that works if it's actually shorter. I'll try and figure something out. I don't particularly care for web development, so I haven't generated anything more than rudimentary HTML for something like 10-15 years, so that explains my unfamiliarity with new-fangled uses of divs and spans and whatnot. 0x0077BE [talk/contrib] 17:05, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Here we go. I don't know what the problem was, but I've been thinking about switching to a different talk/contribs thing for my signature anyway, so I just modified your template. Thanks for the help getting everything future-compliant. 0x0077BE (talk · contrib) 17:10, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Very nice. Indeed, in order to use the alternate I posted, you would have had to have created it as a userspace template and then in the input for changing your signature you would have had to substituted it in. While the raw code is longer than the allowed 255 characters, when subst: in, it would have been shorter than your existing signature (200 characters on most pages and 204 on your talk page with the #top id. Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 17:16, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Jordan, Jesse, Go![edit]

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Template:Did you know nominations/Jordan, Jesse, Go![edit]

Hi, it's been almost 2 weeks since you last posted a comment on this nomination. Another editor has proposed shortening the hook a bit. Is it okay to run with it? Are you going to supply an image, or leave it without? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 17:59, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, sorry for the delay, I was going to get to this today. I'll make the image today, but I'm OK with running without. I do like the shorter hook. 0x0077BE (talk · contrib) 18:01, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
@Yoninah: OK, I've responded extensively on the hook template. Hopefully we can finalize and schedule it at this point. 0x0077BE (talk · contrib) 18:49, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

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@Marge6914: Happy to help. When you say the confidentiality of information sent by e-mail is not guaranteed, does that mean that you are unwilling to guarantee that some action of yours will not map my real name to my pseudonymous handle? I'm not planning on sending confidential information over e-mail, but I'll use a pseudonymous e-mail address if it's likely to be revealed in public. Thanks! 0x0077BE (talk · contrib) 20:00, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

@0x0077BE: Thanks for your reply! While we will do everything within our power to ensure your privacy and anonymity, email is inherently an insecure communication method, and I think we're just highlighting that there is always a possibility that data transmitted via email could potentially be accessed. You can definitely use a pseudonymous email address for your initial contact with Michael, we would love to talk with you and have no need to know your public name/face/etc. Thank you so much for your interest in helping! Marge6914 (talk) 21:28, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

0x0077BE, Yep, seconding Marge6914's comment, that statement is relatively boilerplate, intending to communication that the transmission of email is inherently insecure (insofar as it's out of our hands), but all data storage is controlled and approved by the Internal Review Board at the University of Washington, with more details and the IRB approval number at the research page link above. If you have any other questions (or are interested in participating!) feel free to hit me up at mdg@uw.edu. Md gilbert (talk) 22:50, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

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Stuttering OGG files[edit]

You recently uploaded several audio files to Commons — File:En-us-attomole.ogg, File:En-us-ephedrine.ogg, File:En-us-micromole.ogg, File:En-us-nanomole.ogg, File:En-us-picomole.ogg and File:En-us-zeptomole.ogg. Every one of them exhibits problems with stuttering at the beginning when played in my browser. This can be prevented by prepending 500 ms to 1000 ms of silence before the audio starts, to allow the OGG decoder to stabilize. I've also seen comments on Wikipedia that some users have problems with audio being truncated on certain files, and this, too, can be prevented by appending 500 ms to 1000 ms of silence. Yes, the file gets a little larger, but it's worth it to produce error-free sound.

I've fixed File:En-us-attomole.ogg, using Audacity software. The rest are "left as an exercise for the student". — QuicksilverT @ 19:21, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

@Hydrargyrum: It only stutters for me the first time I play it. This seems to me to be a technical problem best addressed with a technical solution, not by adding unnecessary silence to files. I doubt it adds a significant amount to the file size, but the actual file should be just the pronunciation, not the pronunciation plus a kludge-y fix for a possibly ephemeral problem with the load behavior of .ogg files. I think the correct solution is to bring this up on Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical). Adding in kludges breaks the abstraction. 0x0077BE (talk · contrib) 21:19, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I've brought it up over on Village pump (will change to archive link when conversation gets archived). We can continue the discussion there. 0x0077BE (talk · contrib) 21:27, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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