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Incomplete DYK nomination[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/World War II persecution of Serbs at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; see step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with {{db-g7}}, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 08:46, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Use of minor edit m[edit]

G'day 23, Welcome. Can I just ask that when you do an edit, like the one you did recently on the Draza Mihailovic article, deleting existing information and adding other information, you don't click on minor edit, as most interested editors will not find your edit a minor one (which essentially means superficial), and may consider that discussion of the handing over of Allied aircrew to the Germans provides some balance against which the award of the Legion of Merit can be measured. The help page on minor edits is here Help:Minor edit. Enjoy your time on WP. Cheers! Peacemaker67 (talk) 05:11, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi again, you have probably gone overboard with the refs in the World War II persecution of Serbs infobox. They would be better placed in the text of the article alongside appropriate information from those refs. Peacemaker67 (talk) 03:09, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Arid Uka[edit]

Hello 23 editor. I see you are quite new here so I wish to explain something to you for future reference. You made a number of changes on Arid Uka which I initially reverted as non-constructive, only to discover that these are early days for you as an editor which is why I restored the bulk of your contributions, all except one. Like you, I am also from the former Yugoslavia (albeit born in the UK where I have always lived) and a fair chuck of my edits are connected to that part of the world. The reason his name was displayed in Serbian Cyrillic was because he was born in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and therefore that variation applied to him; we give Serbian or Serbo-Croat for all persons born on the territory of Serbia or Yugoslavia just as relevant variations are found across the site for other individuals of one ethnicity born in another country where a separate script is used. None of this suggests the spelling is an indication that the individual was of the ethnicity to which the translation pertains - the ethnicity is given in the article, usually on the opening line. If you have any questions on this, feel free to message me, thanks. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 12:07, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Nikola Tesla[edit]

Hi, I reverted you edit[1] because other editors talk should not normally be blanked, even if it seems uncivil. If you think the edit is egregiously uncivil there are guidelines at WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 13:47, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Evandro Goebel[edit]

Hello. I reverted your edit at Evandro Goebel because you removed sourced information. The point of the articles is to have all the necessary information written in the article body and then adequatly sourced, which was exactly the case, so your edit did not contributed in any way in improving the article, right the oposite. Also, it didn´t make any sense to remove the sourced information, and leave the source. Please don´t make such edits anymore, removing sourced information is a big no-no. What we need is editors that will contribute by adding sourced information, and replacing the unsourced with sourced one. For any help please feel free to contact me. Pozdrav! FkpCascais (talk) 16:17, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Assumption of religion[edit]

Hi. I've reverted three of your recent edits (this, this and this) because you are adding categories that are not supported by the article text. For example, why would you add a category that purports Ana Ivanovic to be "Serbian Orthodox Christian" when there is no mention of "Christian" (or any religion) in her article? Please note that we are not here to take guesses; instead, we are here to include information that is referenced by reliable sources (especially in a biography of a living person). Please take the time to check the article text before adding categories. Thank you. GFHandel   01:22, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

May 2012[edit]

Your recent editing history at Template:Bosnian War shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. -- ◅PRODUCER (TALK) 22:00, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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Hello, 23 editor. You have new messages at Template talk:Bosnian War.
Message added 22:09, 14 May 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Discuss your edits and cease edit warring or you will be reported. ◅PRODUCER (TALK) 22:09, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

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Hello, 23 editor. You have new messages at Template talk:Bosnian War.
Message added 22:24, 14 May 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

-- ◅PRODUCER (TALK) 22:24, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Category:Terrorist incidents orchestrated by Albanians[edit]

Category:Terrorist incidents orchestrated by Albanians, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Gtwfan52 (talk) 14:05, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Konflikt u Makedoniji, 2001[edit]

Iskažite molim vas svoje mišljenje na temu. Hvala lepo/lijepo. --Модернист (talk) 17:31, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Smilkovci[edit]

If you continue attributing crimes to people that haven't been convicted (i.e WP:BLPCRIME), you'll be reported.--— ZjarriRrethues — talk 22:42, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello, you are invited![edit]

Images in World War II persecution of Serbs[edit]

G'day, I've left a message on the article talk page regarding the images in the article. Please respond there. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (talk) 22:22, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Montenegrins vandalism[edit]

Hi, I've assumed good faith to the maximum, and now the vandalizing user has made 6 uncommented reverts (1 of them by ip), in spite of the talk page clearly stating that Ethnic Montenegrins and Montenegrins (a demonym) is not the same. We can safely say that if he does it one more time, we will have to report him, as he has not yet answered our questions.--Zoupan 11:41, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. 23_editor 20:14, 2 July 2012 (EST)

You are involved in an issue at the Administrator's noticeboard[edit]

See here: [2].--R-41 (talk) 00:45, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Warning[edit]

At Montenegrins, your conduct has been not much better than that of your opponents. You have made about five reverts of the same material in as many days. What makes it worse is that most of your reverts lacked any explanation in edit summaries (let alone talk page participation), and your only form of communication with the other editor was to accuse them of "vandalism" [3][4][5]. This is not acceptable. You need to realize that (a) revert-warring at a constant rate of 1r per day is still revert-warring, (b) making edits you disagree with is not the same thing as "vandalism", and (c) you should always provide informative edit summaries for your edits, but especially when making potentially contentious edits in a conflict situation.

I'm giving you the official warning, which will be logged for the future:

In a 2007 arbitration case, administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user editing Balkans-related articles in a disruptive way. If you engage in further inappropriate behaviour in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article/topic ban. Thank you. Fut.Perf. 11:41, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

unblocked[edit]

I momentarily blocked you as it appeared you were edit warring on Montenegrins. On further examination, I reconsidered. Mind you, this is a borderline case and continued reversion is considered disruption. Toddst1 (talk) 22:24, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, but if you could please convince the editor using the IP address 62.178.104.225 to go on the talk page of the article to discuss his/her edits and to start being more cooperative I would highly appreciate it. --23 editor (talk) 22:26, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

date format changes[edit]

You seemed to have made a series of changes to the article Croatian War of Independence in which you changed the inline date format, but you

  1. didn't leave edit summaries on any of them
  2. didn't do the same change in the references
  3. didn't change the template {{Use mdy dates}}
  4. occasionally made small copyedits along the way
  5. occasionally made content changes (describing Pakrac clash as a single incident rather than a series of incidents; I'm not questioning the accuracy of that here, just pointing out it's not a mere copyedit)

Can you please do this kind of a mass change in a single edit with a proper edit summary? If I roll you back now, we lose not only the incomplete/wrong changes, but also random stuff. Please understand that respecting the standard editing procedures means respecting other editors by not causing extra work for them. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 07:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

New articles[edit]

You can add new articles to WP:DYK.--Zoupan 04:00, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Slika[edit]

Da li je ova nova slika Djokovica koju si poslao (na ostavu) stvarno u javnom vlasnistvu ili ne? Da ne bude obrisana ako se utvrdi suprotno?--Soundwaweserb (talk) 20:13, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Trebala bi biti u javnom vlastnistvu, ali bi trebali potvrditi ako jeste ili nije 23 editor (talk) 20:20, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Reci mi, jesi li ti negde video da je u javnom vlasnistvu ili si po svojoj licnoj proceni stavio tu licencu?--Soundwaweserb (talk) 20:23, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Slika se može viditi na Flickru, što bi trebalo značiti da je u javnom vlasništvu. 23 editor (talk) 20:56, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Nazalost ne mora da znaci, ako pise pored slike free licence ili slicno onda ok, a ako ne onda ne moze na vikipediju. Cisto sumnjam da ce je ostaviti i verovatno ce je obrisati na ostavi, Novak je ziva osoba (hvala bogu) i za sve slike zivih osoba moraju biti detaljna objasnjenja tj. opis i validna licenca. Steta, ova slika je mozda i najbolja njegova, stavio sam je na sr.viki i nadam se da je nece obrisati. Hvala na izdvojenom vremenu, pozdrav.--Soundwaweserb (talk) 20:59, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

njegoš[edit]

Hey, hay! Tell me, what about this? You have removed half of the article... --WhiteWriterspeaks 22:34, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello, yes, I am planning to completely re-write and expand the article in the next two or three weeks. If you would like to contribute to the reconstruction of the article, you are welcome to. Regards 23 editor (talk) 02:12, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, i suppose that you are right. Please, take your time, and make it great, so we can be proud on your work on that article! :):) --WhiteWriterspeaks 18:38, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Petar II Petrović-Njegoš[edit]

Hello 23 editor, and thanks for the work you are doing on Petar II Petrović-Njegoš! I have a request for you - when you edit, can you include an edit summary? At first I thought that this edit might be vandalism as so much material was removed, and I only saw that it was constructive after carefully examining it. If you had included an informative edit summary, then I would have had a much easier time understanding what was going on. I think this is probably true for other editors who look at your edits as well - edit summaries are very useful for other people to understand what you're doing. Best regards — Mr. Stradivarius (have a chat) 00:57, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Alright, thank-you. Next time I will provide an edit summary.23 editor (talk) 01:17, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

I have warned the IP. If he continues we'll have to report him and maybe even semi-protect the article.--Zoupan 13:59, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
I reported him to AIV, hopefully he doesn't continue vandalizing.--Zoupan 13:14, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Serbia at the Olympics[edit]

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:Serbia at the Olympics has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Intoronto1125TalkContributions 04:18, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

FA[edit]

Please don't degrade the quality of a featured article by overlinking and similar entirely inexplicable changes. This isn't the first time I've warned you of this, yet you repeated the same behavior. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 19:31, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

At this point, I just can't be bothered to spend more time micromanaging you. Read the Talk archive of FA copyedits etc, and read the relevant MoS and other guidelines. Because it is you who are making changes, the onus is on you to explain why you think they are necessary. On any article, especially on a featured article. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 15:31, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Serbian Canadians[edit]

Hello, I noticed that you added quite a bit of sourced material to the Serbian Canadians article. User:Bobrayner is vandalizing the article by removing sourced content that you added before. He's an editor who seems to have personal or ideological issues with the Serbian Canadian director Boris Malagurski and the Serbian Canadian journalist John Bosnitch and I thought I'd bring this case to your attention, as you contributed to the article to a great extent. Regards, --UrbanVillager (talk) 17:01, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Response[edit]

Yes, i may help you, but i would inform you that user in question have several traveling circus buddies around, so, they can easily form their own view of edit interest, with overwhelming help in one sided POV. You may be lead to edit warring if try just to revert, so, my advice would be to ask for RfC, where we can bypass those several buddy editors, and get some neutral unrelated opinions. Inform me about articles in question, and i will join, if i can help somehow. --WhiteWriterspeaks 20:53, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll keep you posted. 23 editor (talk) 22:47, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

undid your revert[edit]

Hi, I undid your revert here. Please observe that the source is the BBC, not youtube, but as the emissions is also on youtube, I linked to it for easy verifiability. Thanky, -- Stratoprutser (talk) 09:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Ah, and I now took the liberty to revert your edit here as the ICTY reported that "On 30 April 1992, Serb forces took control of the municipality removing the non-Serbs, Muslims and Bosnian Croats from positions of responsibility" and our own VRS-page states that "The Army of Republika Srpska was founded on 12 May 1992". -- Stratoprutser (talk) 11:36, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

CE[edit]

Hi! Thanks for your edits on Zduhać. You are welcome to copy-edit the whole article, if you will. Only, I prefer format like this:
... srpski "Serbian" ...
rather than srpski ("Serbian"). I think it's less intrusive on the flow of the text. Cheers, Vladimir (talk) 17:52, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Persons born in Yugoslavia (esp. Arid Uka)[edit]

23 editor, hold your horses and calm down! You are still relatively new here so you need to familiarise yourself with the general practice. When a subject is born in or has lived in a certain country for a significant period, we provide the local form of the individual name if it varies from the name being used. So if you are born in Greece, you will have your name in Greek regardles sof whether you are not ethnic Greek, same with Russia, Bulgaria, China and the Arab world. There are many manifestations for how such names appear and Hashim Thaçi is given his Slavic variants here. It is knowing where to find it. If some should have Cyrillic/Latinic and do not, then they can be added accordingly. Ethnic Albanians from Kosovo fall into the same category as their counterparts in Macedonia, or Hungarians in Vojvodina - they will all have their name presented in the Slavic form as it represents biographical information. Croatia and Slovenia, even in Yugoslav times, are different. Being Latinic-only languages, one maintains his name even with non-Slavic origin spelling forms (eg. Gordon Schildenfeld and Danilo Türk), but when people are born in Serbia, Montenegro or Macedonia, we give the respective form regardless of ethnicity. Any questions, please ask but I ask you not to make arbitrary amendments - the full catalogue of ethnic Albanians from Kosovo/Macedonia contains Slavic forms where relevant and if you are unhappy with these things, you need to gain a consensus for removal of foreign names on the whole of Wikipedia. Regards. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 20:26, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes, indeed. Ante Pavelić - no Serbian cyrillic spelling and yet he did spend a significant amount of time in what was then Yugoslavia. Hashim Thaci - still no Cyrillic. Agim Çeku - no Cyrillic spelling. Mladen Lorković - sorry, no Cyrillic spelling. Rita Ora - born in Kosovo, no Cyrillic spelling. All of these people are non-Serbs. Do you notice a pattern? 23 editor (talk) 20:33, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Rita Ora spent a few weeks of her life in Yugoslav Serbia so it is not relevant to her, she has never even learnt the language so we don't need it there. See Agim Çeku, see Hashim Thaçi. Ante Pavelić was Croat born in Austria-Hungary, as was Mladen Lorković. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 20:38, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

In the Arid Uka article, it says specifically, and I quote, "Since 1991 Arid Uka has lived in Germany..." If he was born in 1990 and he's lived in Germany since '91, doesn't that mean that he only spent a year of his life living in Kosovo? See the hypocrisy in that? Then you say, "Rita Ora spent a few weeks of her life in Yugoslav Serbia so it is not relevant to her, she has never even learnt the language..." Do you have any reliable references that Uka knew Serbian, because that is what you seem to be implying by putting the Serbian Cyrillic spelling in the opening of his article. Are you following me or am I going to fast for you? 23 editor (talk) 20:43, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Then you say Pavelic was a Croat born in Austria-Hungary. I know that he was a Croat, so what? Are you trying to suggest that Uka was a Serb? 23 editor (talk) 20:46, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your effort, I was thinking of that too. We're agreed then. All the best! Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 21:08, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Regards, 23 editor (talk) 00:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Agim Çeku[edit]

Hi! Just noticed you added SC spelling of Agim Çeku as Agim Čeku and I wanted to run this by you to see if a further explanation is required there or not. Croatian language ortography actually requires preservation of the original spelling of foreign names, with an option not to use the cedilla in this particular case. An example of correct application of this rule is here and an example with the cedilla omitted here. Of course there are examples of Croatian newspapers spelling his name Čeku, but their orhographic (and grammatical) errors are omnipresent. I have no problem with the recent addition to the notes of the article as those speakers who would identify language they speak as SC would probably tend to spell his name phonetically, but I wonder if the note as-is might produce confusion that the name is spelled the same in Serbian and Croatian languages. Any thoughts?--Tomobe03 (talk) 17:37, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I am not a linguistics expert. I think that this is starting to become a question of whether Croatian and Serbian are seperate languages and I do not wish to become part of a debate as to whether they are. If you believe that in the Croatian language Čeku should be spelled as it is in Albanian (Çeku), then feel free to make that revision. 23 editor (talk) 17:42, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Notwithstanding of the two languages - one language debate, the article provides both spellings so info is in, and I don't particularly care for starting an edit war. Cheers!--Tomobe03 (talk) 18:01, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Barnstar[edit]

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I have noticed your edits and appreciated them greatly. Thank you for your contributions to the articles within scope of WikiProject Serbia. Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:59, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much! That's very kind of you, 23 editor (talk) 23:01, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for copyediting the Operation Storm article, your input really improved quality of article prose and definitely helped it reach GA. Tomobe03 (talk) 17:39, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! :) 23 editor (talk) 18:54, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Kosovo[edit]

I noticed your bold unexplained removal of the referenced content in article about Kosovo and restored it. It is better to propose and gain consensus for important changes at the talkpage first. Especially in articles like Kosovo which is article on probation, watched by almost thousand editors and with 1RR restriction. All the best. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 00:25, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes, you're right. I'll discuss it on the talk page. 23 editor (talk) 02:16, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── For the sake of thoroughness, I am posting a copy of the standard warning for Balkans-related articles here on your talk page. I am not taking sides here as to who is right and who is wrong; everyone needs to be on their best behaviour here, and edit warring is not an acceptable procedure in any case, even if you are convinced that you are right and others are wrong.

The Arbitration Committee has permitted administrators to impose discretionary sanctions (information on which is at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions) on any editor who is active on pages broadly related to the Balkans. Discretionary sanctions can be used against an editor who repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, satisfy any standard of behavior, or follow any normal editorial process. If you continue to misconduct yourself on pages relating to this topic, you may be placed under sanctions, which can include blocks, a revert limitation, or an article ban. The Committee's full decision can be read at the "Final decision" section of the decision page.

Please familiarise yourself with the information page at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions, with the appropriate sections of Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures, and with the case decision page before making any further edits to the pages in question. This notice is given by an uninvolved administrator and will be logged on the case decision, pursuant to the conditions of the Arbitration Committee's discretionary sanctions system.

— Richwales (no relation to Jimbo) 03:38, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Please take care about WP:BLP: This policy applies to any living person mentioned in a BLP, whether or not that person is the subject of the article, and to material about living persons in other articles and on other pages, including talk pages. I will AGF in case of your recent edit at Kosovo talkpage and assume that you did not know it, but please take very good care in future.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 07:45, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Will you please be so kind to carefully read more from the work of Paul Mojzes you proclaimed reliable, reconsider its reliability and provide feedback here. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:17, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Paulin Dvor massacre copyright problem[edit]

Please see Talk:Paulin Dvor massacre#copy&paste. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 22:42, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Siege of Dubrovnik[edit]

Hi! Why did you restore the redundant refs in the lead of the Siege of Dubrovnik?--Tomobe03 (talk) 20:27, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I guess that our edits intermingled because I must have saved mine after you had already made your revision. 23 editor (talk) 20:29, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

No worries. I'd like to revert that for now if you don't mind - I'd like to revise the lead per WP:LEAD and then I'd really appreciate if you could have a go at copyediting. How does that sound to you?--Tomobe03 (talk) 20:32, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Of course, I'd love to copy-edit the article once you've finished it up content-wise. Again, sorry for the mix-up. 23 editor (talk) 20:34, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

No sweat, that's what the talk page is for. I'll ping you as soon as the lead is in.--Tomobe03 (talk) 20:36, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi again! I'll be adding some images (maps, really) later on, but the prose is in. I'll paste {{inuse}} when I get around to the images to avoid edit conflicts. Would you please take a look at the prose when you have the time and copyedit what's needed. If something appears garbled or unclear, just ping me to clarify. Cheers!--Tomobe03 (talk) 21:45, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Uh, just a couple of minutes more, I'll just add a couple of navboxes and coords.--Tomobe03 (talk) 21:46, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Ok, done.--Tomobe03 (talk) 21:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Žepa[edit]

Funny, I had opened the Wikipedia page on Žepa a couple of hours ago and noticed the claim that the town's current, post-war population was still overwhelmingly Bosniak, even though the town lies in Republika Srpska and you'd expect it to have been ethnically cleansed during the war, and raised my eyebrows. I then first read up some things about Foča and its former mayor, before returning to the Žepa page to add a citation needed tag to the population claim - and it turned out you had just done exactly that! Considering that the whole page hadn't seen a substantive edit since December until your edits tonight, that was very coincidental.

I'm not from Bosnia at all, but I'm guessing that it's deeply unlikely that the town still has many Bosniaks, isn't it? No-itsme (talk) 01:29, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

I've done some checking on the internet and I couldn't find any evidence to suggest the current figures for the Bosniak population of the town. However, considering that the degree of ethnic cleansing in the enclave wasn't as great in terms of deaths when compared to other eastern Bosnian towns, the figure in the article might still be a possibility. I'll have to do more research to be sure though. 23 editor (talk) 01:57, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Albania[edit]

A WikiProject is a group of volunteers. That group is free to work on any articles it wants. It is free to tag any articles that the group chooses to support. If WikiProject Serbia wants to tag [[Moon]] and [[Cancer]], then that's just fine with us. The [[WP:PROJGUIDE]] explicitly says that "WikiProjects are allowed to have strange, arbitrary, or unpredictable scopes". When we say that they may tag any article that the group wants to support, we really do mean any article, not just articles that seem sensible or sensitive. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:25, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

AN/I - Bobrayner[edit]

Hi 23 editor, I have cited you in this latest case involving Bobrayner [6]. If you have experienced anything not included, please provide details. It is time the admins saw the full scale of this editor's disruption in the ARBMAC field. Evlekis (Евлекис) (argue) 04:59, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Invitation[edit]

G'day 23, just wanted to invite you to join us at Operation Bora. The more the merrier! Peacemaker67 (send... over) 06:50, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

I'd be delighted :) 23 editor (talk) 14:36, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

WP:EGG[edit]

I undid this edit because of reasons in this edit summary, but I thought I should mention another problem - when you link a single word or a trivial phrase, the readers don't expect to be taken to an article discussing a specific meaning. Rather, in that case, you shouldn't link the word "hatred" but the whole specific phrase "hatred of Serbs". --Joy [shallot] (talk) 21:20, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

And one more thing yet: you can perfect that citation by using {{sfn|Blamires|2006|p=155}} and adding |ref=harv in that {{cite book}} template below. That will make the link work automatically - as is, you'd have to manually create the anchor to fix it. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 21:25, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Your edits have been mentioned[edit]

Hello 23 editor. Please see WP:AE#Bobrayner. If you want to reply to what has been said about your editing, you can add a comment in your own section. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 13:24, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

hello[edit]

who replaced ivo andrić with marina abramović picture?? (Правичност (talk) 17:08, 4 May 2013 (UTC))

I don't know, I was just updating the page. I'd recommend that you take this up on the article talk page with users who regularly edit the article. Regards, 23 editor (talk) 17:14, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.[edit]

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Cuska massacre[edit]

G'day 23, what is the story with your reversion of this article to the one Evlekis and his IP socks/meat have been edit warring over? Both the HRW and PBS sources use the exact phrase "Serbian security forces". HRW does state that the Yugoslav Army was also involved, but it is clear the people involved were Serbs, some local paramilitaries, and at least one Yugoslav policeman. Could you please reread the sources and change the text to reflect what they say? Thanks, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 21:23, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Peacemaker! To be honest, I don't care much about Evlekis or his sockpuppets. I only care about the neutrality of these articles. At this point, reverts such as [7] and this are justified because a) it was FR Yugoslavia officially at the time, not Kosovo, not Serbia and nothing anything else b) it is sourced that the death toll could have been as high as 100 c) the Kosovo Albanians claimed that they were used as human shield, the assumption that this is a fact should not be in the first sentence and should most certainly not be taken as a fact without several sources that concretely say it is. As for [8], the Army of Serbia-Montenegro (SCG) existed from 2003 to 2006, so how does it make sense that they participated in a 1998 battle? Regards, 23 editor (talk) 11:50, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

May 2013[edit]

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Thanks, I'll try my best to work something out with the others. 23 editor (talk) 19:55, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hello! As I can see your knowledge of English is on professional level so I need your help. Can you help me with FK Partizan article to keep the GA status? Article's grammar and spelling needs to be fixed. Maybe some sentence should be deleted. Thanks in advance! (Nightwolf87 (talk) 12:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC))

Hi! I took a look at the article and did some light copy-editing on the first 1/4 of it. It looks fine so far. I'll do some further copy-editing tomorrow if I have the time. I also copy-edited Gibanica, and cleaned it up format-wise, expanded the lead and removed some problematically-sourced material after I noticed that it was at risk of failing its GAN because of this. 23 editor (talk) 00:42, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Battle of Cer[edit]

Hi! I noticed your GAN of the Battle of Cer and thought to give you a heads up here. The article is missing a critical piece of information - supply of the Plan III, the Austria-Hungarian plan for invasion of the east (Russia and Serbia) by Alfred Redl. Information is easily available through multiple sources via google books, for instance here. Good luck with the nom!--Tomobe03 (talk) 23:44, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll have a look. 23 editor (talk) 01:01, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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pitanje[edit]

Pozdrav, ne razumem zašto si uklonijo noviji i sasvim pouzdan izvor za Nemačku, te ga zamenio sa starijim i manjom brojkom.... Takođe ne razumem zašto si isto uradio sa brojkom za BiH. . . Za brojke naroda u BiH koristi se CIA izvor, koji ima najnovije estimacije ... taj izvor koristi se za Bošnjake, tako za Hrvate pa tako i za Srbe. A sada Srbi jedini imaju izvor star skoro 25 godina i dosta manju brojku nego što je u realnosti. (Правичност (talk) 18:14, 25 June 2013 (UTC))

Da, vratiću to skoro. Trenuto tražim izvore za neke druge zemlje u infoboksu, a kada sam napravio tu ismenu juče imao sam uticaj da izvori za Njemačku i BiH nisu bili pouzdani i precizni. 23 editor (talk) 18:25, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Budi siguran da je izvor za Nemačku pouzdan, em sa njima sarađuju ugledni sponzori, ipak je to konzulat za srpsku dijasporu u nemačkoj; a i CIA bi trebala biti precizna što se tiče BiH (Правичност (talk) 19:33, 25 June 2013 (UTC))

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Milorad Pavić (writer)[edit]

I think the page is beginning to read very well and I look forward to the further material you promise. I guess I should read his books, too. Cordially, Brian Bmcln1 (talk) 20:36, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Well, I'm glad you like it. :) I'm probably going to go for GA when it comes to the article. If you'd like to help, feel free to do so. Cheers, 23 editor (talk) 21:50, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

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Possible joint effort[edit]

Hi! I appreciate your edits very much and thought to ask you if you might be interested in tackling an article jointly. I have previously remarked in a talk elsewhere that I plan to edit some more the Croatian War of Independence article after major topics which act as "components" are sufficiently developed. So far I managed to develop about a dozen GAs in that respect, but I'd like to do something about the Breakup of Yugoslavia because that would allow a summary of the topic to be used in the CWoI as a background (probably with some more info on Log Revolution and 1990 elections). The Breakup article currently ranks as the 33rd most popular in WPHR scope and I assume it may safely assumed to be a core article of WPYU. I am aware it is a highly controversial topic but I believe it is worth the effort. Right now I have no specific plans regarding the course of action, but I thought to drop this note as a food for thought. Cheers.--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:20, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Sure, that's a great idea. When do we start? 23 editor (talk) 06:14, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Now that you mention collaborating on articles, how would you like to work with me to help bring Siege of Bihać and Siege of Mostar up to GA status after we're finished with Breakup of Yugoslavia? 23 editor (talk) 06:52, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Well, the two articles are definitely interesting and I wouldn't mind contributing. At this time both of the articles appear to have substantial shortcomings, but I'm confident there are ample RS on the topics, especially Bihać.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:35, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
How about we start with the breakup article next week (I need some time to find sources) and we'll take everything from there? 23 editor (talk) 16:06, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
I don't mind waiting a bit, I've started a couple of unrelated article drafts myself and would like to get those out of the way beforehand. And you're quite right, sources need be researched too.
After some consideration, it appears that the article mostly suffers from Wikipedia:Checklist#because related problems. The entire "Causes" section speaks of everything but causes and "Constitutional dispute and nationalism (1974–87)" is likewise useless. I mean, all those thing may as well be true but virtually everything discussed in there contributed marginally if at all to the breakup: In say 1988, there was no hint of Yugoslavia breaking up despite all those processes or history being in place. The "Rise of nationalism in SR Serbia" gives no indication how did Milošević's stance change so abruptly, which was likely a defining moment for later events. The "Final political crisis (1990–1992)" title alone gives an impression that there was another one before that relevant to the breakup, and the entire 1990 and onwards prose is quite tangled up starting off with the "Independence of Slovenia and Croatia" subsection before "War in Croatia" (which began in earnest before the independence), to arrive at "International recognition of the breakup" (i.e. discuss 1991-1992 events) after a section covering a period extending to 2001.
I think the present layout of the article makes a futile effort to explain causes of the breakup in the first two sections through events that did not necessarily contribute to the breakup (see: Checklist#because above) and then is hopelessly trying to present the information geographically compartmentalized instead of resorting to a chronological and more easily read format. Of course, each major development in the chronology may be presented in a subsection.
Then again - we'll see what the sources offer on the above issues, but these are just my impressions.--Tomobe03 (talk) 09:33, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

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Collaboration[edit]

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Page #?[edit]

Greetings 23, please could you add the page number to the cite for this edit? I can't find it in my copy of the book. Thank you! Writegeist (talk) 20:48, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Oops, found it, p. 83. Writegeist (talk) 20:53, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hello. just wondering if you are still planning to bring up that source of 1.8 million Serbs in USA amd input the refferenced higher estimated figure into the infobox of "Serbs" article? Правичност (talk)

Yup, thanks for reminding me. 23 editor (talk) 16:33, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

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Removal[edit]

I meant this athlete. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:34, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

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Minority rights violations in Kosovo[edit]

A while ago, in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Persecution of Serbs and other non-Albanians in Kosovo, you said the subject was sourced, but didn't address the issue of improper synthesis. Would you be interested in working on that subject in a less contentious scope? I noticed we don't have a human rights in Kosovo article yet, and a lot of that content sounds like it might fit there. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 10:52, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello! I'm actually quite busy with several WW2-related articles over at Operation Bora. However, if I have the time I wouldn't mind contributing something to Human Rights in Kosovo provided that other editors are involved. Regards, 23 editor (talk) 11:40, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

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GAN for Russian Corps[edit]

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Hi! I posted the book details at the MILHIST talkpage as you requested, but also thought to let you know that the timeline presented there is quite complete for 1941-1944, except for the 5th regiment. Of course I did not copy all information presented in the book, and disregarded those events that appear quite minor relative to those posted. The timelines in the book also contain quite detailed info on changes of commanders of battalions and smaller units (down to companies, platoons etc) which seem to have occurred regularly. I took care not to skip anything resembling remotely relevant factoid and noted the page numbers where info is found just in case you want to use some of the material. In cases where larger page ranges are given (more than two pages long), I can break that down for you if you like me to. Also, should you fail to locate the book online and if you trust my Russian sufficiently, I can post the rest of the timeline here. My take on the book is that the authors of various sections and the editor (Vertepov) seem to be too close to the subject matter, judging from use of terms like "bandits" or "reds" for Partisans, to be used for any analysis or value judgements, but the timeline established by the book seems plausible.--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:12, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Everything looks great. If I have any further questions or requests I'll make sure to notify you. Thanks for the help. 23 editor (talk) 22:17, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

No problem, will help as much as I can. Just note that the timeline at the MILHIST talkpage lacks the latter part of 1944 for the 5th regiment and there's no info on 1945 - had to attend to a RL thing before I finished it.--Tomobe03 (talk) 22:20, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Re Vertepov book, its worldcat entry is here. Cheers!--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:19, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

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Doctor Mladen[edit]

Hi! It would be good if we could add facts from English-language sources specifically mentioning Stojanović. As far as I searched GBooks, Hoare's Genocide and Resistance in Hitler's Bosnia seems to be the best in that respect. Just mentioning this in case you can help about that. In any case, thanks for your edits on the article, and keep up the good job :) I intend to expand it further, and possibly we could bring it to GA or FA status... Vladimir (talk) 16:40, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it would be great if we could work together to improve its quality. :) I'll see what I can dig up from Hoare's book. 23 editor (talk) 16:42, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
Sorry I wasn't clear. I didn't mean picking shreds of information from the snippet view. That's inadequate and should be avoided. I actually counted on the possibility that you might have access to the whole book. I used google books search just to establish the fact that Stojanović is mentioned in eight pages of Hoare's book. Nothing more. Vladimir (talk) 12:58, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
As much as I'd love to help, I too only have access to the snippet view presented on Google books. Perhaps you can ask PRODUCER to help out with the article because he appears to have complete access to several of Hoare's works judging from my collaboration with him on several other World War II-related articles. 23 editor (talk) 14:41, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

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Duijzings[edit]

Thanks for adding the Duijzings info to the Voćin massacre article - it would not be complete otherwise. I had the book right here, having used it in the Operation Swath-10 and it just slipped from my mind. Cheers--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:06, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Happy to help. :) 23 editor (talk) 20:38, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

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Bizarre, I thought I wouldn't have to deal with that user again. Anyway, I won't waste my time. Enjoy the week! 23 editor (talk) 20:24, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

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You have source A saying this, and source B saying that. You cant simply choose to promote one of them and ignore the other. There is no clear unanimous scholarly consensus as to the ethnic roots of the this man. In light of this, the most sensible thing to do is to avoid "ethnic" labels altogether, otherwise disagreeing editors will be obligated to introduce their sources as well with a consequent mockery of the article. It's really a hornet's nest that one shouldn't stir up. On a personal level, I understand that any other scenario than Sokolovic being Serb is inconceivable to you, but pleaser keep in mind that this is not generally agreed upon. Thanks Praxis Icosahedron ϡ (TALK) 21:27, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

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The Holocaust in Albania[edit]


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Well done and thanks for a great collaboration![edit]

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Thank you![edit]

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mass edits to World War II persecution of Serbs in March 2012[edit]

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Petar II Petrović-Njegoš[edit]


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Merry Christmas[edit]

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You have done marvelous work on Nadežda Petrović article, really solid. Are you able to do something like that with Paja Jovanović? As you can see, the article is pretty much stuck. If you need help for something to do with that article, please contact me. Mm.srb (talk) 07:18, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. 23 editor (talk) 23:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

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Editor interaction[edit]

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After your comment of the draft I was writing about Anti-Serb pogrom in Sarajevo it was easy to conclude that you follow my edits. I analyzed interaction between you and me and confirmed my conclusion. Sometimes your edits are constructive, i.e. when you copy edit my text, but most often you repeatedly confront my work or position (or inhibit it like in case of your editing at recent RM on toponym at Kosovo). I know that you are free to edit whatever article you want but your recent comment at Third League of Prizren which you never edited before is another example of your editing pattern regarding me, and I just wanted to let you know that I see it as disruption to my enjoyment of editing. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:22, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way. On the contrary, I appreciate your contributions within the scope of WikiProject Serbia very much and would hate to disrupt your enjoyment of editing. However, Wikipedia is a place for collaboration and discussion. Everyone's different and views are bound to conflict. With all due respect, if you disagree with my position on something then that is your problem not mine. If I don't agree with you on a certain issue, I really fail to see why that is my fault. I was merely stating my opinion on a topic and my opinion remains the same. Have a nice day. 23 editor (talk) 18:31, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Straw man fallacy. I did not complain because you disagree with my position. I explained that you follow my edits to repeatedly inhibit or confront my work or position. You are of course free to continue with this kind of activity if you want to further disrupt my enjoyment of editing. The choice is yours. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:33, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

List of tallest structures in Kosovo[edit]

Hi,
You recently nominated List of tallest buildings in Kosovo for deletion. It has been redirected to List of tallest structures in Kosovo, but that has the same main problems. Would you consider an AfD of that too? bobrayner (talk) 19:16, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

I wasn't planning on it. What are your thoughts on the subject? 23 editor (talk) 19:20, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Oh, no worries. I simply dislike unsourced lists, which tend to have a variety of problems, and some of our unsourced lists of tall buildings are particularly bad. If you won't AfD it, I might. bobrayner (talk) 19:50, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Official Names[edit]

We don't use official names per WP:CommonName. IJA (talk) 23:32, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

No, I'm afraid that's directly contradicted by Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names). Isn't that ironic? Judging from this, you seem to claim that both Srbica and Skenderaj are official names of the one city . According to your logic (and your interpretation of WP:CommonName), this article (Srbica/Skenderaj) should have no name. Is that right? 23 editor (talk) 23:40, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
Now you're being ridiculous. I've never said that we can't use a name which has official status, I'm saying that just because it has official status doesn't mean it trumps a name without official status. IJA (talk) 13:49, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Regarding names in Kosovo[edit]

Hi 23 editor, sorry to come so late but I wasn´t much around for the weekend.

Regarding the agreement I had, it was about using the Serbian (Serbo-Croatian) names for the Yugoslav period (including FR Yugoslavia) and using Albanian names after 1999. We used 1999 as a cut point as that year the NATO war against FR Yugoslavia happend and it was after that that Albanian took advantage over Serbian as administrative language. In practice, that agreement meant to write club names, exemple FK Priština for the period until 1999 and FC Prishtina for 1999 on. It ended not appliying for birthplaces because article titles were in Serbo-Croatian.

Now, I wasn´t much active in those move requests because personally I feel it as a lost battle. It is a fact that Albanian is now overwelmingly used in Kosovo. I see 1999 as a cut point has not been much adressed, however, personally, I do see it as kind of fair. I would support using Serbian names for places, clubs, companies, etc. for the period 1913-1999 and Albanian for 1999 on. Now, obviously, we have the Northern Kosovo now, which would be an exception in keeping evertything in Serbian till today.

So, I am not sure what everyone else thinks about this. This agreement of mine with Albanian editors was reached exclusivelly around football, but sounded fair at the time, and we both applied it without problems. FkpCascais (talk) 18:31, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Prince Marko[edit]


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DYK for Surdulica massacre[edit]

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Bosnian War[edit]

Sir or Madam Editor 23. You seem to deliberately overlook the fact keeps coming back to the beginning of the conflict in the 6th April, although the documents and the testimony of all three warring nations say the conflict began 1 March the center of Sarajevo. From 1 March, the Serbs began to lift barricades, and then began a series of inter-ethnic conflict 3 March 5 March 23 March. This was followed by a military invasion in the HV 26 March landing across the river Sava in the village Sijekovac and massacred Serbian population, killing 46 civilians. 1 April was followed by Serbian military invasion of the town of Bijeljina and massacred Bosnians killing around 100 civilians. Then the JNA bombed Sarajevo 3 and 4 April. What kind of 6 April talking about? What to say to the victims before 6 April? Are they fell in the well-being? Army of the Republic of Croatia has twice intervened during the war. The first phase was from 26 March, 1992. up to 18 March 1994. Period of 26 March to 19 June in 1992. was Serbo-Croat conflict, and the 19 June in 1992. up to 18 March 1994. Croatian-Bosniak conflict, which ended with the Washington Treaty. The second phase of the Croatian military intervention was Operation Storm, Operation Corridor, Operation Mistral, Operation Una and at the end of the Dayton Agreement. Serbian military intervention began on 1 April in 1992. When Jovica Stanisic, the former head of the State Security Service of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Serbia ordered the attack across the Drina River in the town of Bijeljina where after the Serbian paramilitary group led by Zeljko Raznatovic Arkan, who have committed massacres against Bosniak civilians, killing 100 people. The same day, the Bosniaks captured the town of Zvornik, but it is already evening JNA began a battle that lasted until 9 April. Thus it is up to 6 April, there were about 500 victims killed and about 1,000 injured. All this happened before 6 April. Do not tell me these victims perished in prosperity? In Bosnia was a civil war. Military intervention Croatia and Serbian Army was as a protection of their compatriots and possible territorial expansion. The first phase of the Serbian military intervention (with which is directly commanded Belgrade) was as JNA until 20 May, when the Army withdrew from Bosnia after that ceased to exist. After 20 May Serbian JNA withdrew, but continued military support of Bosnian Serbs making her the international community 30 May introduced a general sanctions. Serbia withdrew from the war, 4 August in 1994. When the leaders of the Republika Srpska refused to accept the Contact Group plan. Serbia has imposed sanctions on the Bosnian Serbs and closed the border on the Drina. Serbia formally withdrew from the war. Greetings. :-)--Baba Mica (talk) 19:16, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

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Demographics of Ferizaj etc[edit]

Hi, I see you deleted Demographics of Ferizaj and redirected to Ferizaj. I've been tutoring these students with their first Wikipedia articles. Any strong reason to remove their hard work? I hope for some understanding to make Wikipedia more welcoming for beginners. --Arianit (talk) 14:45, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Economy of Gjakova etc[edit]

Greetings, I see that you have so far marked for deletion several articles or redirected them (Economy of Gjakova, Architecture of Peja, School for Visually impaired in Peja, Women of Krusha e Madhe, Notable people of Gjilan, Demographics of Ferizaj). I think that the deleting or redirecting of these articles does no service to Wikipedia because they foster future expanding upon the topics. For example the specific article about Economy of Gjakova has been redirected to the article about the city of Gjakova. Now the article about Gjakova will become too long, and it will eventually have to be broken down into smaller articles, such as the Economy of Gjakova. Another example is your copy pasting the whole article upon the Architecture of Peja unto Architecture of Kosovo, while deleting the former article completely, and disrupting the structure of the latter article. Please stop with this type counter-productive editing, which is not conducive with the nature of Wikipedia and dissemination of objective knowledge and data. Consider this your second warning, after that done by Arianit

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Re: Adnan Hz 97[edit]

Sadly it's true that I'm usually the only one to police this topic area before it goes through general complaint channels, but I don't actually watch arbitrary user pages. I've issued a final warning to that user. In the future, esp. if this kind of a problem persists for more than a few hours, please feel free to notify WP:ANI, because any admin can intervene, it doesn't have to wait for me. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 08:49, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much. 23 editor (talk) 12:35, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your extensive effort, commitment to reliable sources, and invaluable contributions to WP:BORA in the Dimitrije Ljotić, Sekula Drljević, Husein Miljković, Rafael Boban, and Viktor Gutić articles. PRODUCER (TALK) 08:50, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much, PRODUCER! 23 editor (talk) 14:39, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

The war began in SR Bosnia and Herzegovina, and continued in the independent BiH[edit]

Mr. "23 editor". The war in Bosnia is not started on 6 April and I do not know how many times should I repeat it, and more importantly, the war did not began in April. How can war began on April 6 and the number of victims of war, has about 500 people on three sides by before 6 April. Once again I will reiterate that the war in Bosnia began before her international recognition and in the SFRY. The first conflict in Bosnia and Herzegovina started on an ethnic basis on 1 March (the second day of the referendum) the conflict between Serbs and Bosniaks in the center of Sarajevo. Then, the clashes spread throughout the city, and soon across the country. After Baščaršije has been a domino effect and the large-scale conflict. Victims were more every day. Serious conflict with the victims and many were injured on March 3, March 5, March 23, March 25. On March 26, the Republic of Croatia directly intervened in the conflict. Croatian regular army began attack on the village Sijekovac. During the battle that killed 46 civilians. April 1 is Serbia (the rest of Yugoslavia) began military operations to quell the revolt, to disarm militant Bosnian community, to establish control over the Drina, take control of cities in eastern Bosnia, thus preventing complete secession. On the same day, the military forces of Serbia (Yugoslavia) have caught a military attack on Bijeljina, which is the largest city in eastern Bosnia. The attack was carried out with the assistance of the Serbian paramilitary unit under the control of Arkan. Arkan's military unit occupied the town without resistance, and then began the slaughter of the Bosnian population, killing more than 50 Bosniak civilians. On the same day, the JNA forces began a military operation to stop further escalation of the conflict in eastern Bosnia and the establishment of full control over it. While the Serbian military forces (JNA) was fighting in eastern Bosnia, governments in BiH declared independence on 5 April, just one day after the 6th of April, admitting the United States and the entire international community. So I put the start date of the war by March 1 (day of the Serbian-Bosnian ethnic conflict). Croatian regular army attack on the village Sijekovac the day of the Serb-Croat conflict in BiH at all levels. Croatian-Bosnian conflict began on June 19 in an independent Bosnia. So I put the start date of the war by March 1 (day of the Serbian-Bosnian ethnic conflict). Croatian regular army attack on the village Sijekovac the day of the Serb-Croat conflict in BiH at all levels. Croatian-Bosnian conflict began on June 19 in an independent Bosnia.--Baba Mica (talk) 20:04, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

And you have been told that the sources already present say otherwise. Urbandictionary.com is not a reliable source. 23 editor (talk) 20:44, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

All right. I'll find reliable sources to confirm the fact that the military operations began on March 1 in SR Bosnia and Herzegovina, and continued on April 6 in an independent Bosnia and Herzegovina.--Baba Mica (talk) 13:31, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Jews and Communism re-nominated for deletion[edit]

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WikiProjectBannerShell placement[edit]

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Republika Srpska[edit]

Please, read the Constitution of the Republika Srpska, and then you can change something:

Article 7:
Paragraph 1 of Article 7 has been replaced by Amendment LXXI, reading as follows:

The official languages in Republika Srpska are: the language of the Serb people, the language of the Bosniac people and the language of the Croat people. The official scripts are the Cyrillic script and the Latinic script.

In regions populated by other national communities, their languages and scripts shall also be in official use, as determined by law.

p.s. because there is no consensus whether this is the same language or three different languages, and no consensus about name of language(s). CarRadovan (talk) 10:32, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

61.135.177.185[edit]

There is no way this is a new user the IP started editing today and already behavior includes: Warning a user here [15], edit warring at Bosnian War and Template:Survivor (U.S. TV series) contestants. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:24, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm away from my usual place of editing at the moment. Will return to main account shortly. See Wikipedia:Newbies aren't always clueless. 61.135.177.185 (talk) 21:28, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
I am aware of that, it is kind of hard though when an IP comes in and the majority of edits are edit warring. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:30, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

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