User talk:70.194.88.11

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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--70.194.88.11 (talk) 23:51, 18 January 2013 (UTC)== Talk:Bahá'u'lláh#Category:Bodhisattvas ==

Hi, I have started a discussion at Talk:Bahá'u'lláh#Category:Bodhisattvas where you can present arguments to support your addition of the category. ~Adjwilley (talk) 23:47, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Maitreya claimants are Bodhisattva which seems to have caused an edit war[edit]

Yes, recently I was helping categorize urn categorized Bodhisattas or rather uncategorized Bodhisattva claimants in the Bodhisattvas category. This has needlessly lead to an edit war. For example, if a person claims to be Akashagarbha, Avalokiteshvara, Kshitigarbha, Mahastamaprapta, Maitreya, Manjushri, Samatabahadra, Sarvanivaraavishkambin, or any other bodhisattva, that's a bodhisattva claim, even if it isn't explicitly specified as such on that particular page. One of the three edit warriors claim there was no such claim on the page, to Bodhisattvahood, but as explained earlier there is a claim to Maitreyahood on the page which is the same thing actually. I'll copy and past this to the talk pages of all three edit warriors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.194.88.11 (talkcontribs)

I do not believe each and every person who claims (or others say claim) to be a Bodhisattvas should be in the category. Most people do not accept Baha'u'llah to be a Bodhisattvas, even though some do, and thus it would be undue weight to add him to the category. Regards, -- Jeff3000 (talk) 23:54, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

That would be a proper mechanism for people who claimed to be a bodhisattva in their own right, but not for people who claimed to be one of the specifically enumerated bodhisattvas. For, example Avalokiteshvara or Guan Yin, Maitreya, Manjushri, and others bodhisattvas, have people who claim to be them, while the people who believe such people in particular to be bodhisattvas is much smaller than people who believe in the bodhisattvas they claim to be by comparison, such people have been included in the category in the past without controversy.70.194.88.11 (talk) 00:04, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

I should give particular examples Avalokiteshvara or Guan Yin or Kannon:Karmapa Lama, Dalai Lama, Mazu, Maitreya:Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, Budai, Adi Da, Guan Yu or Sangharama, Gung Ye, L. Ron Hubbard, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Lu Zhongyi, Claude Vorilhon or Raël, Wu Zeitan, Manjushri:Nurhaci,

As you can see above if you compared any claimant to the undisputed bodhisattva, they form a small percentage of belief by comparison. If you asked anyone if they believed any given claimant was a bodhisattva without reference which bodhisattva they were versus adding a reference to a known bodhisattva, you'd probably get a higher yes rate on the differently worded question. --70.194.88.11 (talk) 00:19, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Your recent edits[edit]

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Thanks, also I had to change the insert tab to wiki markup to have it below this window. Now, I can use the symbols above. --70.194.88.11 (talk) 00:29, 19 January 2013 (UTC)